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Zephik
01-13-2007, 03:02 AM
Well this is something I haven't seen before... What exactly is it for?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815168001

Also, I have a completely unrelated side question.

I've seen those Dual Lan mobo's, but they are really pricey. So would having THIS (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815283009) combined with your computers on board Lan be the same thing or would it not work? Can you get Dual Lan cards that will work like Dual Lan mobos? ...man what a newb question.

Ronyx
01-13-2007, 03:06 AM
you my friend are looking at Gigabyte's I-RAM.
it's a hard drive =] lolz believe it or not it acts like a hard drive letting you store things and even boot an entire OS off the ram. This means i think around a constant 130mb flow of data =]
but it's way too expensive just yet so i wouldn't recommend it to people... plus you have to buy the ram for it... it's not supplied

EDIT: found the exact specs, here ya go =]
0.015ms access time, faster than any non-ram solid state disk drive on the market. 138 MB/s sustained read and 132 MB/s sustained write on my system. Boots windows in ~4 seconds

Omega
01-13-2007, 03:54 AM
I want to get that RAMDrive thing with ****ing, like, 8gb of RAM (4x 2gb) at like CAS2. That would ****ing own.

Then, of course, buy several. One for windows, One for WoW, and one for all my other apps.

Ronyx
01-13-2007, 04:04 AM
we can always dream :rolleyes:

simon275
01-13-2007, 04:44 AM
A Atomic mag got to review one loaded it up with ram and booted from bios post into windows in 4 seconds pretty cool.

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/article.asp?CIID=25672




Also, I have a completely unrelated side question.

I've seen those Dual Lan mobo's, but they are really pricey. So would having THIS (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815283009) combined with your computers on board Lan be the same thing or would it not work? Can you get Dual Lan cards that will work like Dual Lan mobos? ...man what a newb question.

It is all a question of drivers. Some dual lan mobos can have two connections to a network and so get a higher priority on a switch. If you grabed two of those cards and got some drivers or did some voodoo coding you could probably get both cards to work.

Slug Toy
01-13-2007, 06:08 AM
I want to get that RAMDrive thing with ****ing, like, 8gb of RAM (4x 2gb) at like CAS2. That would ****ing own.

im pretty sure i read somewhere that there are limitations because its a first design. i think you're stuck with 4GB max and ddr400 max. im not sure about the timings though... im not even sure if they would be detected as ram since they would be on a pci card.

DaveW
01-13-2007, 06:55 AM
I think they have serious issues when being used for long periods of time-i think they tend to lose pieces of data, which is why they haven't hit the market like a storm.

-Dave

Ronyx
01-13-2007, 08:25 AM
they're purely aimed at "enthusiasts" because only enthusiasts will waste that much money on something that useless... lolz

DaveW
01-13-2007, 08:47 AM
It's not really useless, when the technology is complete, it will be possible to have a computer with absolutely no moving parts at all. That means the life of computers will increase hugely-which could destroy moore's law, meaning this could be the 'apex' of computer technology's rapid expansion. Personally, i doubt that, but it's possible.

-Dave

Vertigo
01-13-2007, 11:36 AM
Moore's law will fall apart on it's own in due time, atleast according to Kaku's projections on quantum computing and artificial intelligence. But I'm getting off topic, this is actually pretty interesting imo. If it worked now, for instance it would be a little easier to make a mini itx type computer in a very small enclosure. Making a media pc that is noiseless for instance would be a good deal easier, and more compact.

Airbozo
01-13-2007, 02:48 PM
Well this is something I haven't seen before... What exactly is it for?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815168001

Also, I have a completely unrelated side question.

I've seen those Dual Lan mobo's, but they are really pricey. So would having THIS (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815283009) combined with your computers on board Lan be the same thing or would it not work? Can you get Dual Lan cards that will work like Dual Lan mobos? ...man what a newb question.

I used to service a device called a Solid State Storage Device (not the product name), from a company named Storage Tek (now part of Sun), back in the late '80's. Due to the cost, most customers were financial institution's and large Schools. The military even experimented with it, but dropped plans for widespread use, due to susceptibility from emf pulses. The product was dropped when STC went into bankruptcy due to its cost and limited penetration into the market.

You can actually use both on board Ethernet ports on the same network in dual burst mode or even set them up in asynchronis mode where one port transmits and the other port receives. You can also use them on different networks with their own ip. No voodoo required, just load the drivers and set them up. You could also install multiple ethernet adapters in your computer and turn it into an intelligent router. There is a linux distro specifically for this that contains a finely tuned kernel, all the drivers and libraries for creating a router or switch and nothing else.
Here is one; http://lr101.linux-it-solutions.de/?lang=en

Here is a good tutorial; http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5826

I am sure there is a windows router project out there or at least some way to do the same thing, but the bloat of the windows OS would probably not give good performance. Or maybe someone has tuned server 2003 to give good performance. I do know that you can install several network adapters in windows at once and have them work fine with no tweaking.

Here is an intel quad adapter; http://www.intel.com/network/connectivity/products/pro1000pt_quad_server_adapter.htm

It would also depend on the pci bus layout on your mobo. A couple of these cards would saturate the pci bus, so if you want to create a real router you will need a system with multiple pci buses on the mother board.

Zephik
01-13-2007, 09:19 PM
Nice, thanks for that Airbozo! haha, You always have the best answers to like, everything.

So... I could have multiple in's and multiple out's? Hmmm, you know, I should just get a MIMO wireless adapter to go along with my dads netgear 240. Would that be the same as having dual lan or more?

armadilloben
01-17-2007, 01:07 AM
I want to get that RAMDrive thing with ****ing, like, 8gb of RAM (4x 2gb) at like CAS2. That would ****ing own.

Then, of course, buy several. One for windows, One for WoW, and one for all my other apps.

or if you really wanna go nuts say they made it with rambus's new xdr ram that clocks at like 3ghz then say its like the 8 gig ram chips they use in sun systems and so 8x4=32 x 2(of the cards togother in raid 0) = 64 gigs of awseum ram dude!!!

crenn
01-17-2007, 09:06 AM
Ah, the I-RAM. Although fast, you have to be rich to be able to set it up completely. Also because of Vista's ready drive and intel's robson (http://www.intel.com/technology/magazine/computing/robson-1206.htm), this means that the I-RAM has basically become redundant. Also remember, some manufacturers are planning to build 'hybrid' drives with your normal HDD in it, but also flash memory in the drive.

Either way, it's still being developed but it looks promising so far.

crenn
01-17-2007, 11:17 PM
SATAII is only limited to 300MB/s, but most single drives (I won't say about RAIDs as they can get more than 300MB/s, but they need multiple channels) can't reach that speed, even in bursts.

The I-RAM used the PCI slot for power only, but it required you to have a SATA cable (SATA I only) running from the card to a spare SATA port on the motherboard or controller.

As for the hybrid drives, google has the answers you seek:
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=hybrid+HDD