Grrr

[DaveW]

My neighbors are trying to access files on my computer through the wireless network! I need to look up that article i have on wireless security.

I've booted them off the DHCP client table. I'll turn off the wireless network till i've sorted this out, which disconnects my Wii from connect24, but i'm more worried about Network security. Really should have sorted this out already.

It's one thing to leach a connection, but to try to access my files...that's just bare arsed cheek. I'm temped to go round there and have a word with them.

-Dave

[SgtM]

Turn on MAC address filtering and turn off SSID broadcasts. Then, your wireless will only accept connections from MAC addresses you specify, and your neighbors won't even see your wireless network. Not sure how you would find the MAC on your wii, but I would imagine that there has to be a sticker on it somewhere.

edit:
duh.. you should be able to see the wii MAC address if you look at the DHCP log.

[nil8]

Yea, what he said. =P

Do what sgtm says. He's right. Another option is a wep key. I highly doubt if your neighbors can crack wep.

Nothing wrong giving them a piece of your mind, but they know they are caught because you've shut it off. If it happens again after you secure your wireless connection, then it's a problem.

[SgtM]

nil8: also a good suggestion on turning on WEP

For those who may not know, a MAC address is a Media Access Control address. Basically, it's a hexidecimal number made up of the assigned manufacturer code number, and *usually the serial number of the card. It is unique to every manufacturer and their respective products. If you open a command prompt, and then type in ipconfig/all you will see the mac address represented as the physical address. The MAC address on my machine is
00:13:D3:2B:47:0E. This number can be converted to decimal, but that gets into counting in hex which I'm REALLY rusty at.

Yes MAC addresses can be spoofed, but I doubt your neighbor knows how to do that. IMHO you should turn on MAC filtering, disable SSID broadcasts, and also change the SSID.

[Cevinzol]

I'm temped to go round there and have a word with them.
I say you search their hard drive for pron. THEN go over and threaten to tell their wife/parents what you found on their machine. If they don't have any on their machine, offer to put some nice kitty stuff on before you call the FBI on them.

Another thing you could do would be to seed a virus or rootkit on your machine for them find. give it a nice file name like "Leather chicks of jello-land". Then sit back and laugh as their machine crashes.

irongeek.com The joys of skiddy-baiting (http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=security/skiddy-baiting) Don't get mad get even :)

[Airbozo]

I had a similar issue with a neighbor. It was my fault for not securing my wireless router so I took it in stride. But then again they were only using my connection and did not try to access any system. The funny thing is about 3 weeks after I shut off the wireless broadcast (I don't use any wireless devices), I was out on our local road crew cleaning up and my neighbor mentioned that his wireless connection had failed and he had to have sbc/att come out to fix it. They of course found nothing wrong and he is still having problems with wireless, but his direct connect is working... Digit!

I offered to fix it for him for a fee. They just got back from vacation so we'll see if he takes me up on his offer.

It would really be nice if you could send a instant message to anyone on your network (kind of like 'wall' in unix but network wide), or a picture...

[AJ@PR]

You guys are too good....

I would capture the packets... crack their eMail addys and password, then send a very nice eMail to themselves.

Or fill-up their hdd with horse-bestiality pr0n or something.
That would be hilarious.

[SgtM]

It would really be nice if you could send a instant message to anyone on your network (kind of like 'wall' in unix but network wide), or a picture...

You can.. Start --> Run then type netsend computername or ip address message. Granted, the messenger service has to be on for this, but it's on by default.

[samurai_crip]

Me + Bat - neighbors = No more trouble ;)

[Airbozo]

You can.. Start --> Run then type netsend computername or ip address message. Granted, the messenger service has to be on for this, but it's on by default.

Thanks! I like this idea!


Me + Bat - neighbors = No more trouble ;)

you forgot part of the equation...

No more trouble = (!neighbor trouble) x size of bat x number of marks left x Police officers = time in jail... (probably not correct algebra though...)

[nil8]

netsend only works on windows 2k/xp I believe. I could be mistaken. I also think that after sp2 it was patched to stop spammers.

Another option for retaliation is trying to connect to their local printer and leaving them a printout about them using your wireless for free.

sgtm: If Dave's neighbor knows how to do mac spoofing, I'm pretty sure they could get around wep. Very unlikely, but you never know.

Another option is to change your internal IP scheme to a different address than 192.168.x.x and turn off dhcp. This is a short term deterrent for anyone wanting to screw with your network. It only takes a network scanner that listens for open ports to make this useless, but your average noob won't know what to do.

[ESX]

My way of handling neighbor problems is kind of violent, but very VERY effective! :D

[armadilloben]

Me + Bat - neighbors = No more trouble ;)

correction me + logic bomb = neighbors contents of c drive = bye bye ;)

[DRece]

This is why I don't wireless, I can see where my internet will go and nowhere else. Unless, I throw a long net wire out the window and leave there, than I might as well go wireless. A laptop with a wireless connection can get a good connection from a nearby hotels, thus it keeps me from wanting a wireless when I get a "happy thought" about it all.

[armadilloben]

i have my laptop and my psp secured on wpa cuz of my dads strict security rules and the biggest vuneriblilty in the entire friggen network is the wep encryption on my location free player :up:

[simon275]

My neighbors are trying to access files on my computer through the wireless network! I need to look up that article i have on wireless security.

I've booted them off the DHCP client table. I'll turn off the wireless network till i've sorted this out, which disconnects my Wii from connect24, but i'm more worried about Network security. Really should have sorted this out already.

It's one thing to leach a connection, but to try to access my files...that's just bare arsed cheek. I'm temped to go round there and have a word with them.

-Dave

Set up a WPA encyrption it uses a dictionary passcode. If you have a higher end router you can configure it and your PC to change the passcode every so many hours. Use Mac filtering mac addresses are hard to spoof.


You guys are too good....

I would capture the packets... crack their eMail addys and password, then send a very nice eMail to themselves.


So would I

Netsend doesn't work in XP. There is an option in XP Services you need to turn on.

The best method to stop against this is a social one. Go and knock on your neighbors door and tell them that you know what they are up to and that it is electronic trespass and is a privacy violation. If the don't stop pay a visit to your local police station. Sometimes the police don't care but the police may want to make an example of them. If the police fob you off tell your neighbors contacted the police they should stop if not they are very stupid.

If you want an eye for an eye remember if they can access your network then you can access theres. I
Around where I live I can get five wifi networks including ours and all of them including ours are WPA secured.

If you really hate them. Set your router to a different channel and your cards. Then make your own wifi jammer on the channel they are using. You can find circut diagrams and component lists on the interweb.

NOTE: I do not endorse any of these activities I am only providing information. I am not responsible for your actions.

[DaveW]

Nah, they seem like decent guys. I think they stumbled upon it by mistake-but if i stumbled up someone's network i wouldn't try and access their computer.

I'll set up MAC address filtering sometime soon and get the MAC's of all my hardware.

Thanks guys!

PS: Netsend didn't work, i tried that one.

-Dave