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Zephik
01-07-2007, 01:21 AM
lol I don't care what you say, this guy is the biggest dork I have ever seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOJnKgsWPGw

Right....

http://www.savetheinternet.com/

Zephik
01-07-2007, 02:00 AM
Ask a Ninja! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibStAFDqw_Y&eurl=)

God I love that dude...

GT40_GearHead
01-07-2007, 02:47 AM
lol I don't care what you say
....... don't wory Snow... I still love you

<can't see the damn thing, stupid connection>

public_eyesore
01-07-2007, 03:25 AM
HOLY CRAP!!! WE NEED TO SAVE THE INTERNET!
How come I have never heard about this

nil8
01-07-2007, 03:26 AM
Moby has become the voice of net neutrality....
flaming puppies inside of a cement mixer.

Seriously though, net neutrality is important and if you care about keeping the internet out of the hands of business and government affairs, get on board.

Zephik
01-07-2007, 04:17 AM
I did a little research on it... and... well... here I'll just SHOW you what I think about it.

www.myspace.com/ihartbubes

Yes, I know. My URL rawks with a capital D. ^_^

.Maleficus.
01-07-2007, 11:08 AM
I did a little research on it... and... well... here I'll just SHOW you what I think about it.

www.myspace.com/ihartbubes

Yes, I know. My URL rawks with a capital D. ^_^
Nice... Choral net-neutrality music... sweet...

DaveW
01-07-2007, 12:04 PM
Hey Crimson, you want me to sign up TBCS over at www.savetheinternet.com ?

-Dave

Crimson Sky
01-07-2007, 12:49 PM
Hey Crimson, you want me to sign up TBCS over at www.savetheinternet.com (http://www.savetheinternet.com) ?

-Dave


You bet. although I'm concerned that its a .com. this makes you question their intentions just a bit.

CanaBalistic
01-07-2007, 07:48 PM
This is what i got when i tried to sign the petition.


We're sorry but it appears that you are not eligible to participate in this campaign. This campaign is designated for constituents of the targeted decisionmaker(s) and based upon your address, it appears that you do not live in an area represented by the targeted decisionmaker(s). If you would like to correct your address information, please return to


I live in the biggest canadian west coast metropolis. For some "geological" reason, vancouver doesnt get a say in this, somthing that'll aftect the whole planet. I think its a bunch of horse **** to get your email addy for mass marketing. I say this because they've gone so far as to include british columbia in the selection box. What a joke! Dont enter your email adress into that site. save yourself the trouble and email spam.

Zephik
01-07-2007, 09:20 PM
That is interesting... It is called the "world wide web" but only the united states has a say in it? Hmmm...

Well maybe it is only dealing with American companies Like Verizon, Bell South and AT&T (to list the big ones). Which are everywhere in the world but are located in the United States. So... its called the world wide web yes, but it isn't dealing with ALL the web. Just a part of it, the part of it that is located in America to be precise.

Okay, I just kind of confused myself. Anyone want to explain this better?

Crimson Sky
01-07-2007, 09:56 PM
the site does seem just a little too slick to be just some grass roots organization fighting for the rights of web surfers while confronting the telecom industries. But I could be wrong, I have been before.

One thing my wife (the brilliant librarian) brought up: If net neutrality really is in danger, you may be seeing black market IP addresses for sale online.

Zephik
01-07-2007, 10:13 PM
http://www.techliberation.com/archives/038647.php

Thought that was kind of interesting. I'm not sure what it says though...

Found this on the website that was mentioned too...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/neutrality.asp

jdbnsn
01-07-2007, 10:45 PM
I guess I really don't fully understand the consequences of what is on the table here, I've hear propaganda on both sides that I haven't had the time to sift through. I assume this is just another move toward worldwide corporate privatization just like airspace, and water supplies (like the incident in Bolivia where citizens were forbidden by law from collecting rainwater as it was private property, then sold their semi-safe drinking water at 30% of their income) Is that the jist of what we are looking at here with bandwidth and access/content?

nil8
01-08-2007, 01:17 AM
jdbnsn: Basically you got it.

Telecoms want to have the ability to pick what gets priority on their services.
An easy example. Microsoft pays SBC Global 40 million dollars. All users of SBC Global get access to Microsoft faster than any other website because of this. It's a way for business to buy online loyalties. The benefits are supposed to be cheaper internet and telephone services to customers. I doubt if this will happen. It will go where excess money goes, to the top and into their payroll.

This might not seem like a big deal, but the reason that this is being fought so hard is because this can quickly become a situation where ISP start blocking websites that don't pay them money and filtering the Internet of safe, useful content. I wouldn't want an Internet where I couldn't access the Library of Congress website until I went to Foxnews.com.

The idea of net neutrality is to enact legislation that says this can't be done by any company for any reason.

IP numbers aren't well monitored for fraud and aren't (yet) a scarce commodity. Maybe in the next 20 years or so. Or maybe we'll all convert to IPv6 and not have to worry about it for another 50 years. Doubtful, but you never know.

Net neutrality has caused a large amount of noise from the colleges in America. For 3 weeks or so it was a spotlight in the tech and anti-corporate world. That's why it's so well known. It was around the time that a Congressman described the Internet as a "series of tubes".

Recently I've seen my cable provider running ads on TV saying how net neutrality is a 'ploy by the big silicon valley companies' to screw the customers out of fair pricing, when it really doesn't have much to do with price at all.

There's the limited knowledge I have. There are a lot of good sites with info about net neutrality and the debate.