Bugatti Veyron + Rich Saudi Arabian Guy = SWEET

[Indybird]

Im sure most of you have heard of the bugatti veyron (if you havent click here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron))
Im also sure that after the first time you heard about it you thought it was one of the sweetest cars ever. Well Im going to fuel that thought by showing you two of the sweetest videos ever:
Saudi Arabian Rich Guy Test Drive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1guIg354BdE)
-or-
Top speed test drive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V27CgobKJHw&mode=related&search=)

Hope you enjoy

[AJ@PR]

My god...

[xmastree]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6423241.stm

[GT40_GearHead]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6423241.stm

my heart broke when i saw that pic a few days ago !
the ugly bug was dead

I always feel sad when i see a nice car totaled :(

[Crimson Sky]

That was some insane speeds. OMG.

[Durrthock]

WOAH a football field a second.
This one made me sad
http://wagonlog.com/wp-content/photos/ferrari_enzo_crash_mercedes_slr.jpg

[GT40_GearHead]

WOAH a football field a second.
This one made me sad
http://wagonlog.com/wp-content/photos/ferrari_enzo_crash_mercedes_slr.jpg

modern tech at work ! the engine left the car, taking with him a big part of the energy the crash generated

[progbuddy]

That's not much horsepower pushing that car. It's just the way it was designed to make it streamlined. Here's a couple of my personal favorite videos.

Holy Turbo of God:
Link (http://videos.streetfire.net/hottestvideos/2/2e6abcc3-6a2c-4468-80a8-36af4dd0584e.htm)
That turbo looks like a laser cannon...


2,000 horsepower Nelson:
Link (http://videos.streetfire.net/toprated/0/6024e70a-9390-4ae9-8470-980a00f132ff.htm)
That one made me **** my pants when it started. lol

EDIT:

Watch the tubes glow orange...
Link (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/660f936e-5722-4e34-b700-649d7b4b25a9.htm)

[d_stilgar]

I like how in the video, the Saudi guy passes another Bugatti on his way out. Did anyone else see that? That's the guy we buy oil from.

[Durrthock]

Bugatti is cool and all but it ain't nothing compared to the nitro drags of the jet cars ive seen both Nitro drags have 2500hp calculated (they don't measure that high.) and the big time nitros have 6000hp (john force cars) And the jet cars have well a jet engine in the middle they have hit 300mph
Ive seen this one
http://www.newenglanddragway.com/photos/images/jetcars/JEFA7E~1.JPG
At that place too.

[Crimson Sky]

Bugatti is cool and all but it ain't nothing compared to the nitro drags of the jet cars ive seen both Nitro drags have 2500hp calculated (they don't measure that high.) and the big time nitros have 6000hp (john force cars) And the jet cars have well a jet engine in the middle they have hit 300mph
Ive seen this one
http://www.newenglanddragway.com/photos/images/jetcars/JEFA7E~1.JPG
At that place too.

Yeh but you cant pick up a chic in a nitro funny car and go get a slurpee. Its more about speed, comfort and style, not flat out hp.

[progbuddy]

Yeh but you cant pick up a chic in a nitro funny car and go get a slurpee. Its more about speed, comfort and style, not flat out hp.

ROFL. This reminds me of Dane Cook:

Quote:

"Let's go get some chicks, dude. Lets get chicks!"


I like the style of the Bugatti veyron. All it needs is a centrifugal supercharger and its set :p.

<slurpee sounds good :D/>

[Crimson Sky]

That's not much horsepower pushing that car. It's just the way it was designed to make it streamlined. Here's a couple of my personal favorite videos.

Holy Turbo of God:
Link (http://videos.streetfire.net/hottestvideos/2/2e6abcc3-6a2c-4468-80a8-36af4dd0584e.htm)
That turbo looks like a laser cannon...


2,000 horsepower Nelson:
Link (http://videos.streetfire.net/toprated/0/6024e70a-9390-4ae9-8470-980a00f132ff.htm)
That one made me **** my pants when it started. lol

EDIT:

Watch the tubes glow orange...
Link (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/660f936e-5722-4e34-b700-649d7b4b25a9.htm)

they will not do 253 MPH and live to tell about it--just some grease monkeys in a garage with too much turbo. It would leave the ground or disintergrate. The Bugatti rides at 253 as if on rails.

[progbuddy]

they will not do 253 MPH and live to tell about it--just some grease monkeys in a garage with too much turbo. It would leave the ground or disintergrate. The Bugatti rides at 253 as if on rails.

I don't think the Bugatti would survive a 1/4 mile either.

link (http://videos.streetfire.net/toprated/3/bca78155-5b7e-4a33-a5c2-9841015e9516.htm)

[Crimson Sky]

yeah its not set up for the 1/4. But it does it in about 8 seconds at 155mph ;)

[simon275]

I was just sitting there going :eek:

Zero to 400 km/h: 55 s 8)

I love that a special key that lowers the car and makes it more aero dynamic. I swear if that car hit a 50c piece sitting on the road it would go into orbit.

Also what gets me is. It is faster then an F1 car but has air con, Stereo and a boot to.

The problem with a car like that is you would go through tires so quickly. But I guess if you can afford the car you can afford new tires every week.

Any one got any spare change for the buy Simon a Bugatti fund?

https://www.paypal.com/en_US/i/btn/x-click-but21.gif

[Crimson Sky]

It would be cheaper to buy Bugatti a Simon.

[simon275]

It would be cheaper to buy Bugatti a Simon.

I am priceless :D

[GT40_GearHead]

i heard someone say, the Veyron does not have a lot of horsepower.... it has 1001 hp !!! don't you think that is enough, for a drivable car

oh simon, its not faster than a an F1 car, yeah it may go to 400+ km/h, but it will not go around a corner as fast as an F1 car ! its not all about top speed

put the veyron and an F1 car on a track, and the one seater will run circles around the angry bug

[simon275]

i heard someone say, the Veyron does not have a lot of horsepower.... it has 1001 hp !!! don't you think that is enough, for a drivable car

oh simon, its not faster than a an F1 car, yeah it may go to 400+ km/h, but it will not go around a corner as fast as an F1 car ! its not all about top speed

put the veyron and an F1 car on a track, and the one seater will run circles around the angry bug

I guess that is true. On a F1 track a F1 would be able to keep a higher overall speed while the Veyron would only be good on the straight.

[GT40_GearHead]

and one other thing

a F1 engine is restricted to 3 liters natural aspirated and 1.5 liters if its forced induction (turbo or super charging)
So a F1 v12 engine puts out roughly 800 hp from 3 liters of fuel

they veyron needs w16 with 4 turbo chargers to make 1001 hp

just to get it into perspective

[progbuddy]

and one other thing

a F1 engine is restricted to 3 liters natural aspirated and 1.5 liters if its forced induction (turbo or super charging)
So a F1 v12 engine puts out roughly 800 hp from 3 liters of fuel

they veyron needs w16 with 4 turbo chargers to make 1001 hp

just to get it into perspective

Its because the F1 cars use such a small V12 engine (easy to cool, lots of hp) that it only uses 3 liters. I think it would be fun to mod the Bugatti though <money/> :D

[simon275]

Thing is F1 engines are so light they only last one race apparently.

So the Veyron is heavy car with a heavyier engine one that is made to last.

I love that. At 400km/h the tyres last 50mins. But the fuel only lasts another 13mins. lol

[GT40_GearHead]

progbuddy, did you say small .....?

is this small enough (http://videos.streetfire.net/toprated/3/2121aa46-58d2-43cf-8f85-98570153b3d6.htm) :D:D

[AJ@PR]

wOW... I have to post here... lots of interesting comments....

PLUS I'm an F1 freak.
F.r.e.a.k.



i heard someone say, the Veyron does not have a lot of horsepower.... it has 1001 hp !!! don't you think that is enough, for a drivable car

oh simon, its not faster than a an F1 car, yeah it may go to 400+ km/h, but it will not go around a corner as fast as an F1 car ! its not all about top speed

put the veyron and an F1 car on a track, and the one seater will run circles around the angry bug
They Veyron does have 1k bhp... but it consumes aproximately 2000 hp cooling the engine. Yeah, I'm not ****ing around.
Between water pumps, oil pumps, fans for the water radiators, oil radiators, etc etc... there goes 2000 hp in cooling. COOLING!

So, if you think about it, the engine makes around 3000hp.
It's absurd, really.
Fun.
I love engineering.


Fast. Quick. Terminology.
Depends on which F1 track...
I'm positive the Veyron will woop an 2007 F1's ass around the Nurburghring [sp?].
Around a smaller track? Say, Monaco?
Damn straight the F1 will woop the Veyron.

"angry bug" LOL LOL LOL
Bugatti was such a great company.

Ettore Bugatti, when asked why he didn't install hydrualic brakes in his cars, is quoted as replying

I don't build my cars for stopping. I build them for going.
Damn straight.

He drove his company two times to the ground.
He was really an artist that made cars.
Not much of an engineer, if you ask me.


I guess that is true. On a F1 track a F1 would be able to keep a higher overall speed while the Veyron would only be good on the straight.
The key element here is weight.
The Veyron weights a freaking ****load, compared to an F1 car.

Colin Chapman (w00t Brits!), is quoted:::

For speed and agility, add lightness.
I love that quote.
(for those of you that don't know, Mr. Chapman founded nothing less that Lotus Cars... ohh sweet Europas.)


and one other thing

a F1 engine is restricted to 3 liters natural aspirated and 1.5 liters if its forced induction (turbo or super charging)
So a F1 v12 engine puts out roughly 800 hp from 3 liters of fuel

they veyron needs w16 with 4 turbo chargers to make 1001 hp

just to get it into perspective
This is in the spirit of TBCS, no flame-wars... just discussion.
GT40, where you get that?
If I'm not mistaken, the 2007 rules for F1 have V8 engines.
F1 hasn't used V12 since... uff... various years (half a decade?).
And they don't permit turbo and/or supercharging (officially called SuperTurboCharging).

For example, if given the choice between a 3liter aspirated, and a 1.5 boosted, I'd go with the boosted any freaking day of the century.
Slap a three-phase turbo system in there, and produce what? 60? 80? 120 psi of boost?
google when possible, "F1 turbo era".
You'll see engines under 1.3 liters (that's 1,300 cc people!!!) making OVER 1,500 HP in qualifying trim.

ANOTHER point:::
Last year, F1 placed new rules that would have you use the same engine, tires and setup that you used in Qualifying, for the start of the race.
This is an important point, because before, F1 had basically two cars.
The Qualifying cars, and the Race cars.

The Qualifying cars were an ENTIRELY different beast than the Race car.
Smaller brakes (wouldn't last 4 laps)... smaller air ducts (not much cooling, but less drag).
Higher downforce...
Different engine maps/software settings.
Different shocks/springs.
Different tires.
Smaller fuel tank.
Etc.
etc. etc. etc. etc. and etc. for ever and ever.

So, the 800hp could be the race car... but those figures are HIGHLY guarded.
Case-in-Point::: Ferrari supplies engines to Renault, but if Renault so much as turns/loosens one of the restricted nuts/bolts of that engine, they're going to get a legal ass whoopin'.
Basically, Renault is running engines that they can't open up.

Although the F1 makes more power with less displacement, and no turbos, you have to keep in mind that the Veyron CAN (yes, yes, it CAN) be used as a Daily Driver.
I would HARDLY call an F1 car a daily driver (crap... with a 5,500 RPM IDLE speed!).

They Veyron will last years... the F1... it doesn't last 1.003 races.


Its because the F1 cars use such a small V12 engine (easy to cool, lots of hp) that it only uses 3 liters. I think it would be fun to mod the Bugatti though <money/> :D
Again, I don't think F1 has used a V12 engine configuration for over half a decade.
And I *think* the displacement limit on the V10s was 2.9 liters... I am really not sure about that figure.
As to cooling, maybe you ain't aware of it, but did you know that, the hotter you can run an engine, the more efficient it'll be? The more power it'll produce?
Problem is, damaging the parts... and isolating the intake air and fuel from the high temps.
But ideally, damn, we'd be running engines at 1,500 degrees.


progbuddy, did you say small .....?

is this small enough (http://videos.streetfire.net/toprated/3/2121aa46-58d2-43cf-8f85-98570153b3d6.htm) :D:D

That was fun! Wow.


Anyways, that's the end of my rant.
If I'm wrong in something, by all means, please correct me. :)

w00000t !!!!!
I love F1!!!!

[progbuddy]

progbuddy, did you say small .....?

is this small enough (http://videos.streetfire.net/toprated/3/2121aa46-58d2-43cf-8f85-98570153b3d6.htm) :D:D

lol i saw that before. Did you say small? XD. Look at this. It hauls ass w/ a motorcycle engine.

Link (http://videos.streetfire.net/toprated/0/c984df9c-c21b-4756-9513-980c011bd80f.htm)

[xmastree]

I think you're all missing the point. Sure, dragsters, F1 cars, etc. etc.

But the veyron is a production car. Take all your racing cars out of the equation and what do you have to compare it with?

[progbuddy]

I think you're all missing the point. Sure, dragsters, F1 cars, etc. etc.

But the veyron is a production car. Take all your racing cars out of the equation and what do you have to compare it with?

Mercedez Benz SLR McLaren

[AJ@PR]

Mercedez Benz SLR McLaren

Sorry Prog... but the SLR doesn't even come close to the Bugs.

Not in top speed... not in sheer power.

Heck, placed by the side of the Bugatti, the SLR looks like a regular, off-the-mill MB.

Maybe the McLaren F1.

Just my opinion prog! :)

[progbuddy]

Sorry Prog... but the SLR doesn't even come close to the Bugs.

Not in top speed... not in sheer power.

Heck, placed by the side of the Bugatti, the SLR looks like a regular, off-the-mill MB.

Maybe the McLaren F1.

Just my opinion prog! :)

I could name a few cars that would come close:

-Ford GT (NOT the mustang GT) w/ Boss 302

-Saleen S7

-Ferrari 599


P.S. My favorite badass car is the new Skyline GT-R.

http://www.automotivearticles.com/uploads/image_5.jpg
http://paultan.org/wp-content/skyline_gtr_proto_3.jpg
http://paultan.org/wp-content/skyline_gtr_proto_2.jpg

[GT40_GearHead]

They Veyron does have 1k bhp... but it consumes aproximately 2000 hp cooling the engine. Yeah, I'm not ****ing around.
Between water pumps, oil pumps, fans for the water radiators, oil radiators, etc etc... there goes 2000 hp in cooling. COOLING!

isn't it ironic... the damn thing has 11 radiators

So, if you think about it, the engine makes around 3000hp.
It's absurd, really.
Fun.
I love engineering.

me too :D

....... a very nice read....


This is in the spirit of TBCS, no flame-wars... just discussion.
GT40, where you get that?

I know, i have some explaining to do..:D

If I'm not mistaken, the 2007 rules for F1 have V8 engines.
F1 hasn't used V12 since... uff... variou............................................ .......................................




to start this... first i must say +rep for a great post !

now when I said the stuff about v12, 3 litre, turbocahrging, i was talking about the old times

i wanted to cut a long story short, what you said 100% corect, is just i'm not a F1 guru... (you freak :D), and i was not shure about the 2007, or for that fact the 2006 rule book


so no problem, you rock, thanks for all the info


now, you said you are pro forced-induction.... why ?

you create a LOT of problem with every gain in boost, you need a lot of new systems like inter cooling, oil system for the turbos and the bigest(?)... TURBO LAG


i promise to continue this discussion tomorrow its 11:54 PM in here and i need sleep !

[XcOM]

look at it this way, the vayron will been in top speed (ISH)
but by time the vayron has reaced 100MPH the F1 has reached its top speed.

i won't compaire the Ford GT, Built by Europiens

I will say this though, the US can't make a good car to save there life (No offence intedned to yanks)

yes, US make SOME nice looking cards, but we in europe have mastered cars, and to be correct, the US didn't invent the car, the germans did.

Did you know that all of fords high peformance ST and RS cars are build by Volvo, As to are quite a few of touring cars.

Look at it this way, Its not always about power, an Atom has about 1300CC engine, and produces about 200BHp and will kick the ass out of most cars.

May i also add, the last UMTEEN fasted cars in the world have been made by europe.
/Rant

[AJ@PR]

^^^^ Let me finish playing Halo.. and I'll reply... Lord...

[AJ@PR]

look at it this way, the vayron will been in top speed (ISH)
but by time the vayron has reaced 100MPH the F1 has reached its top speed.

F1's top speed is probably around 180ish...
Veyron's is 250ish.

The F1 will reach it first, only to be passed by the Veyron, what? 9 seconds later?



i won't compaire the Ford GT, Built by Europiens
Not entirely true.
Chassis is built in England.
Engines, and the finish of the entire car is built in the USA.
In addition, all other components, are built, engineered, and manufactured in the USA.
:)
So, in recollection, your comment is completely wrong.


I will say this though, the US can't make a good car to save there life (No offence intedned to yanks)
I’ll try to make this comment as easy as possible, because, to be quite honest, IT PISSES ME OFF.

Look, you freaking moron… The UNITED STATED OF AMERICA DID build a car, and it DID save our lives…

And wow, come to think of it, it saved ALL your lives over in Europe. All the lives in Planet Earth!
I don’t know if you’re aware of a little thing called World War II, where TEAM AMERICA, **** YEAH! had to come save the mother****ing world!!!!

It’s called the Jeep Willys… wiki it up some time.
Asshat.

Tell me how Hitler was working out for you.

GRRRRgggrrrRRRRRRR!!!!!
:devious: :devious: :devious:
BAH!!!!!

Next point::::::


yes, US make SOME nice looking cards, but we in europe have mastered cars, and to be correct, the US didn't invent the car, the germans did.
You’ve ‘mastered’ cars?
Hmm… I wonder how you “in europe” have mastered cars more than the people in America… or the people in Japan/Korea.

No… the USA didn’t invent the car.
Your point, is totally moot because,
1st, you brought it up your self.
A self-created ‘comment’ to serve your needs.
2nd, it was Karl Benz that did a tricycle, which is considered the first car in the world.

What the USA did, one-handedly by a guy name Henry Ford (respect!), was to introduce the ‘assembly line’ idea to the manufacturing of vehicles.

Get your history straight, young grasshopper.


Did you know that all of fords high peformance ST and RS cars are build by Volvo, As to are quite a few of touring cars.
Um, what butt-cheek did you pull this one out of? The left, or the right one? Or was it straight out of the hole in your ass? Right besides your head?

Volvo cars, is owned by the PAG – Premiere Automotive Group, which is a Ford company. (PAG = Volvo, Jaguar, Aston Martin)
It doesn’t even MAKE SENSE that Volvo builds the high performance Fords.
Yeah. Right.
Just for the possibility I’m wrong, what cars are the ones you refer to as “ST” and “RS”?
Links? ???

BTW: I’m a Volvo freak.


Look at it this way, Its not always about power, an Atom has about 1300CC engine, and produces about 200BHp and will kick the ass out of most cars.
Look at it this way… An ATOM, is a nice coffin on wheels.

You get hit by a freaking MOTORCYCLE in that thing and there’s a high chance of dying.
It has no air conditioning… no ‘respectable’ safety systems…
It’s a FREAKING KIT CAR!!!
YOU HAVE TO BUILD IT YOUR SELF!
I’ll go to the Chevy dealership, buy a 2007 Z06, and run circles around the “Atom” with my hands clean, and my shirt un-sweaty. Thank you very much.


May i also add, the last UMTEEN fasted cars in the world have been made by europe.
Oh really?
What do you call…
Wait… trying to decode…

“UMTEEN”?
What the hell is ‘umteen’?
Is it a number?
What number? Jesus.

What type of cars?
Production cars?
Speciality cars?
Record breaking cars?
Be specific.

And there’s a difference, btw, between ‘fasted’, ‘fastest’, ‘quickest’, and ‘top speed’.
Get it straight.




/Rant
Thank god for that.

Please don’t ever, ever do that again.


As you can see, my post is relatively pissed-off… But I blew a gasket when you said that we couldn’t build a car to save our lives.
Be more grateful you little low-quality bugger.
Not even a good bugger… no… you’re the type that breaks off in the middle of the pull and does a ‘Cliff Hanger’ between your finger and your nostril.

Sheeshhh…

One thing before I go... please, for the sweet love of the various Virgin Mary's apparitions, work on your grammar. It's horrific. Even if English isn't your 1st language, that isn't an excuse. English isn't MY 1st language, but you don't see me rund rytin holibly rong witut noing stuf.

NOW I can say…

[/AJ@PR’s RANT]

[simon275]

I actually prefer to old looking Skyline. I just think it looks better. There is no denying the new one is curvy and sexyness but the old one just has some charm to it.

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/09/skyline.jpg

[AJ@PR]

to start this... first i must say +rep for a great post !
w00t w00t :D :D
Thanks man :)



now when I said the stuff about v12, 3 litre, turbocahrging, i was talking about the old times

i wanted to cut a long story short, what you said 100% corect, is just i'm not a F1 guru... (you freak :D), and i was not shure about the 2007, or for that fact the 2006 rule book

It's all good. :D It's all good. ;)

Yeah... during the old days, F1 was crazy.
Crazy.

I think I've got all my facts right, but I'm not 100% sure... more like 95%.
So if anybody has any corrections, please feel free to add to the mix! :)



so no problem, you rock, thanks for all the info
w000000t !
Thanks man...
Thank you for liking my ramblings... I though it was written in vain.

It's just that I'm a nerd for wierd datums.
Did you know that F1 cars fill their tires mainly with Nitrogen?
Know why?
Cause if they fill them with air, when the tire gets hot, the water in the air will change phase to vapor... and it'll increase the pressure... and change the characteristics of the tire (shape, rebound, contact patch, etc.)
(( tellin' ya... I'm a nerd ))



now, you said you are pro forced-induction.... why ?

you create a LOT of problem with every gain in boost, you need a lot of new systems like inter cooling, oil system for the turbos and the bigest(?)... TURBO LAG
I completely see, and agree to your point.

Lots of things come by the use of turbos.
Systems like you said (intercoolers, upgraded oil systems, fuel system upgrades, etc.)....
And Turbo Lag, definitely a pain in the ass.

I just picked the boosted engine cause... well, we're in Dreamy Dream Land.
I'd just rather have 80 hp under 5,000 rpm... then suddenly have that spike up to 1,200hp when I cross 5,700 rpm.

But yeah... I'm with you...
Turbo lag isn't something very friendly.

Although, manufacturers constantly make great strides in reducing it (I'm itchin' to test drive the new Porsche Turbo... with them variable cam-lobes, variable intake-length runners, variable-angle valves for the exhaust side of the turbos... etc.



i promise to continue this discussion tomorrow its 11:54 PM in here and i need sleep !
Go sleep my good... I mean, OUR good Aussie friend. :)

We shall speak tomorrow... And I'm guessing you'll have read... erm... um.... "nasty-gram" on top. :D

Love to all.

[Crimson Sky]

The Skyline is very much a badass prod car. Nissans are awesome. My truck has the same 6 cyl VQ35 engine as the Skyline and 350Z (although the Skyline has the upgraded twin turbo VQ35DE )--for an SUV it has lots of balls, even moreso than some V8's.. Also, it's Ward's top 10 engine of the year for 13 years straight. They know engines.

[Indybird]

I know im coming in a bit late but the bugatti veyron is not only designed for sheer speed, the car also has (almost) racing-level handling. The Car & Driver review stated that though it had 1001hp, the rest of its specs kept on par with that. please somebody find that article online for me. My favorite part was when he took it on the Autobahn (is that spelled right?) and waved at a ferrari as he was going 190mph!

[progbuddy]

The Skyline is very much a badass prod car. Nissans are awesome. My truck has the same 6 cyl VQ35 engine as the Skyline and 350Z (although the Skyline has the upgraded twin turbo VQ35DE )--for an SUV it has lots of balls, even moreso than some V8's.. Also, it's Ward's top 10 engine of the year for 13 years straight. They know engines.

I <3 Nissan :D. Also, I agree with AJ@PR. Just gloating about cars in Europe doesn't prove anything. The only car I can see being awesome that actually came from Europe is the TVR Tuscan. Sure they hit high speeds. But WHERE THE HELL in Europe are you going to find a 6 mile straightaway that you can drive 250 MPH? Surely, you can find them here <I-95/>, but nowhere in Europe is there a road with that length (except maybe a test track, if they even have one). Also, don't diss Ford. You have only seen the little small block 4 cylinders over there. I have a 1997 F-350 7.3 liter turbodiesel (525 HP, even more torque). I would like to see a little thing over there pull 18,000 pounds. Fords are built tough, and if you don't like it, deal with it.

Anyways, the F1 does NOT hit only 180 MPH. It so happens to hit 235 MPH.

Quote:
"yes, US make SOME nice looking cards, but we in europe have mastered cars, and to be correct, the US didn't invent the car, the germans did."

Yeah the Germans made autos, that doesn't mean that they MASTERED them. Come over here, and stick yourself behind the wheel of an American car. Until then, your views are considered hypocritical .

[Indybird]

I love all cars; euro, japanese and american. I have to get an american car for my first car because we live near detroit, MI and have to support our state and city.

[XcOM]

Not entirely true.
Chassis is built in England.
Engines, and the finish of the entire car is built in the USA.
In addition, all other components, are built, engineered, and manufactured in the USA.
:)
So, in recollection, your comment is completely wrong.

I am sorry for the comment about "To save your life" but in responce to the Ford GT:


It's billed as the first American supercar, but that's stretching things a bit. I mean, the gearbox is from Ricardo. The body was worked on by Mayflower. The steering rack comes from an Aston Martin Vanquish. Lotus helped out with the chassis. The wheels are from BBS. The brakes are from Brembo. Doesn't sound very American to me.
http://www.topgear.com/drives/B4/XX/roadtests/01/02.html




And wow, come to think of it, it saved ALL your lives over in Europe. All the lives in Planet Earth!
I don’t know if you’re aware of a little thing called World War II, where TEAM AMERICA, **** YEAH! had to come save the mother****ing world!!!!

It’s called the Jeep Willys… wiki it up some time.
Asshat.


Yes the jeap was the most used car in WWII.



BTW: I’m a Volvo freak.

Likewise,


In the Focus ST, that bark comes from a turbocharged 2.5-litre five-cylinder Volvo engine, tuned by Ford's TeamRS to a substantial 221bhp.





Look at it this way… An ATOM, is a nice coffin on wheels.

I'll give you that, it is a accident waiting to happen, 20MPH and your dead.

and as for my english, I am english, dyslexic, and have trouble spelliong, i CBA to spend hald an hour spell checking my posts.

I think this one is correct,

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I agree, i think the old skyline looks SOOOO much nicer than the new one, it looks to short, bonet it too shallow.

[GT40_GearHead]

someone help me !!!

my video card died yesterday, and i have to use an antique "Trident Video Accelerator 9440"

the max rezolution is 640x480,and i cant read or post anything, it distorts everything

can someone help me with some drivers for it, it might work a bit better with some proper drivers


PS: did i mention its PCI :dead:

[Indybird]

Umm, i dont know if you couldnt see but why did you post that here?

Anyways Im sorry but I cant find any drivers fer yer gfx card, good luck w/ that...

[AJ@PR]

I am sorry for the comment about "To save your life" but in responce to the Ford GT:
Thanks for the appology.

As to the Ford... I still stand by that it's american... although it has various parts from all over.

Cool thing you're a Volvo fan.
Own any?
My baby is a 1980 242 GT... in the midst of a engine transplant ('96 Chevy LT1 + Tremec T56).




and as for my english, I am english, dyslexic, and have trouble spelliong, i CBA to spend hald an hour spell checking my posts.
I didn't know that, and it wasn't my intention to make you feel bad.
If I did, I appologize.
I can't judge you in that.
Once I was 'diagnosed' with dyslexia my self, but I didn't pay attention to it, and plowed on through.
I didn't research, so I can't comment on it.
Thank you for putting the effort to write better posts... it's appreciated.




I agree, i think the old skyline looks SOOOO much nicer than the new one, it looks to short, bonet it too shallow.
Same opinion.
I'm not crazy 'bout the Skyline... but the 'older' one does look better to my eyes.


Peace XcOM.
Have a good day.

-AJ@PR

[Maz]

face it, the three sects of cars are as unique to the part of the world they come from.

Japanese: Light usually high rpm, 4 cylinder cars. Meant for ricing out and street racing. The japanese also have a weird fascination with cube cars. toyota is also the leader in kaizen, or lean manufacturing and make some nice cars and trucks.

Europe: (yes, I am lumping you guys together) you build for safety, and lack of it. For example, VW is a very safe car. not a lot of power and great features. while a lotus is a freaking rocket. nobody wants it to explode, but sometimes...

America: Workhorses, I'm going into the realm of trucks and jeeps here. We also have heavy cars with tons of unsophisticated horsepower wrapped in a package that doesn't like taking corners. While Bugatti makes 300 veyrons, we have an entire city devoted to making cars (Detroit motor city). we know our stuff, we have been making our stuff better since the 1900's. what we don't have is billionaires that take risks. less eccentric vehicles are made because of it. however, we do have some like Mike Leeds (http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/jay_leno_garage/1302941.html) who have very little case (comparatively) and make beautiful machines as well as mistakes.

[xmastree]

tons of unsophisticated horsepower wrapped in a package that doesn't like taking corners.That's because you don't have corners out there, do you? :rolleyes:

Many moons ago, I was in Florida driving a rented Cadillac. This had 'active suspension'. This was in the days when the Williams F1 had active suspension, and was winning all the races.
So, I thought I'd see what this active suspension could do...

Coming off a freeway, into a 270° sliproad, I took it without slowing down. The car leaned, then corrected itself after about two seconds. Two Seconds!
As I straightened up, it continued this compensation, causing it to roll the other way, then it settled back to normal after another two seconds...

It felt terrible.

[Omega]

I actually prefer to old looking Skyline. I just think it looks better. There is no denying the new one is curvy and sexyness but the old one just has some charm to it.

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/09/skyline.jpg

Yeah, I like older Skylines too.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Skyline2000gt-x.jpg

That's the 2000GT-X. From the '70's.


The Skyline is very much a badass prod car. Nissans are awesome. My truck has the same 6 cyl VQ35 engine as the Skyline and 350Z (although the Skyline has the upgraded twin turbo VQ35DE )--for an SUV it has lots of balls, even moreso than some V8's.. Also, it's Ward's top 10 engine of the year for 13 years straight. They know engines.

Nissan makes wonderful cars that achieve great things. The VQ series engines (mainly the VQ35DE and VQ35DETT) are great engines with oodles of torque. I got to ride in a top of the line 350z, and it took off like nobody's business.

[xmastree]

(about the crashed Veyron)

my heart broke when i saw that pic a few days ago !
the ugly bug was dead

I always feel sad when i see a nice car totaled :(


Wanna buy a part of it? (http://tinyurl.com/36zo8t)

:dead:

[Bucko]

The Skyline is very much a badass prod car. Nissans are awesome. My truck has the same 6 cyl VQ35 engine as the Skyline and 350Z (although the Skyline has the upgraded twin turbo VQ35DE )--for an SUV it has lots of balls, even moreso than some V8's.. Also, it's Ward's top 10 engine of the year for 13 years straight. They know engines.

From all I've read and seen, the Skyline has a different engine to the 350Z. The Skylines use the RB series in line 6's and the 350Z's engine is the VQ series of V6 engines.

[Crimson Sky]

Nissan makes wonderful cars that achieve great things. The VQ series engines (mainly the VQ35DE and VQ35DETT) are great engines with oodles of torque. I got to ride in a top of the line 350z, and it took off like nobody's business.


Yah the 253 HP VQ35DE (with K&N cold air intake) in my Pathfinder makes for quite some pulling power. I have to remind myself to go easy on the gas when at the lights. I love the look on people's faces when they try to pass on the right--Nissan def put some muscle in the old grocery-getter!

[Crimson Sky]

From all I've read and seen, the Skyline has a different engine to the 350Z. The Skylines use the RB series in line 6's and the 350Z's engine is the VQ series of V6 engines.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_VQ_engine

VQ35DE was used in the 2001 Pathy, the 2002 Skyline 300GT V35, G35 and the 2003 350Z ;) Of course in the sporty cars they are modified and bored out at the factory.

[Bucko]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_VQ_engine

VQ35DE was used in the 2001 Pathy, the 2002 Skyline 300GT V35, G35 and the 2003 350Z ;) Of course in the sporty cars they are modified and bored out at the factory.


Ahhh, well fair enough then. I thought you were talking the R34 Skyline that there was a pick up of earlier in the thread.

[XcOM]

i think japan went OTT with techo crap.

And Who else here is a volvo freek :)

I used to have a Volvo 740 GLE 2.5 Turbo, Very nice car, not the fastst in the world, but by far the most comfterbul car i have ever driven, 120MPH on 1500RPM !!!!

haven't got a car atm, saving for a......



You guessed it, a VOLVO, But what to have, i've always liked the 480
http://www.pestalozzi.net/sb/volvo_480/v480_400.jpg
http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200409/angel_of_death_1095160825_100_3824.jpg

[AJ@PR]

i think japan went OTT with techo crap.

And Who else here is a volvo freek :)

I used to have a Volvo 740 GLE 2.5 Turbo, Very nice car, not the fastst in the world, but by far the most comfterbul car i have ever driven, 120MPH on 1500RPM !!!!

haven't got a car atm, saving for a......



You guessed it, a VOLVO, But what to have, i've always liked the 480
http://www.pestalozzi.net/sb/volvo_480/v480_400.jpg
http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200409/angel_of_death_1095160825_100_3824.jpg
Cool looking car!

I feel kind of ashamed, but, I had never seen that Volvo before in my life.
Never.
Wow.
What engine did it usually run?
Is it also a rwd? Or fwd?

Wierd...
As to your 740... sure it wasn't a 2.3L engine?
I don't know everything about them, but I think they started at 4cylinder 2.1Liters... then 2.3Liters.
Those where the BF21 and BF23 engines, respectively.

Yeah, at speed, the 740 is good.
I had one, but got rid of it soon... as I liked the 242 better.
Good cars. Very good cars.

Now that you're a Volvo dude... have you heard of ipd?
www.ipdusa.com

I realize there's lots of Volvo parts-shops over there in Europe, and ipd is over at USA, but they're GREAT.

I can only give them a 5 star rating.
Customer service.
Helpfulness.
Friendliness.

Great, great company.
They make, amongst other things, these 1" diameter, solid anti-sway bars for Volvos.
Those are amongst the best $400 I've spent in my entire life.
WoooWEEEeee!!!!!

[GT40_GearHead]

FERRARI does it again !!!

The Ice Man bring the first title of the season home !!


banana time ! :banana:

[AJ@PR]

FERRARI does it again !!!

The Ice Man bring the first title of the season home !!


banana time ! :banana:

I freaking missed it. :(

Any highlights you can point out?

[GT40_GearHead]

pm sent ! :D

[GT40_GearHead]

check your PMs, AJ@PR ! :D

[Bucko]

I was impressed with Lewis Hamilton's debut race though! Second for most of the race, led for a while and then 3rd overall.

I'm hoping Red Bull gets some improvements though. Go Mark Webber and Go Australia! w00t!

[Durrthock]

The actually fastest street legal car is the Callaway 1988 Corvette Sledgehammer
But not mass production. So thats why its got one mph one the squished down bug.

http://www.fastcoolcars.com/callaway_sledgehammer.htm
There it is.

[GT40_GearHead]

I was impressed with Lewis Hamilton's debut race though! Second for most of the race, led for a while and then 3rd overall.

you are right, the was awesome (i cant forgive myself for not mentioning him)
i would have really wished he could have staid in second place, i have no love for Alonso, it probably was a pit game... to

bad the man was great
But what its important is that he know he can do it, and that is going to be great for his moral !



I'm hoping Red Bull gets some improvements though. Go Mark Webber and Go Australia! w00t!

yeah, Webber did a great race, to bad that car is not top shape, maybe the are going to get things sorted in the next couple of races

[isunktheship]

Hehe, I should really get my "car" mod done this summer... I'm juggling so many ideas around I can't settle with one. I'd like to get a car mod done, I already laid out my Bugatti idea, but I'm not sure about it..

Link to the Bugatti design... (http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3427&highlight=Bugatti)
(bah, my images are down right now, I'm switching servers around.)

I'm so glad people are talking about the skyline, it is such a perfect car for this forum. That car is all about "overlcocking" and modding, it's engine can take a beating, plus the car itself can be altered to suit many different situations, weather you drift, or you want speed.

[GT40_GearHead]

yeah, the skyline is a remarkable, car, the damn thing has a G meter in it !
it has 4x4 drive, it has a computerized central differential that will adjust the torque balance according to the terrain conditions, and lets not forget the HUGE power reserve in that engine, that thing is pure GRUNT !

I've heard people say that some of the top skylines, with all the performance mods on them, have better handling than some of the top dollar Ferraris

[XcOM]

Cool looking car!

I feel kind of ashamed, but, I had never seen that Volvo before in my life.
Never.
Wow.
What engine did it usually run?
Is it also a rwd? Or fwd?

it is FWD, it was an old volvo made in the late 70's to early 90's, the have recently reinvented it as a C30



Wierd...
As to your 740... sure it wasn't a 2.3L engine?
I don't know everything about them, but I think they started at 4cylinder 2.1Liters... then 2.3Liters.
Those where the BF21 and BF23 engines, respectively.

Im sure, i was bemused myself, the volvo shop said it is the only 2.5 inline 5 he had ever seen, and to top that it had a HUGE turbo, and an overdrive



Yeah, at speed, the 740 is good.
I had one, but got rid of it soon... as I liked the 242 better.
Good cars. Very good cars.

Its all about personal taste, but i never liked the 242, i prefur the 700, 900 and 400 series.
my personal fav at current release is the S80

ive never heard of ipd, i know of a few mod Co.s in the UK though for volvos.

[Luke122]

If you want to see some cool Skylines, check out www.exvitermini.com

They also have a crazy Supra Turbo on there, some WRXs, etc.

This is the home site for the 3rd Fastest 4wd Dragster in the world. The dyno videos will blow you away. :D

[Durrthock]

Interesting speed records
http://www.bankspower.com/on_the_salt.cfm

[xmastree]

Hmm... I was working in Manchester (http://www.thegreatnorthern.com/) today, and look what I saw (http://www.lotechdesigns.com/host/images/6903bug.jpg) parked on Deansgate...

[Crimson Sky]

Hmm... I was working in Manchester (http://www.thegreatnorthern.com/) today, and look what I saw (http://www.lotechdesigns.com/host/images/6903bug.jpg) parked on Deansgate...


Oh sweet mother of....I just love that creature.

[xmastree]

You should have heard it drive off. It just growled, and was gone.

[GT40_GearHead]

It just growled, and was gone
Don't mess with the BUG man !

[SgtM]

Incredible stuff. I want one. 'nuff said.