B-B-B-Bondo question

[Drew]

Hullo peeps.

Everyone uses bondo right?

I'm UK and guess that bondo is automotive body filler, right?

If so, is this the only kind of filler that can be used? I only ask 'cos I've found a cheeeeeeeep supply of the filler that is used in walls and wood and was wondering if it'd work.

Just a bit worried about any flex issues.

Anything I should watch out for if I go with it?

Cheers ppl.

[Spawn-Inc]

I'm UK and guess that bondo is automotive body filler, right?

If so, is this the only kind of filler that can be used? I only ask 'cos I've found a cheeeeeeeep supply of the filler that is used in walls and wood and was wondering if it'd work.


when you say wood and walls do you mean wood filler and dry wall compound? if so i would use either i'm not sure how well they will work with metal. i have used fiber glass filler/bondo (i'm not sure if bondo and fiber glass filler are the same but i think its close). i had to patch some minor holes in a canoe and my only problem, isn't really a problem, is that it hardens fast. but that can be ajusted by how much hardener you use.

[Ichbin]

Yea, you want autobody filler. not the wood/plaster stuff.

[xRyokenx]

You're referring to what here in the US is called "spackle," right? I highly doubt that it would... it would probably end up chipping off really easy and having a crappy texture, etc.

[sirkillalot617]

P38 is the uks bondo You can buy it in most halfords

[progbuddy]

You're referring to what here in the US is called "spackle," right? I highly doubt that it would... it would probably end up chipping off really easy and having a crappy texture, etc.


Spackle is the drywall crap. We have two big buckets full of it for our upstairs game room (under construction). Also, Bondo is for automotives, and is specifically made to hold acrylic paints (spackle is for latex) and primers. Also, you may be able to find an alternative at most auto body repair shops (here its ace hardware, lowes, Gary's auto body, etc.).

[xmastree]

P38 is the uks bondo You can buy it in most halfords

Ah yes, good old Isopon (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10151&productId=167503&categoryId=70054). That stuff's been around for years.

[Drew]

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[xRyokenx]

That movie looked rather retarded, so I didn't go see it, but I've seen a couple clips, and as disturbing as they are, they're funny.

[Drew]

I haven't seen it either, but the retardedness is what appeals.

Does that make me a retard? :?

[xmastree]

Does that make me a retard? :?Only if it doesn't make you laugh... :devious:

[Crimson Sky]

I get a gallon of body filler here for about $15--its not expensive stuff if you buy the lesser known brands

[Spawn-Inc]

does bondo have fiber glass in it?

[Drew]

From what I can make out - and a bit of time in body repair...

Bondo - Like P38 - Just like a smooth, completely opaque pinkish filler.

Fibreglass filler - Like P40 - A more translucent filler with shreds of fibreglass in it. Much stronger, and completely different (much harder to sand).

Correct?

[Spawn-Inc]

sounds like it make sense to me.i haven't used bondo then just the fiberglass filler. when i patched up a leak on my canoe with it. it didn't seem to hard to sand but i didn't just glob it on though i made it as smooths as i could so i wouldn't have to sand to much.

[Ichbin]

Since this is the bondo asking thread. I would shoot for p38 grade correct? Easier to work with?

[DaveW]

Stay away from the stuff in my worklog. It's not nice to work with.

-Dave

[Crimson Sky]

There are in fact, several grades of body filler--Some are very hard to sand, and are meant to be used underneath a more easily sanded grade to create super smooth surfaces. Not sure of the names of these grades. But DO stay away from those containing fiberglass, unless you need to fill a large area and plan on putting a sandable grade on top.

[Omega]

I get a gallon of body filler here for about $15--its not expensive stuff if you buy the lesser known brands

Any examples? It was damn near 15$ for 500kg of Bondo at the local Lowes.


Sidenote: Bondo is kind of a pain to work with, but Fiberglass would be much harder. Much, much, much harder.

[Bucko]

It was damn near 15$ for 500kg of Bondo

Wow! That's cheap for so much! I guess a rig using that much bondo wouldn't be taken a LAN party in a hurry.... :p

[Zephik]

Isn't that like 1,000 pounds?

[xRyokenx]

Yes, it is, that'd be a freakin' crapload of bondo... what're you going to do with it? Build a house? Make a replica of the Statue of Liberty that's the same exact size? Just kidding, gotta add some humor. :D

[Crimson Sky]

Any examples? It was damn near 15$ for 500kg of Bondo at the local Lowes.


Sidenote: Bondo is kind of a pain to work with, but Fiberglass would be much harder. Much, much, much harder.


I got it at a local autobody shop. I don't remember the brand

[Spawn-Inc]

well like i said before it wasn't that hard for me when i worked with the fiber glass filler. the hardest part for me was getting the right amount of hardener:fiberglass ratio proper so you have some time to work with it before it hardens. i was in my garage and i spotted a paint can size thing of bondo right next to the fiber glass filler. i might pull it out and give it a try. does it require hardener?

[Crimson Sky]

well like i said before it wasn't that hard for me when i worked with the fiber glass filler. the hardest part for me was getting the right amount of hardener:fiberglass ratio proper so you have some time to work with it before it hardens. i was in my garage and i spotted a paint can size thing of bondo right next to the fiber glass filler. i might pull it out and give it a try. does it require hardener?


Oh yeah...they all require hardener. Each brand is pretty picky about what type you use.

[Spawn-Inc]

well i will have to go to work and find out which to use with which. thats where my brother got them for free :)

which were at it where would you find plexi glass or some kind of clear material. and how/ what do you use to join them without bolts, nuts, and screws. super glue?

[Drew]

which were at it where would you find plexi glass or some kind of clear material. and how/ what do you use to join them without bolts, nuts, and screws. super glue?



What?

:p

[Ichbin]

I think hes trying to say "Where do i find acrylix, and how do I put them together without using any visible hardware (IE:Bolts and screws)

You can find acrylic usuallly at your local hardware store (HD).
As for conjoining them, I dont know, I don't really mess with acrylic all that much, but I would GUESS to use epoxy to glue them together.

[Drew]

You're good....

[Bucko]

Just a quick tip on mixing Bondo and hardener.
Now, of course, read the instructions, but I normally don't.
Most want the hardener mixed with the Bondo at a ratio of 1 part hardener to 50 parts Bondo.
Normally when you buy the smaller tins of Bondo, the hardener is a smaller tube and the hardener comes out at about the thickness of a match.
I try and work out about how many matchboxes worth of Bondo I have, then ad that many "matches" of hardener.

Seems to work well with most of them.

[Spawn-Inc]

I think hes trying to say "Where do i find acrylix, and how do I put them together without using any visible hardware (IE:Bolts and screws)

You can find acrylic usuallly at your local hardware store (HD).
As for conjoining them, I dont know, I don't really mess with acrylic all that much, but I would GUESS to use epoxy to glue them together.

Yes thank you for decoding my bad english. it was lateish and i was tired. Is there a difference between acrylix and plexi glass?

+ rep for english

[Ichbin]

You're good....

I deal with germans trying to speak english all the time, lol....Ive gotten good at forming sentences from putty.


Yes thank you for decoding my bad english. it was lateish and i was tired. Is there a difference between acrylix and plexi glass?


They are the same thing.