Thermalright XP 90

[Zeus]

Hey, does anyone here use the XP-90 heatsink?

I was going to put at Gigabyte PCU21-VG heatsink on my CPU because I needed something that is not too tall as I am using it in a SFF pc.

The dimensions of this heatsink are:
8.5cm Width
9cm Depth
9.5cm Heighth

Thanks makes it about 2cm too tall and .25cm too wide
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/zeus9387/8d977c63.jpg


I need something a bit shorter. if possible.

I know there are sites out there that have the dimensions of the heatsink but I need to know if that is the height of the heatsink with or without the fan and if it is measuring just the heatsink or including the height off the mobo PCB. If anyone out there uses this heatsink can you please illuminate me?

Thanks

[MisterChief]

For my P4, I'm using a Zalman C7700 HSF on an MSI 865PE mobo. That particular combo meets my needs very well. It's compact, has good cooling properties, and looks cool with the blue LED! But I'm getting off track. I've never used the XP-90, though I've heard good things about it. Well, you could always get a new case to fit that HS.

Here's a link to FrozenCPU, it's a really good site devoted to cooling products. Check out the CPU section for a large selection of HSF's.
http://www.frozencpu.com
I know it's not the answer you're looking for, but that's my two cents. :)

[Zeus]

I believe you are referring to the cnps 7700. And unfortunately, according to Zalman's website, the 7700 and the 7000c HSFs are not compatable with my board. I am using an MSI RS480M2-IL. That was my first intention until I read it was not compatable with my board :(

THanks anyway ;)

[Frakk]

i dont have the xp 90 but im pretty sure the height on their site is from the base of the heatsink to the top of it, without the fan. if you are looking to replace the gigabyte one, id recommend the tr slk-948u, review here (http://pcmoddingmy.com/content.php?review.54)
nice mobo btw :)

[Zeus]

I had seen that one before but had ruled it out because the density of the fins was such that it required a high CFM fan. That usually also translates to higher noise. I am hoping to avoid that.

[Frakk]

i dont think you need a high cfm fan for the slk948u, you would probably get away with a 40cfm 90mm fan. you could also use noise dampening mats if you'd really need a tornado on it. im afraid you wont be able to fit the xp 90 in there. its pretty tall plus add 2.5cm for the fan and airflow. you'd have to mod that drive bay and somehow find room for it, or choose a different heatsink. did you look at the thermaltake pipe101? ive heard its a good heatsink with 4 heatpipes and it is 5cm high. anyways, check out some low-profile coolers or look for a way to mod that case, or you can order the heatsink too and pry for it to fit while its on its way :)

[MisterChief]

I believe you are referring to the cnps 7700. And unfortunately, according to Zalman's website, the 7700 and the 7000c HSFs are not compatable with my board. I am using an MSI RS480M2-IL. That was my first intention until I read it was not compatable with my board :(

THanks anyway ;)

Wow, I thought the 7xxx series was pretty much universal... and just for reference, what CPU are you using?

[Zeus]

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Winchester
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103502

[MisterChief]

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Winchester
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103502
I'm assuing you are OCing.

Let's see, an XP-90 won't fit, and Zalman dosen't support your mobo... shoot, I'm out of ideas. I'll snoop around a little bit.

[Zeus]

your assistance is very much appreciated. BTW, I hadn't thought about the pipe 101. I will look into that one. Anyone had any experience they would care to share with that one?

[Xato]

I found the Pipe 101 to be a very nice heatsink for the price.
We started putting them into the more expensive jobs that we sold in the comp shop i worked at. They performed well and kept the CPU quite cool under load.

[Zeus]

how do you think it would perform in a SFF case? Air flow is going to be something I will have to struggle with in that cramped area

[Frakk]

no matter what heatsink you put on it, it wont perform if you dont have airflow around it. bigger is not always better and in certain conditions the heatpipe101 MIGHT outperform the xp90. with the taller heatsink and less room for its fan, you can limit the already small airflow through the fins, but with a smaller heatsink you get a lot better flow through it. the bottom line is, its your shuttle and you have to decide what you want.

[Xato]

Here are the specs of the XP90, i'm not to sure if this includes the mounting plate or not... but it seems its still going to hit the cage unless you get a really skinny fan.

Dimensions:
L116 x W96 x H75 (mm) Fin only, without fan
L116 x W96 x H96 (mm) Fin only, with 25mm thick fan


The pipe101 is only 47mm high, so it will allow you plenty of room to get a decent fan on.

[Vampire]

I have the XP-90, and if you're looking into air cooling and cant afford or fit the XP-120, get the XP-90. 24c idle 38 load, nuff said. Oh and thats with 1.65 vcore on my northwood 2.8c @ 3.6Ghz

[Xato]

Dude, it wont fit... thats the prob... unless you can find an ultra slim line fan or use a ducting mod.

[Vampire]

A ducting mod will take up a LOT of space on top of the heatsink, a 92mm duct when bent 90 degrees will still vertically take up 92mm, so I doubt thats a solution.

You could always watercool =D

[Frakk]

Vampire I think you dont get the whole point. he has a shuttle case and has problems with the size of the xp90. watercooling would be an option only if it is external but i doubt its worth the trouble and money for a sff pc.

[Zeus]

Yeah, I looked into water cooling and decided that it would not work for my purposes. But the pipe 101 might not be so bad.

Here's another thought I had. Tell me what you guys think...

I could grind down the HDD cage where it causes problems in the picture above. Then instead of putting the fans as show here
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/zeus9387/basicideaside.jpg
I could cut the holes a bit further back for the side fans. Also, since I was planning on putting a sizable air vent at the top of the case, this would help for exhausting air. Here are my concerns with this.

1. The HSF I have now has a fan that runs down the center of the HS that sucks air from the top and blows it out the sides. If I move the side fans back, then it seems to me it would be working agains the one built into the HSF. Also, I was planning on putting a 60mm on the top vent to suck air out the top of the case. This would again, be working against the HSF. Any ideas on what I could do in this situation?

[Zeus]

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I would be instead mounting the hdd in one of the side mounts as shown in this picture instead of under the optical drive.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/zeus9387/c69a5fe8.jpg

[cygnus_x_1]

have you checked out SFF Tech.com (http://www.sfftech.com) ?

they have pretty good forums and articles on the site that may point you in the right direction...

i used to know of a specialized watercooling site for shuttles/sff's but i cant find them anymore.

[Zeus]

will look into that. Thx

[DRece]

This post may be a bit late but I do have this xp-90c with the "c" standing for copper.

The xp-90c does great for my athlon 64 3500+ ,but it does have height and wieght to it. Also, to mount it to my motherboard, it requred abit of modding.

When I did research on this heatsink for when I built my system, I think I found a chart of somesort that told of what would and would not fit. As for the size of the xp-90c it is about 3 inchs high and has a unique shape (like some sort of engine)

If you consider this heatsink you could just side cool it by placing fans on either side of the heatsink, like some sort of tunnel effect. You don't have to have a fan on top to heatsink, or would ya?

[Zeus]

that might work as I was planning an intake on the side panel right next to it and an exhaust fan above it. Hmm.... 3 inches if just the HS w/o fan right?

[Malatory]

that might work as I was planning an intake on the side panel right next to it and an exhaust fan above it. Hmm.... 3 inches if just the HS w/o fan right?

You want a pic with a ruler next to it (On a Asus A8N Sli Deluxe mobo??) That way you can see the mesurments.

dave(at)bodybydk(dot)com or malatory(at)malatorymods(dot)com (Domain I am just starting)

[DRece]

that might work as I was planning an intake on the side panel right next to it and an exhaust fan above it. Hmm.... 3 inches if just the HS w/o fan right?


That is rough olver estimate without the fan, so ya

[DRece]

also the xp-90c requires a custom bracket to hold it in place.

[Zeus]

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