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Spawn-Inc
03-26-2007, 08:47 PM
i built a heat sink with heat pipes and i want to know you think. i want to use it with a 686 @120MHz and i want to mess around with overclocking so if it messes up i don't care. i think i would also have a fan or 2 blowing on it. do you need lots of ram to oc?

its a aluminium block with copper 1\4" lines and solder helping hold it down in addition to the bent fins. its not water cooled. i was going to but i don't have the proper tools to do so.
http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/3120/2198031730100511463S600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/284/2753031760100511463S600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/3166/2314325310100511463S600x600Q85.jpg

camalotious
03-26-2007, 09:05 PM
haha...no offense but it looks like a 1st grade science project...LET ME KNOW IF IT WORKS?!

xRyokenx
03-26-2007, 09:12 PM
I'd have to say that no, I don't think it'll work, at least not very well... it might could work better if you had made it a bit more like conventional heatsinks, with some alumium fins or something, and had the copper tubing running through them... just my two cents, pay me no mind.

SgtM
03-26-2007, 09:28 PM
That's awesome! Let us know how it works. +rep for being creative.

progbuddy
03-26-2007, 09:34 PM
Good idea. But the heatsink is supposed to create a large surface area upon which heat can radiate. I just don't think you have the surface area to radiate enough heat.

Ichbin
03-26-2007, 09:34 PM
For some reason....

I think...other "substances" were effecting your judgement... lol (JK)


HILARIOUS!

ReverendBob
03-26-2007, 09:39 PM
The solder might be an issue. I don't know how thermoconductive the solder is.

From what little I know, it is going to be better than nothing, but don't expect the same results as a standard heatsink.

Is the solder surrounding the pipe? Or is it just nesting on top? Perhaps filling in the gaps around the pipe with some cheap thermogrease, and nexting solder on top will help.

If you have some copper wire around, it might be better to wrap copper wire around the fins with the ends sticking up. It will take a whole lot longer for the heat to move through the thicker material of the tube than it would to move through some thinner copper wire.

So, two points I think are of concern.......

1. The solder, is it thermoconductive?

2. The size of the pipe, do you have something thinner?

Other than that, if you can mount it on your processor, close to the way a factory made one would be, and put enough airflow on it, you should be able to use the system.

NO OVERCLOCKING FOR YOU MISTER!

LiTHiUM0XiD3
03-26-2007, 09:59 PM
lolz to me that looks just like normal copper pipe.... and if anybody has done any refrig work... they would know... heat pipes... AINT JUST HOLLOW...... heat pipes contain a gas which works in a simple phase change method...... gas-liquid-gas-liquid ....thats how it cools it... the gas is one that usualy has a very low boiling point.... i give u credit for effort........ :)





but if it will work..... yeahz maybe..... ur spreading the heat on a bigger area...... but in all reality... u had better have some fans around

OvRiDe
03-26-2007, 10:29 PM
What did you fill the tubes with?

Omega
03-26-2007, 10:39 PM
but if it will work..... yeahz maybe..... ur spreading the heat on a bigger area...... but in all reality... u had better have some fans around

Do some homework, and I mean that in the best way possible.

Heatsinks turn a small area into a larger one with thermally conductive materials, of which Aluminum and Copper are two very good ones. Due to thermodynamic principals, heat always flows from hot to cold, and thus, off of the heatsink. The larger surface area means more area for the heat to radiate off, and thus, the possibility for fanless heatsinks or very efficient but large heatsinks is practical.

Spawn-Inc
03-26-2007, 10:53 PM
well i mounted the heatsink and i had to make my own bracket for it. i had 2 60mm fans blowing over them and it didn't ever really get hot. BUT i couldn't find in the bios a temp monitor so i gave up after that. also it didn't find the cpu i put in which i thought was weird. it said what the processer was called but right next to it, it said CPU NOT FOUND. i forgot to take pictures so i will go remount it and take some.


haha...no offense but it looks like a 1st grade science project...LET ME KNOW IF IT WORKS?!

yes i know i have no tube bender so its all hand done. the only tools i had was a mutli tool.


For some reason....

I think...other "substances" were effecting your judgement... lol (JK)


HILARIOUS!

haha no substances here just 5 in the morning with 4 hours of sleep the other day.


The solder might be an issue. I don't know how thermoconductive the solder is.

From what little I know, it is going to be better than nothing, but don't expect the same results as a standard heatsink.

Is the solder surrounding the pipe? Or is it just nesting on top? Perhaps filling in the gaps around the pipe with some cheap thermogrease, and nexting solder on top will help.

If you have some copper wire around, it might be better to wrap copper wire around the fins with the ends sticking up. It will take a whole lot longer for the heat to move through the thicker material of the tube than it would to move through some thinner copper wire.

So, two points I think are of concern.......

1. The solder, is it thermoconductive?

2. The size of the pipe, do you have something thinner?

Other than that, if you can mount it on your processor, close to the way a factory made one would be, and put enough airflow on it, you should be able to use the system.

NO OVERCLOCKING FOR YOU MISTER!

1. not sure, i would image it is. its just regualr solder with no flux in the middle. and its just covering the top. it didn't add the way i would have thought. but i didn't sand or anything so the copper was dirty. i used liquid flux and thats all.

2. i am not gonna bother with this project anymore. its to complicated for my knowledge level. also to many problems i have no spare hard drive with any os on it. the heatsink was bent a bit so i wouldn't get good contact. when i get my own computer i am just gonna get a goo processer and not bother with overclocking.


lolz to me that looks just like normal copper pipe.... and if anybody has done any refrig work... they would know... heat pipes... AINT JUST HOLLOW...... heat pipes contain a gas which works in a simple phase change method...... gas-liquid-gas-liquid ....thats how it cools it... the gas is one that usualy has a very low boiling point.... i give u credit for effort........ :)





but if it will work..... yeahz maybe..... ur spreading the heat on a bigger area...... but in all reality... u had better have some fans around

i thought all the heatsinks with heat pipes just had air in them. i do work in refrgeration but i didn't think they put it in the heat pipes.


What did you fill the tubes with?

nothing, i was going to run water through it but i don't have a flare tool to make the fittings so i just left it empty.

OvRiDe
03-26-2007, 11:01 PM
Well it was a valiant try.. if your interested there is some information on this post about heat pipes.

http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24661&postcount=7

or you can go straight to the source

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heatpipe

Spawn-Inc
03-26-2007, 11:15 PM
here are some pictures

http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/4575/2141157070100511463S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/1680/2317916420100511463S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/3936/2282378470100511463S600x600Q85.jpg

DaJe
03-26-2007, 11:27 PM
You have a speaker under your hard drive?

Spawn-Inc
03-26-2007, 11:50 PM
its a old old computer its the speaker for the beeping

DaJe
03-26-2007, 11:59 PM
I'm just saying that speakers work via magnets.

GT40_GearHead
03-27-2007, 02:39 AM
that little speaker aint gonna do sh1t to your hard drive :D

you need a lot more grunt to make some damage !

Spawn-Inc
03-27-2007, 03:05 AM
I'm just saying that speakers work via magnets.

well it was factory placed so i guesss its fine

XcOM
03-27-2007, 10:57 AM
looks freeky.

I've always wondered, the HDD spins yes, therefor you need a motor, and motors work by magnits, so i always wondered why dosen't your HDD data get wiped from the motor?

Ichbin
03-27-2007, 11:01 AM
Im assuming youd need the thinkgeeks curiously strong magnets to maybe do damage.


oh, and i though the hdd engines were gas powered. lol. I thought thats how they were killing the ozone....Damn Gas powered hdds.... :P

nil8
03-27-2007, 11:05 AM
The magnetic force required to pooch a hard drive is much higher than anything that little speaker will ever put out.

If you've ever seen the machine that wipes hard drives via EM, you know what I'm talking about.