The Heat!

[simon275]

I know all you states side are having cold weather been seeing it in the news. But down under it is summer time and today the temps reached 41 degrees (105.8 F). Only the bottom level of my house has aircon luckily that is where my comp is.

My bedroom though is in the heat zone and all my deodorant sticks have died. :eek:

[nil8]

Use a paste made of cornstarch and water. Cake it into your armpits. It will trap sweat amazingly well after it hardens, assuming you have enough hair for it to stick. Most people do, except people who shave their armpits.

Mud works well too, but it can contain bacteria that can cause skin problems and it doesn't absorb smell.

Cold? Think sheets of ice. My town got almost 7cm of ice. 80% of my town lost power(90,000). I still don't have it. It's been a week and it's supposed to be another 1 to 2 before I do have it.

[simon275]

Use a paste made of cornstarch and water. Cake it into your armpits. It will trap sweat amazingly well after it hardens, assuming you have enough hair for it to stick. Most people do, except people who shave their armpits.

Mud works well too, but it can contain bacteria that can cause skin problems and it doesn't absorb smell.

Cold? Think sheets of ice. My town got almost 7cm of ice. 80% of my town lost power(90,000). I still don't have it. It's been a week and it's supposed to be another 1 to 2 before I do have it.

That is gross. Luckily I have aerosol deodorant. Yeah it was on our local news plus its all over CNN and BBC world on cable. Hope you get your power back. I bet there was a rush on generators at the local hardware store.

[isunktheship]

Yeah... I live in San Diego as well as Riverside, California, and both places got snow. It kinda sucks for crops, orange groves are getting destroyed.

Nil8, are you an eagle scout?

[nil8]

No, I have spent time learning how to survive without a lot of modern conveniences. It's an important thing that most modern humans rarely learn and can have dire consequences. It only takes a few days of serious disruption to make humans turn back into animals. I want to know how to deal with myself in those situations.

Gross? Maybe. Effective and cheap? Definitely.
Buy something with baking soda, it will help get rid of moisture as well. It will leave white streaks and might not look great, but it works well to prevent moisture-related skin problems.

There was more than a rush. The 2nd day of the storm people were bringing in 18 wheelers full of generators and selling them for over a thousand bucks a piece.

There was a shortage of gas for a couple of days. It took me 4 hours to fill my tank.

My county was declared a disaster area and one of the worst two hit. The national guard is here as well as 300 electric crews from around the country. I talked briefly to the guys putting up power poles near my house. They were from Pittsburgh.

[isunktheship]

Wow. That's good you know what to do. I'm an Eagle Scout and I haven't learned that stuff.

I hope that chaos is restored quickly!

[GT40_GearHead]

It only takes a few days of serious disruption to make humans turn back into animals

that is so true

last summer we made a 1 week trip in to the mountains and I fealt great, but some of my friends... well i can tell you some of them started cryng =),
but I had blast, hell i can eat raw meat, I know how to start a fire, how to cock for my self, how to put up a tent, i love taking a dip in the mountain water

and they where like: aaaa , we dant have bathroom...!...wtf, be a man for wance in you'r life

oh and, i was always amaized of how peolple get messed up when teh electricity goes, i dont get it!
we lost curent, it hapens once in while, but its not an ishue, i can heat my house with wood, i can cock, we have one of them gas containers

[Reyer]

In seattle like 1/4 of the peoplel lost their power.

the idiots didnt know what to do.
i think like 50 people died because they bought generators and put them inside of their houses with no windows or doors open.

[sirkillalot617]

u think thats bad last summer the boiler got stuck on on so my room was already hot due to the sun coming threw the window and in an atempt to change the thermosat i broke it so the radator was on full blast as well.

[DaveW]

I still don't have it. It's been a week and it's supposed to be another 1 to 2 before I do have it.

I believe Nil8 has a UPS for those who were wondering. ;)

-Dave

[Maz]

I figured he did, or just had an obscenely large amount of hamsters running in cages.

[tybrenis]

I believe Nil8 has a UPS for those who were wondering. ;)

-Dave

I believe he's living with a friend.

Or is that another member..?

[DaveW]

I believe he's living with a friend.

Or is that another member..?

It could be his friend's UPS? I'm sure he'll clear it up in a week's time. :D

-Dave

[nil8]

I'm living with a friend. I have a 1000va APC UPS on my home rig. It will run my box for the better part of 2 hours.

[Ironcat]

Alright... we all know how I HATE to stir up trouble... but here we go again with people knowing just enough about something to get themselves in trouble... I don't know a lot about a lot of things, but the few things I know, I know a lot about.
I was a Corpsman in the Navy, did 2 years FMF and got to see lots and lots of men sweating...
Since getting out of the service (admittedly awhile ago) although, I schooled in various other areas, most of my work has been in the medical field. I am a licensed medical assistant and phlebotomist and I have to tell you that this...


Use a paste made of cornstarch and water. Cake it into your armpits. It will trap sweat amazingly well after it hardens, assuming you have enough hair for it to stick. Most people do, except people who shave their armpits.


...is some of the worst advice ever given in these forums.

Sweating is a natural and necessary function of your body's cooling system. Caking cornstarch on to stop yourself from sweating will not in fact make you stop, it will instead block up your sweat, possibly infect your apocrine glands, and hurt like a bitch when you finally pull it off, because the salts in your sweat will crystalize with the cornstarch and harden it almost to the point where you HAVE to pull it off cuz it won't rinse away!
That's like saying if your cooling fan is making too much noise, put dust over all your intake vents so you'll hear it less!

Sweat by itself doesn't even stink... in fact, if you drink lots of water and change your diet, you can sweat all over the place and not be smelled... we hunters do it every year.

A SMALL amount of cornstarch mixed in some water (think enough to make it look like a glass of milk) and then dabbed underneath, will absorb any odor caused by your troublesome underarm bacteria.

[simon275]

Alright... we all know how I HATE to stir up trouble... but here we go again with people knowing just enough about something to get themselves in trouble...

We still like you anyway. +rep

[nil8]

Sweating is the body's cooling system. And it's also true that sweat doesn't smell. The smell comes from the bacterial wastes that live in sweat.

Often if you're in such a desperate situation that you're using cornstarch and water, you're being active. As you move around the cornstarch will clump up in hair and not block or stop air from moving through your armpits or causing any of the problems you caused. I've done it while camping, it clumps up very similar to baking soda based white deoderant, just larger clumps. On top of that it also often gets rubbed away while moving around.

As for hurting, yes, it will, much like a bandaid if you're not in water. It will tear hair out. If you submerse yourself in a lake or take a shower, it dissolves.

The best way to keep from stinking in hot weather is take multiple showers a day, and take cooler showers.

What do you hunt in florida?

[Ironcat]

I think the better question would be... what DON'T I hunt?

In the wintertime we hunt deer (okay so they are small compared to up North but they are still deer) and small game.
Spring and fall is for turkey.
Anytime of year we hunt wild hog.

Summertime I hunt for snapper, grouper, lobster, etc... I is a spearfisherman too.

[nil8]

Spearfishing isn't easy.
Florida has turkey? I didn't know that.
Sounds like you fish too. Ocean, lake or stream?

[nil8]

I'm a Missouri native and have never fished in saltwater. Thanks for the info Minty.
It would give Dave something to do while he's not in school.

What size deer do you have?

[DaveW]

Someone needs to plunge it ftw. I vote for Dave.


It would give Dave something to do while he's not in school.

Sure, bring it on. Fish for everyone. I spend every day fishing SPAM from these boards, how hard can this be? ;)

-Dave

[ReignInPain]

http://www.dicofr.com/def2/image/spam.gif

Here you go ;)

[Ironcat]

Yes, we have turkeys. In fact, here in Florida we actually have one of the three or four registered turkey subspecies. It's called the Osceola.

Our deer are generally small. 100 - 125 is normal, 150 would be a good deer in Florida, and 200 would be a beast. In general, the further North you go in the state, the bigger the deer get...

We also have a couple of counties in NW Florida (it just so happens I have access to hunt private land up there) where it is legal to hunt Canada Geese.

Our hogs are probably the best known hunting in Florida. My personal best was 215# with just a knife but people get quite a few in the 300 - 400 pound range every year, and there are private game preserves where they reach 700 or 800 pounds and the head mounts are as big around as a truck tire.

I fish salt, fresh, or brackish but here in Florida we can only spear in Salt.

[armadilloben]

Sweating is the body's cooling system. And it's also true that sweat doesn't smell. The smell comes from the bacterial wastes that live in sweat.

Often if you're in such a desperate situation that you're using cornstarch and water, you're being active. As you move around the cornstarch will clump up in hair and not block or stop air from moving through your armpits or causing any of the problems you caused. I've done it while camping, it clumps up very similar to baking soda based white deoderant, just larger clumps. On top of that it also often gets rubbed away while moving around.

As for hurting, yes, it will, much like a bandaid if you're not in water. It will tear hair out. If you submerse yourself in a lake or take a shower, it dissolves.

The best way to keep from stinking in hot weather is take multiple showers a day, and take cooler showers.

What do you hunt in florida?

nil8 you are just a wealth of knowladge arent you! lol

[nil8]

I do what I can ben. ;)

Sounds like your hogs are bigger than your deer. That's a large, large boar.

[Ironcat]

It's not amazing... but I was proud of it... Here's a picture of my boar...

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/_ironcat_/boar-maurer204-24-04-am.jpg

...and here's a pic of a BIG Florida pig...

http://www.suwanneeriverranch.com/photos/TrophyBoarDorothyJones.jpg

...and here's a picture of a couple of Florida swamp beasts...

http://www.suwanneeriverranch.com/photos/TrophyBoarJimOtt.jpg

http://www.suwanneeriverranch.com/photos/TrophyHogNathanMonds.jpg

http://www.suwanneeriverranch.com/photos/TrophyBoarTomGHang.jpg

[Zephik]

HOLY GOD DANG MAN! Those boars are unreal! Since when have dinosaurs start to walk the earth again?? lol

Didn't you kill your pig with a knife? ...or was that a dream I had? lol

[nil8]

Those don't look like the kind of creatures I'd want to run into. I'll stick to fishing. The worst a fish can do is give a good gash if you don't handle them properly. Boars of that size are going to be tenacious and dangerous.

[Airbozo]

Those boars are HUGE! I got tree'd by pack of wild boars before, but now I feel like a sissy because they were quite small...

I used to "hunt" pigs when I was a young kid. Although our version of "hunting" was heading out to the Uncles farm, chase down the pig we wanted and mark it with a red X. I think it was more fun for the adults...

Hey Ironcat, nice to know a fellow squid! Electronic Warfare here...

nil8: Yeah fishing is safer, depending on the target. Last year a guy was dragged off a sport fishing boat (broke the strap from what I understand), and was quickly pulled under by a marlin. They never found his body.

[nil8]

I don't live near an ocean. I live in the midwest.
I don't even do boat fishing. I do lake and stream fishing. I prefer trout or catfish.
Neither of those has any chance dragging me under. The state max is well under anything that could drag me to a watery grave.

[Airbozo]

I don't live near an ocean. I live in the midwest.
I don't even do boat fishing. I do lake and stream fishing. I prefer trout or catfish.
Neither of those has any chance dragging me under. The state max is well under anything that could drag me to a watery grave.

Hehe, I saw a discovery show that showed a picture of a HUGE catfish more than capable of dragging under a human. Supposing of course you had the adequate test line and were not smart enough to let go of the fishing pole...

I also prefer stream fishing. The only time I have ever gone ocean fishing and actually caught something was in Alaska. Pulled up a monster halibut. They have to shoot those things with a shotgun to kill them! I did have help pulling that fish up though so can't take full credit. I thought I had a big fish until we took it to the local shop to have it filleted, frozen and shipped to my house. When I was picking up my prepared fish another guy cam in with a halibut in the back of his truck. Took 5 guys to get it into the shop!

[nil8]

Yea, but those big catfish are rare except in massive lakes and rarely near the shoreline.

There is another way to catch catfish. It's using your hand as bait, running it into crevices underwater and hoping a catfish will bite your hand. Then you struggle with it until you can bring it up. A few people have died from it. A lot of people have gotten stiches because they try to grab the inside of the gills and they are razor sharp. I can't remember the name of the sport, but it's huge in Oklahoma.

I've never had halibut. How does it taste?

Largest fish I've ever caught was around 10lbs.

[ReignInPain]

Back to the weather: Its getting colder in the Uk! Froze me nads off today!! If only I lived in Devon... I could grab myself a nice new free BMW bike! :)

[DaveW]

Haha...

You think it's cold in London? Try Glasgow! I de-iced my car this morning, got in, sprayed the windows to clear the crap, and watched as the window cleaning fluid actually started to freeze on my window. It's supposed to freeze at -8, bought it from Halfords. It was at most -4 or so, so i guess that was a load of balls.

-Dave

[ReignInPain]

Damn those Nothern Winds! My car hates the cold! Makes awful noises. I want it to sonw though, then I can ski!!!

[Ironcat]

Yea, but those big catfish are rare except in massive lakes and rarely near the shoreline.

You'd be surprised at how many there actually are... and they live all over the shoreline. Trees, timber, structure, that's the place you're gonna get your bigger cats, and they LOVE fast moving water cuz they can sit still and let food come to them.


There is another way to catch catfish. It's using your hand as bait, running it into crevices underwater and hoping a catfish will bite your hand. Then you struggle with it until you can bring it up. A few people have died from it. A lot of people have gotten stiches because they try to grab the inside of the gills and they are razor sharp. I can't remember the name of the sport, but it's huge in Oklahoma.

It's called noodling and it's actually illegal in most places. People who do it the right way are called "noodlers", people who do it the wrong way and grab an alligator snapping turtle are called "nubbins", people who really really do it the wrong way and grab a 6' moccasin while they are under water are called "dead".

[nil8]

I didn't know it was illegal. Definitely not the smartest way to catch a catfish.
Sounds idiotic. What kind of redneck decided to forgo the fishing line and stink bait in favor of your own fingers?

[OvRiDe]

I can't remember the name of the sport, but it's huge in Oklahoma.

What kind of redneck decided to forgo the fishing line and stink bait in favor of your own fingers?

Hey now.. be careful there.. Missouri borders Arkansas too!! :D

I have seen some pretty big Catfish that that were pulled out noodling, but I have never actually witnessed anyone doing it. I pretty much agree that I will stick to a good ole fashion pole and some stink bait... ;)

[nil8]

I know people in MO do it too. I've only seen guys doing it in OK though, while I was there on a fishing trip.

Pole and stink bait works. Biggest catfish I ever got was coming out of a dam, he was about 6 pounds.

[SgtM]

Noodling was also featured on Dirty Jobs on the Discovery Channel. If it wasn't for that channel, I probably wouldn't watch TV.

[Airbozo]

Oklahoma... sheesh.. Don't get me started on THOSE hoosiers...
... Now that there are no unions in Texas (right to work state) ...

-Jeremy

California is a "right to work" state too. There are still unions. In the California Teachers Association, you have the right "not" to join the union, but you still have to pay dues. Same thing when I was in the IBEW low voltage section. You had the right to not join the union, but the dues were still deducted from your pay, so the union bosses could go play golf and come up with stupid rules as to when you _had_ to take lunch or breaks. They say it is because they still negotiate for your benefits and wages. If you ask me I could do a better job of negotiating my own pay and benefits thank you and would do a better job of it without a doubt. I say go back to actually _earning_ your raise and negotiate your own benefits based on your talent and not be dragged down by someone who does less work and gets the same pay...


Back to the topic; It has been below freezing at my house every night for almost 3 weeks now. We usually get maybe 3 nights below freezing the whole year. We are not able to find the wood pellets for our main source of heat, so the furnace has been cranked up for a while now (just while we are there). We are out in the boonies with only electric and water hookups so we use propane and propane accessories for heating hot water and cooking. Adding the heater to the bill cost us $250/mo for propane when it is usually ~$70. and $40/mo for wood pellets (if that). Sheesh, I left Colorado because of the cold....

[simon275]

From climate to hunting to the clas sstruggle. I was away for 2 days and look what happened.

*Gets out big stick

[klingelton]

how to cock for my self,

*snigger* :)

[simon275]

Man I had to exersize self restraint when I saw that one.

[nil8]

English isn't GT's first language. Mistakes happen. How well do you get by in Japanese, Spanish, German, Polish, Czech, Russian, Farci or Cantonese? Alright then. He does a decent job all things considered.

Our long-winded discussions will change course in a day or so and who knows where it will head. *cough*food*cough*

Speaking of food, I make a surprisingly good tofu lasagna while I was staying with a friend. It still needs some tweaking, but I was pleasantly surprised. I rarely use tofu and don't know how it works as a food medium quite yet.

[Ironcat]

Tofu lasagna???

That's just wrong... on many levels...

[simon275]

I had so much Tofu in Japan by the end I was like screw the local food big mac time. Do share your recipe nil8.

I know I can't speak any language but it is still funny but.

[Airbozo]

English isn't GT's first language. Mistakes happen. How well do you get by in Japanese, Spanish, German, Polish, Czech, Russian, Farci or Cantonese? Alright then. He does a decent job all things considered.

I work with a Vietnamese immigrant, and when I started he used to always apologize for his english, I used to say "no problem it's a hell of a lot better than my vietamese..."

Our long-winded discussions will change course in a day or so and who knows where it will head. *cough*food*cough*

(don't choke there...)

Speaking of food, I make a surprisingly good tofu lasagna while I was staying with a friend. It still needs some tweaking, but I was pleasantly surprised. I rarely use tofu and don't know how it works as a food medium quite yet.

Tofu = sponge

Use it to your advantage. I have never used it for lasagna but have made some pretty impressive vegetarian chili with it. I also have a great recipe for a smoked tofu sandwich. Best trick I have found with tofu is marinade. In the case of the lasagna marinade it in some of the sauce you will use or a flavor you want to impart on the dish. If you want to simulate the texture of meat with tofu, freeze it first, then crumble it. Just don't let it stay in the freezer too long or it will resemble shredded foam.

I am a carnivore cooking for a vegetarian that does not like tofu or any of the other tree hugger staples, so I get creative. Have you ever heard of "Tater-Tachos"? (nacho's with tater tots instead of chips).

I make a real mean soufflé too. Savory or sweet.

[nil8]

I'm a meat eater as well. I just like to explore other options. Full proteins are important for the body. I'm just looking for ways to keep fat down, salt down, flavor up and still create good food. It's the reason I prefer game to store-bought beef.

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Tofu-Lasagna/Detail.aspx
I used a recipe off allrecipes.com as a base. They try to use nutmeg to flavor the tofu and make it taste like meat. It doesn't work. The tofu worked well as a substitute for ricotta cheese, but it lacked flavor. Texture was perfect, but the only flavor was from the noodles and sauce. I also had to use more sauce than they recipe recommends.

If tofu absorbs flavor, can it be soaked in a stock without problems? I'm using hard tofu btw. The soft stuff is much more like jelly and I'm not a huge fan.

A smoked tofu sandwich? That I'm interested in.
While I'm at it, does anyone know of a good beginner cookbook for thai and vietnamese food? I'm in love with both and I rarely go out to eat.

I've never heard of Tater-Tachos. Please elaborate.

If you want to know of a 'wrong' recipe I've made that I liked, it was deer gyoza with homemade dipping sauce.

Good for you bozo. I'm glad I'm not the only person on this forum that's interested in no meat or low meat alternative cooking. Plus, you have much more experience at it & training. I might pick your brain or shoot you a message from time to time with questions or ideas.