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progbuddy
01-24-2007, 04:51 PM
will it work? lol. I was going to use two P4's (ones missing many pins, the other is missing one which is an easier fix).
ReignInPain
01-24-2007, 04:59 PM
No. Dual core is one processor, that has the capability of running twice as much information.
Edit: Making a dual processor set up can be very expensive, and you'll have to hunt for a motherboard. Are both the processors the same?
If you read what I put before, I ****ed up..ignore ;)
My guess... neither. Since pins are missing, it's going to be VERY hard to fix them. Trust me, I've tried. I would be interested in knowing if it works though. Keep us updated.
progbuddy
01-24-2007, 08:21 PM
I mean litterally two cores with the CPU wires microsoldered to one another (if its the kind of core i believe it is with wires and such running from the pins to the core and heat transfer). It would be like having two processors, but in one single housing. I might be able to lower the voltages and clocks on both to produce stable temps on my Viarama mobo (it would be 3.2 GHz combined, but maybe run it at 2.5 underclocked?). I don't know if it would work (Ill know if I hear the annoying piezo speaker). If so, it wouldnt be a loss, as I got 3 1.6 GHz processors from someone (will be using 2, leaves me with one, lol) and I currently am running a 1.8 GHz celeron.
EDIT: as for the broken pin, I have just the person as my neighbor to fix it <pro solderer/>.
I mean litterally two cores with the CPU wires microsoldered to one another (if its the kind of core i believe it is with wires and such running from the pins to the core and heat transfer). It would be like having two processors, but in one single housing. I might be able to lower the voltages and clocks on both to produce stable temps on my Viarama mobo (it would be 3.2 GHz combined, but maybe run it at 2.5 underclocked?). I don't know if it would work (Ill know if I hear the annoying piezo speaker). If so, it wouldnt be a loss, as I got 3 1.6 GHz processors from someone (will be using 2, leaves me with one, lol) and I currently am running a 1.8 GHz celeron.
EDIT: as for the broken pin, I have just the person as my neighbor to fix it <pro solderer/>.
Cool.. then it sounds like you are all set. I'm not sure how it would work, cuz I never tried it, but that doesn't mean it can't be done right? Good luck with it. Keep us updated.
GT40_GearHead
01-25-2007, 03:09 AM
i'm not shure is posible
how would the northbridge cope with it, if you manage to foul it in to thinking its one cpu it migh work...
BUT you have to fead them both, AND i'm not shure if the power regulator on the mobo will cope
progbuddy
01-25-2007, 04:40 PM
It should handle the amperage. If not, the CPU alarm will go off and I can turn it off, put in my third CPU and set the voltage a little lower to give it a little more amperage.
john_smith_scot
02-14-2007, 07:53 PM
Best of luck to you on this but I gotta be honest, it sounds like you are taking something that is actually quite complicated and trying to do it in a very simple way...how is the os going to handle this? First its got to recognise that are two (the mb drivers probably wont support that, so custom drivers will need to be written) then its got to identify the two processors (which will have conflicting interupts on every channel) then its got to assign the tasks at thread or process level...as I said, best of luck, if you get this working you are a f****** genius and hats off to you, but...
Anyways keep us updated
lg9142
02-28-2007, 01:54 AM
Thats very similar to how some early dual-core processors worked. The Pentium D is essentialy 2 early Pentium 4's though they share certain components.
CanaBalistic
02-28-2007, 02:12 AM
Thats not going to work at all. Sorry to put it so bluntly.
Problem 1. Two proc's are going to require twice as much power. The chance that an older mobo will be able to supply double its normal output is nill to none.
Problem 2. If you connect the proc's pin to pin and feed the same information into them, you'll get the same output. If it boots at all, it should be no faster than a single processor computer.
Problem 3. You'd have to design and build your own northbridge in order for the computer to recognize the second cpu as a second core and not as a clone of the first.
I'd advise against trying. You might get a dazzling fireworks display aswell as char broiled house.
Nagoshi
02-28-2007, 07:51 AM
Best of luck to you on this but I gotta be honest, it sounds like you are taking something that is actually quite complicated and trying to do it in a very simple way...how is the os going to handle this? First its got to recognise that are two (the mb drivers probably wont support that, so custom drivers will need to be written) then its got to identify the two processors (which will have conflicting interupts on every channel) then its got to assign the tasks at thread or process level...as I said, best of luck, if you get this working you are a f****** genius and hats off to you, but...
Anyways keep us updated
Actually, the CPU doesn't share any resources with any other components in the computer (i looked in ardware manager), but my guess is that it won't even detect two CPUs... it's like if you try to put two USB devices in one, the USBs won't be detected and that'd screw up your USB controller because you need an additionnal controller to have more USB devices, instead of cutting up your actual wire and soldering two USB wires on it, that just won't work and you may blow up your USB controller with that.
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