The Car Thread.

[Omega]

Okay, I know GT40_Gearhead suggested the idea, and we're talking about cars in that one dude's Roush Mustang thread, so let's all take it here.

To start... uh.... I like the RB20DETT Engine (2.6 Liter, V6, Twin Turbo Engine, found in the R33 and R34 Nissan Skyline GT-R's, the Skyline 4-doors got the RB25DE, the N/A 2.5l V6). It's sexy. Kind of like the SR20DET (2.0l, v6 I think, single Turbo engine found in JDM Silvias and USDM Sentra SE-R's) or VQ20DE (2.0l, v6, N/A Engine that Nissan uses in 8 of their models including the 350z and G35, which is also known as the Skyline 350GT).


Yeah, I'm a Nissan geek.

[Crimson Sky]

I'll take a Zonda Pagani, thanks

[Airbozo]

Hmmm. let me see, I prefer the lines and looks of the older cars.

My all time favorite car that I have owned was my 69 Chevelle Malibu. Transplanted a 350 in it with a rockcrusher transmission and a MR Gasket inline shifter. That was a real sleeper car... Destroyed in a hail storm, insurance would not cover it.

My second all time favorite car is really a truck, but today it would be considered an SUV (BLECH!). It is a 1975 Toyota landcruiser FJ40. That thing will climb a tree or push it over if it is in the way. Still own this truck and it is going through a minor frame off restoration. Mechanically it is in great condition, it just _looks_ like a '75. No rust whatsoever on the tub or top, minor rust on the doors, but nothing a little sand paper won't take care of. Still trying to decide if I am going to drop a 350 4 bolt into it...

Third favorite was my 1975 Rover 3500S. British car, american engine, would top out at 140mph, but _needed_ 100 octane to run right. I could get that gas in colorado at the airport, but california has laws against that so I had to add 2 cans of octane boost to every fill up. (an extra $5 or more a tank).

Not really in my top 5, but I now drive a '02 mustang gt. I like the car but it sucks cornering and the leather seats make sure you slide all over the place when taking the twisties (as I do every day as part of my commute). I only bought the mustang because I got such a great deal on it.

I am waiting to see how the new camaro's drive to see if I want one but I do like the looks.

[ChadB]

Okay, I know GT40_Gearhead suggested the idea, and we're talking about cars in that one dude's Roush Mustang thread, so let's all take it here.

To start... uh.... I like the RB20DETT Engine (2.6 Liter, V6, Twin Turbo Engine, found in the R33 and R34 Nissan Skyline GT-R's, the Skyline 4-doors got the RB25DE, the N/A 2.5l V6). It's sexy. Kind of like the SR20DET (2.0l, v6 I think, single Turbo engine found in JDM Silvias and USDM Sentra SE-R's) or VQ20DE (2.0l, v6, N/A Engine that Nissan uses in 8 of their models including the 350z and G35, which is also known as the Skyline 350GT).


Yeah, I'm a Nissan geek.

Err don't you mean RB26DETT?? thats the 2.6L found in the GTR's. I prefer the Nissan 180sx with the SR20DET....very nice car/engine, looks mad and is cheap compared to the GTR's lol.

[Omega]

Err don't you mean RB26DETT?? thats the 2.6L found in the GTR's. I prefer the Nissan 180sx with the SR20DET....very nice car/engine, looks mad and is cheap compared to the GTR's lol.

Er yeah, meant to type RB26DETT. I'm just too used to having 2 next to 0 haha.

Well, which 180sx are you thinking of? The USDM 240sx RPS13 (That's the fastback, pop-up headlights, coupe)? That's actually the car I want as my first, with either the KA24 or SR20. The RPS13 styling is really appealing to me, especially with some clean bodywork.

Or even better; an RPS13 with the RB26DETT... Crazy ass amounts of power, transverse drivetrain, oh, and bragging rights. Load those turbos up with 15psi (If I'm not mistaken, the RB26 is quite robust and can handle oodles of boost on stock internals) and let 'er rip. You'll be scaring the **** out of Civic drivers in no time.

Yeah, I'm thinking for my first car I want that RPS13, get it in a Metallic Blue Flake, and if it has the KA20, then turbocharge it, if it has the SR20 then leave it however it is (Either N/A or Turbo'd), and get some lighter, larger rims (Like 5Zigen FN-01RC's or something, I think that's right, in bronze) and some nice Nitto R-Compound tires and have some fun on the local mountain roads... ahh.... togue!


Another car I wouldn't mind would be the mid-80's toyota corolla (GT-S, not SR5 or whatever the ****ty one is), the one that in Japan was known as the Treuno AE86 or just the Hachi Roku (Japanese for "Eight Six"). If I got one of those I might try to hunt down an AE101 engine or maybe the Honda F20C (S2000 Engine).


:banana:

EDIT:

Oh yeah, but keep in mind that the price margin between the R33/R34 Skyline GT-R and the RPS13 is still justified. One of the cars is a marvel to automotive engineering and technology, with at least a 30-year pedigree and tons of racing titles under it's name, while the other is a grocery cart with potential.

[Mitternacht]

1989 Chevrolet Corvette

5.7 L-98 350 cu.in. engine
Aluminum heads
K&N
Accel Ignition
Hedman LT Headers
2.5" Dynomax exhaust Cats eliminated
Smog Pump eliminated
ZR-1 Wheels
Kumho Ecsta Supra 712's 17*9.5
Line-Lock

Result:
13.75 @ 99.98
13.83 @ 101.15

13.75 Quarter-Mile Pass (http://video.ls1tech.com/video/7f2df6bf-7ed3-4b08-820d-98150120d66f.htm)

[Aero]

Favorite Car:

1969 Firebird- mint, the way it came from the lot.

Perfect Car:

1996 Dodge Ram 2500 w/cummins, twin turbo, manual, and 6 inch exhasut


I like to keep these things simple 8)

[Mitternacht]

Favorite Car:

1969 Firebird- mint, the way it came from the lot.

Perfect Car:

1996 Dodge Ram 2500 w/cummins, twin turbo, manual, and 6 inch exhasut


I like to keep these things simple 8)

By the way, a little tip. 6" exhaust is too big for a Cummins; 5" is about the max you should go.

And twin turbos? No diesel comes with twin turbos. Unless you like to dream big and build one with twin turbos on it.

[Omega]

1989 Chevrolet Corvette

5.7 L-98 350 cu.in. engine
Aluminum heads
K&N
Accel Ignition
Hedman LT Headers
2.5" Dynomax exhaust Cats eliminated
Smog Pump eliminated
ZR-1 Wheels
Kumho Ecsta Supra 712's 17*9.5
Line-Lock

Result:
13.75 @ 99.98
13.83 @ 101.15

13.75 Quarter-Mile Pass (http://video.ls1tech.com/video/7f2df6bf-7ed3-4b08-820d-98150120d66f.htm)


Oh man, 13.75 @ 99.98, eh? Not bad, for what would appear to be some simple work. Any traction problems?


Reminds me -- There's a drag supra in Arizona that lays down a whopping 973whp and 89*lb/ft onto the table, and pulls a quarter mile within the 8's. =D


Aero: I saw a Dodge truck that had a sticker "I'd rather be cummin' than strokin'" =D


I love how Civics are so weak that they couldn't torque down their lug nuts if they tried, lol.

EDIT:


And twin turbos? No diesel comes with twin turbos. Unless you like to dream big and build one with twin turbos on it.

Uh, I'm pretty sure it's been done. There's been some crazy **** in the automotive world -- like Twin Charging (That's a Turbocharger/Supercharger combination, usually a hair dryer paired with an Eaton Roots type Supercharger), Rotary engines (Which were originally in aircraft!) and so forth, in fact, we're seeing the dawn of shopping carts with 6-speeds and affordable sportscars with 7-speeds pretty soon -- I know some higher end cars like Ferarri already have 7-speeds.

[Mitternacht]

Oh man, 13.75 @ 99.98, eh? Not bad, for what would appear to be some simple work. Any traction problems?


Reminds me -- There's a drag supra in Arizona that lays down a whopping 973whp and 89*lb/ft onto the table, and pulls a quarter mile within the 8's. =D


Aero: I saw a Dodge truck that had a sticker "I'd rather be cummin' than strokin'" =D


I love how Civics are so weak that they couldn't torque down their lug nuts if they tried, lol.

But watch out. Some Civics push enough boost to air up their own tires.

Actually, my 60' times are under 2 seconds. It launches perfectly on street tires.
2200 stall torque converter, I forgot to add.

[Omega]

But watch out. Some Civics push enough boost to air up their own tires.

Actually, my 60' times are under 2 seconds. It launches perfectly on street tires.
2200 stall torque converter, I forgot to add.

Well, While I normally have no respect for Automatics, 60' in 2 seconds with no traction problems is quite respectable.

Heh. I love how Honda has the Civic, which sucks, then the S2k, which has been pushed as far as 2 Bars of boost (that's 29.4psi) and can achieve insane numbers. Of course, there's the difference between engines like the B20 and engines like the F20C...

[Mitternacht]

Well, While I normally have no respect for Automatics, 60' in 2 seconds with no traction problems is quite respectable.

An automatic transmission is the best transmission to have in drag racing. You don't have to slip the clutch, you don't have to worry about the power delay between shifting, etc. I would prefer a 6-speed, but I'm glad its an auto.

[Omega]

An automatic transmission is the best transmission to have in drag racing. You don't have to slip the clutch, you don't have to worry about the power delay between shifting, etc. I would prefer a 6-speed, but I'm glad its an auto.

Well, while there is no delay of power, Automatics get less power to the ground, they're more expensive to buy, and more expensive to maintain. For street driving, they're impractical, but for drag, it makes sense. Besides, if you're dragging (legally, of course), you can probably afford to repair the transmission when the time comes, anyways.

To be honest, I'm more of an Autocross/Drift person. Gymkhana is cool too, it's a hybrid of the two. Very technical and precise driving. People that are good at Gymkhana can do some really technical and precise things, but I'd have to find a video to elaborate. It's pretty nifty.

I figure I'll probably have cars that don't have thousands of dollars spent on drivetrain, but rather suspension and so forth, maybe with simple drivetrain modifications like an LSD, Perhaps a turbo w/FMIC, an improved intake/fuel system, and exhaust (probably cat-back, 3.5in downpipe, stainless all around, a true dual-tip exhaust if I can pull it off).

After I'd get those power-making mods, I'd probably go all out on the suspension, new springs, struts, tie rods, control arms, anti-roll bars, strut tower bars (in the front of the car _and_ the back, I see way too many cars with strut bars in only the front, it's annoying, personally), CV Joints if I had to, Lighter wheels, and R-Compound tires.

Then, of course, upgrade the brake system, add in some safety features, and have fun.

[GT40_GearHead]

damn automatics man, you lose wheel horsepower and have no control over it,
if you wanna drag you can use as 3-speed gearbox or even 2-speed


PS: mmhhmmmmm the smell of a car threads in the morning..... mhmmm....(spins the diff on the desk)

[Cool1Net6]

...To be honest, I'm more of an Autocross/Drift person...
I'm sorta similar. I mostly like Autocross and Rallycross. The craziness of Rallying and the "if it still rolls, your still racing" attitude excites me, plus my car is more capable at autocross than drag or drift or pretty much any other motorsport.

-Cool-

[Slug Toy]

lets see... my favourite cars are the porshe carrera gt, the jaguar xj220, the porsche 917, the cadillac cien, the cadillac xlr, the 2005 corvette (because ive got one), and the electric roadster from tesla motors.

my idea of a perfect car would be the one that im designing and hoping to build one day. i really cant tell you a heck of a lot about it though because its always changing and evolving so to speak. the only things that stay constant are: 4 inch ride height, dual rear mounted electric motors (im estimating 200 horsepower or higher), super stiff suspension to deal with the minimum ground clearance, 3 seater design, aluminum space frame chassis and fibreglass or carbon fibre body, wide long and low for good stability, 4 wheel steering through a purely hydraulic mechanism that im working on, a hydraulic/magnetic braking system that im working on too (no ABS either because i want to be able to lock things up to start good spins and slides), and last but not least... a killer airbrush paint job done by myself as well. ya, it may seem like ive got the whole thing figured out from that list... but keep in mind theres an infinite number of dimensions and shapes that can be used... and i havent really drawn something up that looks perfect yet... even after probably hundreds of tries.

[AJ@PR]

I guess I have to chime in :::
Dream Car::: 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle 454 SS with the LS6 option... convertible, with 4 on the floor.

Black, and a red interior. Thank you very much.

Supercar::: Grab a Mosler, ask Lingenfelter for a twin turbo engine (the latest one), pop it in there, and... well, go to Germany to beat anything and everything on the road. Yum!

Comments:::
Omega,
You're a Nissan freak? Wierd...
BTW: Question: The Skyline now uses a V6????
I thought it was a inline 6...
Dumbasses... well, at least Nissan has the most refined/engineered V6 on the market.

Crimson Sky,
Pagani Zonda... nice.
There's the "S" version now, if I'm not mistaken.
Gotta love that Mercedes heart.
Although, for some reason, Pagani is still using the old Mercedes V12, not the new one.
Not that one should call into question over 600 horsies...
Nice car. The convertible/targa one looks absurd.

Airbozo,
YES!!! Drop the 4bolt 350!
Go for it! Go go go!!!
And we would looove pics!

I'm also waiting to see the new Camaro.
I'm sure the Ol General is going to produce something amazing.
Punch Ford and the Mustang in the face. (sorry guys, I'm a Chevy/GM man)
They have that kick-ass new small block ready... and that LS7!
427... 500 natural horses... V8... push-rods...
Give me a stick-shift, and I'll never stop.

Ha!!

ChadB and Omega,

don't you mean RB26DETT??

type RB26DETT... USDM 240sx RPS13 .... 5Zigen FN-01RC's...
freaks... (( HAHA! ))

Hey Mitternacht,
YOUR car is my kind of car!!!
Nice!!!
Hey, question... is that L-98, the one that has the reverse-direction cooling system?

13 and a quarter, eh?
Wow... she must really rock.
You call it a she, or a he?
Just curious...


Aero,
'69 Firebird... and MINT!
Nice man... really nice!

Gorgeous car.

Perfect "car"... 1996... Dodge... RAM... 2500... Cummins... diesel... tubos... manual... 6 inch...
Dude, you would be an American even if you were born in Pakistan!
HAHA! Cool man.. cool truck. Any big wheel/tire combos?

Mitternacht,
You sure no diesel comes twin turbo?
Obviously, we're narrowing it down to vehicles on the road...
But, from the top of my head, I think that the last version of Ford's F250 was twin turbo...
I think...
If not, I'm almost positive that Mercedes makes twin turbo diesels... cars and trucks.
I think... :p



Omega + Mitternacht,
RE: Transmissions
Although it is true that the automatic transmissions have losses because of their designs (clutches, pumps, fluids, etc.), the torque converter actually has a multiplication factor for the torque... so you've got to take that into account.

The other thing, Omega, is that automatic costs vs manual costs is very application specific.
For example, a Turbo400, a nice one, for a typical iron V8 (Chevy, Dodge, Ford) will run you...

$600???
I bought a 6-speed Tremec T56 off eBay for $1,300... and that was after over 1 year of searching

EVERYWHERE.
Shipping was another cool $600 to the island... The two FedEx guys that dropped it off weren't too impressed with my project car.

RE: Brakes
Often overlooked and sent to the end of the list, brakes should be top priority, IMO.


Slug Toy,
I like the Porsche Carrera GT... it's an engineering masterpiece.
Did you know that it has TWO different cylinder firing schemes?
It goes through the 10 cylinders in one order, then it goes through the 10 cylinders in another different order, then back to the original. Constantly. Amazing. German engineering.

The Jaguar XJ220 looks/is great... too bad it didn't pan out as it should have.
Interesting side-not: The 220 of the name is because that was the promised top speed of the car.
Of course, initially they also offered it with 4WD and a V12.... ended up rear and a twin turbo V6.
At least it looks AMAZING.
I saw a flat-black one, with black wheels, NACA air ducts, big spoiler... Ufff... scary thing...

Porsche 917...
Wow. Nice choice.
I looove the 962... Dauer-Porsche 962 for the road... Basically, IMHO, a race car with license plates.

Cadillac Cien is/was amazing.
BEAUTIFUL car.
The Cadillac Sixteen was another thing all together.

I read about the roadster from Tesla... and I'm watching them. I hope all goes well for them.

Hey Slug Toy, we should shoot some ideas back and forth regarding dream cars...
I want to build various ones...
Here's a wierd one:::: small two seater... 4WD... here's the interesting part:
It has two inline 6 engines... placed horizontally, one at each side of the driver.
So, the engines sit between the tires, driver between the engines.
As you say, stuff is always changing, but I'd love to make this one naturally aspirated, open

exhaust, manual with 4 gears. A twisty-road car, open car.

Peace guys!
AJ




BTW: I just realized with this thread, that we are, seriously, a bunch of sick, sick to the bone,

modders/freaks/carlovers/geeks/mechanics/friends.

[Mitternacht]

Damn, lol.


Hey Mitternacht,
YOUR car is my kind of car!!!
Nice!!!
Hey, question... is that L-98, the one that has the reverse-direction cooling system?

13 and a quarter, eh?
Wow... she must really rock.
You call it a she, or a he?
Just curious...

...reverse cooling? Is that like asking me to hand you a left-handed screwdriver? :neutral:

and

HIS name is Bartholomew.

[Airbozo]

Automatics are for Whiteheads! And the drag strip of course. I traded my 2 speed auto out of my Chevelle for the Rockcrusher to a guy that put the auto in a drag car (after he modified the gears of course).

Interesting factoid: In Europe, manual transmissions make up something like 75% of the market, while in the US it is about 30%.

Oh and I know I posted this before, but IF I could afford it, this would be my very next car;
http://teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1

Silicon Valley technology at it's finest. I like the quote from the CEO about the battery technology. He said something like:"We don't worry or invest in the bttery technology. We let the high tech electronics company's figure that out and utilize the resulting technology in our cars."

They let Sony, Fujitsu and the rest develop the battery's and slap em in their cars. I just hope they were not using the exploding batteries!

[Mitternacht]

MY uncle has a '78 anniversary series vette stingray that i have been after since I was born.. It has like 50K miles on it.. Everything is orginal. He bought it for 10K off of some guy, put new tires on it, and stuck it in the garage. He's only driven it a little since then (before I was born). So little that the tires he got for it, when he bought it, still have the little bumpies on them..

: sigh :

He told me I could buy it from him "at cost" meaning I have to scrape up 10K for it. By the time that happens, it will cost like 2354$ just to fill it up at the pump.. lol

Specs, meh.. Google em.. It's not the pace car version, it's the silver/white version.. I know it's an auto (frown) 3spd, but has a beefy 427 of that year in it. Loud. True (stock) dual exhaust. Everything is original in it. Even the keys from the dealer. I bet with some work on the seats, a little tune up, maybe a auto-manual tranny conversion, this thing would be worth some monAy.

w00t

-Jeremy

427's didn't come in corvettes in 78.

[SnowFox]

Hi ! I'm 15 year's now and this is the car we have at home.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m222/SnowFox_91/520i.jpg

I don't got time to write som much about it so you just get the picure (no, that is not our car but it is a pic of the type)

[Omega]

I guess I have to chime in :::
Dream Car::: 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle 454 SS with the LS6 option... convertible, with 4 on the floor.

Black, and a red interior. Thank you very much.

Supercar::: Grab a Mosler, ask Lingenfelter for a twin turbo engine (the latest one), pop it in there, and... well, go to Germany to beat anything and everything on the road. Yum!

Comments:::
Omega,
You're a Nissan freak? Wierd...
BTW: Question: The Skyline now uses a V6????
I thought it was a inline 6...
Dumbasses... well, at least Nissan has the most refined/engineered V6 on the market.

RE: Brakes
Often overlooked and sent to the end of the list, brakes should be top priority, IMO.

The 917...
Wow. Nice choice.
I looove the 962... Dauer-Porsche 962 for the road... Basically, IMHO, a race car with license plates.
.

Well the Brakes thing was an afterthought when I was typing that, but yes, If I made an actaul list it would be first or second on the list.

About the RB26: Whoops, that's right, it's inline. I was tired D=
It's still one of the best engineered engine series out there, though.

You wanna know what Porsche is a race car for the road? The 959. That thing was light years ahead of it's time. The only other Porsche car to eclipse it has been the Carerra GT, excluding aftermarket cars, that is. And for a car released in 1986, that's an amazing feat.

[Slug Toy]

i like that 962. it just looks fast, let alone goes fast. i think i still like the 917 a little better though because its got an air cooled volkswagon v12 that puts out over 1000 horsepower.

[Omega]

i like that 962. it just looks fast, let alone goes fast. i think i still like the 917 a little better though because its got an air cooled volkswagon v12 that puts out over 1000 horsepower.

Well yeah, they're both race cars. But as far as street cars go, the Carerra GT and 959 are king by a long shot.

[AJ@PR]

Omega,
Good thing the inline 6 is still alive and kicking.
An inline 6 engine is in perfect harmonic balance...
Just as a flat 6 engine, and 60 degree variants of the inline 6 (v12).
A flat twelve, can be subdivided into two flat 6s, so it's also perfectly balanced.
A 90 degree V8 is also perfectly balanced.
Perfectly. Balanced. too many times.


Anyways, glad to know brakes are top priority...

The 959 was a kick-ass car. In fact, it's the only poster I've got on my room over at my mother's house... It's on the ceiling.
Did you know that the 959 was originally comissioned for _rally racing_... well, not rally, but more for the Dakar-Paris trek.
Nice, eh?

I know there are pictures of the 959 on the net, flying through mud, dirt, and *really* kicking it up.
Yeah, that's one helluva car.


Slug Toy,
V12?
It's a flat twelve... I'm almost 100% sure...
Yeap, a quick Wiki search and it's a flat 12.
Niceeee engine!

You are right about the 1000+ power.
Amazing.

Interesting Side-Data:::
On the heyday [sp?] of turbocharges in Formula 1, engines under 1.2 liters (that's 1,200 cc people! Under 74 cubic inches!!!), they would get over 1,300 in qualifying settings out of four cylinder engines.
Again, 4 cylinders, 1.2 liters, turbo, 1,300+ hp.
Amazing.
Secondary Side-Data:::
BMW was one of the suppliers of engines...
And get this, they found that the blocks of their road going, USED cars handled the 1,000+ power better than brand spanking new blocks.
Yeah, they would buy back their road going, over 35k mile, used bimmers (4 bangers) and machine/work that engine block.
That. Is. Wierd.

Cool!!!!

Peace guys!!! :)
AJ

[ChadB]

Heh. I love how Honda has the Civic, which sucks

Lol? man you couldn't be more wrong...Civic's with the K20A crate motor N/A can pull some very, very impressive quarter mile times.
I've seen many video's (off Limewire) of Civic's beating many more superior cars in drags (Ferrari's, Skylines, Supras). That is of course because these cars are so light and with expesive as parts, but none the less with the right amount of $$ you can make a kick ass Civic. But of course...these cars are only quick of the mark and in a race/longer drag most other cars will kill it. But yeh quarter mile these things own!!


But the car i would love to have the most is the R34 GT-R....With barely and upgrade in parts and a bit of NOS you can have your own kick ass skyline that will jump off the Dyno if not strapped down. Yep, they pull that much power with only a little tuning that will leave the Dyno. And the sound of a 1000hp Skyline with a fully open wastegate can damage your eardrums - lol.

[Mitternacht]

*WHEE WHOO WHEE WHOO!!* Pics aren't supposed to be wider than 700 pixels.

But yeah, that's a nice vette. Lovin' the silver.

OOH! Also, my Corvette; I just picked it up. The quarterpanel was messed up, and it looks perfect now. It only cost me a 22 cal handgun I don't even use anymore. :)

Pics whenever I get a newe camera; my camera now, the screen is broke.

[Omega]

Lol? man you couldn't be more wrong...Civic's with the K20A crate motor N/A can pull some very, very impressive quarter mile times.
I've seen many video's (off Limewire) of Civic's beating many more superior cars in drags (Ferrari's, Skylines, Supras). That is of course because these cars are so light and with expesive as parts, but none the less with the right amount of $$ you can make a kick ass Civic. But of course...these cars are only quick of the mark and in a race/longer drag most other cars will kill it. But yeh quarter mile these things own!!


But the car i would love to have the most is the R34 GT-R....With barely and upgrade in parts and a bit of NOS you can have your own kick ass skyline that will jump off the Dyno if not strapped down. Yep, they pull that much power with only a little tuning that will leave the Dyno. And the sound of a 1000hp Skyline with a fully open wastegate can damage your eardrums - lol.

You do realize that when I talk about cars, I am talking about the more common versions. I'm not talking about Civics with 30$k+ into them build for the 1320 only, I'm talking about the ones you see on the street with the neon green paint and 20$ bodykits that are falling off...

Heh, I'd love to have either one of the R34 GT-R V-Spec II Nurburgring editions, or a 1970 Skyline 2000GT. They're both really cool, but the V-Spec II could outperform the 2000GT any day (duh).

Eugh. NOS is overrated. Honestly. Not to mention, It's illegal, at least here in California. I mean, sure, an extra boost of power from time to time may come in useful on the road (for driving LEGALLY, of course, because street racing is retarded) and on the occasional track day, where you might need to get out of the way of a potential accident or to get into 1st place or whatnot.

Of course it can be nifty, but honestly, with refills and so forth, it adds up to be much more than a Turbocharger or Supercharger.

Reminds me, I saw an RX-7 (FC3s, 3rd Gen) do a dyno pull at the local performance shop (That got shut down, woe is me) and he pulled 750whp - 550ft/lb. Loud as ****, too, and I wasn't even in the shop (I was outside, behind the car, about 30ft). He was running a 3-rotor Wankel with Twin Turbos and a FMIC... It was pretty sweet.

Oh yeah. The guy who ran the shop, Branigan, had a 4th Gen Supra, and man, that thing was nice. Black, wingless, vented CF Hood, Engine and suspension mods out the ass, stock brakes (Anybody who knows about 4th Gen Supras know that they have some of the best stock brakes of any car, ever), it was Twin Turbo'd, FMIC'd, and just really sweet. Well, one day, somebody messed with the Turbo Controller, and he started it up, and it filled the showroom floor with smoke. White smoke. He rolled the car out the front and fixed it, but man, smoke came from every orifice of the car. The exhaust, the undercarriage, the engine bay, etc.

[Aero]

By the way, a little tip. 6" exhaust is too big for a Cummins; 5" is about the max you should go.

And twin turbos? No diesel comes with twin turbos. Unless you like to dream big and build one with twin turbos on it.


hmm, I've heard people doing fine with 6in on the Cummins, but yeah the twin turbo would be a custom job. http://www.bd-power.com/ram/product.php?pn=BD%20Super%20B%20Twin%20Turbos&tt=ram&israceproduct=1

[Vertigo]

I'm a sucker for old hot rods and muscle cars, here's my car.

68 Ford Fairlane 500 /w 289 Engine (all original)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/vertigo_038/thefairlane.jpg

I've also got these 3, that I have "plans" for in the future.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/vertigo_038/impala.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/vertigo_038/56belair.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/vertigo_038/52mercury.jpg

The Mercury and the Bel Air are my favorites.

[ChadB]

I'm a sucker for old hot rods and muscle cars, here's my car.

68 Ford Fairlane 500 /w 289 Engine (all original)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/vertigo_038/thefairlane.jpg

I've also got these 3, that I have "plans" for in the future.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/vertigo_038/impala.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/vertigo_038/56belair.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/vertigo_038/52mercury.jpg

The Mercury and the Bel Air are my favorites.

oo I like number two!

[AJ@PR]

hmm, I've heard people doing fine with 6in on the Cummins, but yeah the twin turbo would be a custom job. http://www.bd-power.com/ram/product.php?pn=BD%20Super%20B%20Twin%20Turbos&tt=ram&israceproduct=1
May God bless you for that link... I will cherish it for the rest of my life. :)

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/vertigo_038/52mercury.jpg

The Mercury and the Bel Air are my favorites.
Your Fairlane is sweet. :up: :up:

The Mercury looks like an awesome car.
Super hot rod::: chopped top, big block set lower and back... candy-color paint job... suspension/brakes.... a comfy interior with a computer or two...

Ahhhh... :)

[Mitternacht]

May God bless you for that link... I will cherish it for the rest of my life. :)

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Your Fairlane is sweet. :up: :up:

The Mercury looks like an awesome car.
Super hot rod::: chopped top, big block set lower and back... candy-color paint job... suspension/brakes.... a comfy interior with a computer or two...

Ahhhh... :)

You forgot about the flamethrower exhaust system!

[AJ@PR]

You forgot about the flamethrower exhaust system!
Computer controlled.... :p
for sure!

Some LEDs here and there...
Rolling WiFi AP...

[Vertigo]

Oh I have plans lol. Bel Air and Mercury are going to be basically the same paint job. Black and candy red, with ghost-faded flames at the front. Mercury is definitely going to be low and chopped, etc. Possibly suicide hinges on the doors. As a side note, you'll never guess where I found those 2 cars.

In a creek that ran thru this guys pasture in rural Arkansas. That's why the Mercury is so rusted, it was in about 2 ft of water with a tree growing through it when I liberated it.