New Computer

[azminisk8r]

hey im getting all new parts and building my own comp since i got fed up with companies, and so i decided to post the build here sicnce well im bored, if i decide to mod it then i'll probably post another thread in a diff section but just wanted to post now cuz the parts are here tommorow and i didnt want to forget to post a log so yeah,

GO SNATA + BANANA
:santa::banana::santa::banana::D

[Omega]

Well, what are you waiting for!? Post some part lists!

[azminisk8r]

lol man and i thought i was overanxious lol uhm lets see off the top of my head


foxconn OC 8800 gts
e6600
2G matched OCZ gold heatspreader ddr2 900
arctic freezer 7 pro
antec nine-hundred case, (output fans: 1 120 1 200 Input:3 120)(all 120's adjustable speed)
in9 32x max 680i mobo
160 gb WD HDD SATA
dvd-rw lite on SATA
G5 mouse 2000 dpi


uhh i think thats it

[Omega]

Please tell me you're planning some sort of really cool looking black metal + plexiglass mod for that case. It's totally screaming for it.

[azminisk8r]

wat you mean black metal and plexiglass the things already balck and got a plexi window, i was thinking about lining the inside with black metal mesh and getting a couple laser cuts on the steel but i dont know what else i can do to this case, and im still trying to figure out how to put a lava lamp in there but its hard

[xRyokenx]

If you're putting a lava lamp in there you should really look into water cooling, lava lamps generate a LOT of heat. If the Arctic Freezer Pro is a water cooler disregard this post. :D

[Crimson Sky]

You could easily add a plasma ball instead, spare the added heat ;)

[azminisk8r]

nah the arctic cooler isnt, and thats why i was trying to figure out how to put one in there, or in the window, now that would be cool.

and plasma ball was my second choice but i cant find anything small enough to put in

also if anyone knows where i could find like a 8" diameter or sumtin disco ball and something to rotate it that would be sweet



YESSSSSS the parts left this morning out on a truck at 334 which means they should be here soon:D :D :D :D

[Spawn-Inc]

i would go for this
http://www.lightgod.com/store/images/large/plasma_disk_lg.jpg

[azminisk8r]

dude where can i find a big one of those like 18" diameter, atd be perfect on the window

[azminisk8r]

gaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY DATH UPS TAKE SO LONG THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE ME GO INSANE LIKE xRyokenx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!

[xRyokenx]

Yes! My evil plan is now in effect, and working!!! jk, how am I making you go crazy? :D

[azminisk8r]

the fact that im going to end up like you lol jk

[xRyokenx]

Heh heh, it is a lot nicer, and a lot different, being able to play games, on high graphics too. My old PC sucked: 700mhz, 128mb RAM, 32mb video card. I have to take another look at your specs, but I think your new PC might be better than my current one... but I'ma upgrade RAM and HDD hopefully this summer, so it'll run a LOT faster...

[azminisk8r]

holy crap that comp sukd, i have one sitting in my room that i use as a cupholder thats better than that, 1GHZ 512 ram, max on mobo, geforce 5200,

[xRyokenx]

Surprisingly, my grandpa is using some junk computer that's about 500mhz, and that's all I know about it... he really should just get a cheap $300 HP or something that will actually work...

I bet you're excited about getting a new PC... that'll be nice to have around, I didn't have mine for over a month, and almost went insane.

[azminisk8r]

hahahahaha try 5, I AM INSANE, but i finally built it and guess what, POST code error, oh well it looks good, so i got pics just waiting on photo bucket

[xRyokenx]

Wow, five months... surprised you're still alive...

JK :D

I'd take a couple pics of mine and my desk, but my room is a mess, I just got a new bed and had to relocate my desk. Word of advice, throw out all the boxes the stuff was shipped in, but not the boxes that the parts came in... you know, throw out the brown ones, keep the others... they will clog up your room and you will have piles of crap that looks organized, but if you try to do something with them, they will get angry and make a mess of the place, believe me, I know... :D

[azminisk8r]

lol yeah thats kinda what my upper floor looks like, moms into ebaying

[azminisk8r]

and now for the pics

pile of parts
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/azminisk8r/IMG_2494.jpg

pile of small parts
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/azminisk8r/IMG_2495.jpg

sorry for the blur hands were shaking excited way too much

mobo in9 32x max 680i abit
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/azminisk8r/IMG_2497.jpg

vista
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/azminisk8r/IMG_2498.jpg

G5 laser mouse
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/azminisk8r/IMG_2499.jpg

e6600
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/azminisk8r/IMG_2500.jpg

WD HDD + OCZ ddr2 900 2g gold
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/azminisk8r/IMG_2502.jpg

530 W modular PSU
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/azminisk8r/IMG_2503.jpg

8800 gts
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/azminisk8r/IMG_2505.jpg

[xRyokenx]

Looking through those parts has made me somewhat jealous, but in four years or somewhere around there, I'll be upgrading again (building a whole new PC), so I'll be rollin' along real good...

Looks sweet... can't wait to see how your case looks with it all together.

[azminisk8r]

now for the building

antec 900
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/azminisk8r/IMG_2506.jpg

modular psu installed
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/azminisk8r/IMG_2507.jpg

mobo w 8800 installed
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/azminisk8r/IMG_2510.jpg

better pic of mobo, yes i did take off the covering of the 8800. that way i can get air in from all sides
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/azminisk8r/IMG_2516.jpg

mobo w everything installed
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/azminisk8r/IMG_2522.jpg

light up
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/azminisk8r/IMG_2525.jpg




okay lol this is a supre oc computer, once im done with it it will have 10 fans, WORKING TOGETHER, man at'll be sweet, and all under 30 db

[azminisk8r]

wadda you guys think about painting the inside of the case metallic blue??

[xRyokenx]

Wow, sweet... I have about six fans, not counting the three on my video card... mine's not that loud, and the little hum let's me know it's working... otherwise it would be like my computer isn't there...

EDIT: Painting the inside blue sounds awesome to me... did you see my idea for modding my case? It's in the Ideas (or whatever it's called) area.

EDIT EDIT: Link (http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6966) to my ideas thread, use what you will, I won't be for a while. :D

And sorry if I'm clogging up/spamming up your thread, I really should get some sleep... :neutral:

[azminisk8r]

nah i dont care, thx for the link. and i can adjust alll the fans so its below 20 if i want to, but im going to try to get a e6600 up to 3.5 at least.

[azminisk8r]

anyone know how to remove fan blades from a fan, tut plz

[SgtM]

I like the metallic blue paint idea.

[azminisk8r]

yeah i'm gunna take the fan blades off and paint em something reflective, probably chrome, since they're LED and have black blades. i mean c'mon antec, other than that theyre nice

[Crimson Sky]

a little cable organizing would be nice ;) www.cableorganizer.com congrats on the new rig.

is that ghetto tape I see on the inside???!! Yeesh. Makes my skin crawl.

[Bucko]

Are you mounting another fan to cool the video card? If not I would put that shroud back on as removing it will make the cooling worse.
The manufacturers do spend a bit money and time developing things like that for a reason you know...

[Crimson Sky]

Removing the shroud from the vid card is a bad idea. It's there to help direct the air from the fan over those cooling fins/heat pipes and out the back of the PC. Your temps are going to skyrocket, or worse, bork the ram chips.

There should be enough ambient air movement however to run that card at 800x600 provided that you don't install drivers or play any games. ;)

[dfigravity]

:eek:
a little cable organizing would be nice ;) www.cableorganizer.com congrats on the new rig.

is that ghetto tape I see on the inside???!! Yeesh. Makes my skin crawl.

Heres another great place for sleeving (lots of pretty UV colors)

ArcticMod (http://www.arcticmod.com/computer-cooling-mod/all-sizes-uv-reactive-sleeving/)

seeing your pictures makes me wish I had 40 gazillion bucks to drop on a new comp:eek:

[Bucko]

seeing your pictures makes me wish I had 40 gazillion bucks to drop on a new comp:eek:

Just like his parents did? I wish my parents got me stuff like that when I was 14.
Hence why we suggested putting the Video Card shroud back on. I can't imagine they would be impressed if he borked the card.

[Crimson Sky]

Would that still apply if you were watercooling? or would you just try to assimilate a GPU block for the vram?

Hmmm..I know some blocks cover the GPU and RAM, but some require that you install RAM heatsinks and have some airflow over them. Even a small amount of moving air will help the ramsinks. The RAM is basically on the opposite side of the GPU on these 7900's for instance:

The 120mm Fan installed in the airlock for my Doom mod blows cool outside air over both the cards.

http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/projects/doom3/final_build/final_build_A-(5).jpg

[xRyokenx]

I pulled the shroud off mine because pretty much all the reviews said that it sucked, so I bought a Kingwin (NEVER BUY FROM THEM) heatsink that came without an important screw, so I used wire in it's place. The screw it was missing was like a mobo mount screw mah-dingie... so I improvised...

But yeah, put the shroud back on, I didn't have my heatsink on there right and the card would have boiled water it was so hot, luckily it wasn't "borked." So, yeah, put the shroud on or get another heatsink.

[azminisk8r]

lol well 1400 dollars of the build was xmas and the other 700 was bday and i pretty much didnt get anything else so yeah

and yeah im trying to figure out how to get it working first im getting post code 87, Build SYSID ...anyone know how to do that

and about the shroud, the fan that is on there is supposed to suck air away from those blades and when i get this thing working ill have 3 fans blowing on just the blades so basically im just prototyping

[azminisk8r]

sweet im up and running , posting from the thing now, looks cool too, going to home depot for paint soon, but still need to know how to get the fan blades off, plz help

[Redundant]

sweet im up and running , posting from the thing now, looks cool too, going to home depot for paint soon, but still need to know how to get the fan blades off, plz help

You mean the case fans, right?, not the video card fan. Do put the shroud back on the 8800, that fan pushes air between the fins, it doesn't pull it. Blowin on the top will only cool the top of the fins and not most of it; they are very close together.

To take the blades off a case fan, do the following:
1. take the sticker off the back of the fan
2. there is a small plastic split-washer on the shaft. Use needle-nose pliers to remove it. Don't break it!
3. the fan blades will slide off and if you remove the lubricant from the shaft and bearings, replace it with some more.
4. put it back together in the opposite order.

That's the same case I want. :tear: :)
You are one luck kid to get all that stuff. :up: +rep

[xRyokenx]

You are one luck kid to get all that stuff. :up: +rep


You are one lucky kid, I payed for all $900 of mine minus the $200 my dad chipped in, working at KFC really pays off. :D

[azminisk8r]

dude i wish i could work, gotta wait another year... probably compusa or sumtin,

sorry it took so long to post, trying to OC to 3 GHZ w 6600, 2.4 G right now im at 2972.43 GHZ, and just about stuck. im not modding simply since my mom wont take me to home depot... damn 2 more years.
but i did add in el wire to the mobo and my. uhm. "custom" fan filters,


laundry sheets

[Bucko]

Do you want this thing to overheat?
Overclocking produces more heat, which is fine with airflow. But then you block how much air the fans can flow with laundry sheets?
Combined with no shroud on the video card, I don't see a high life expectancy for this computer.

[xRyokenx]

Yeah, the sheets are a bad idea. What you should do is go out and get a couple air filters, just like the cheap ones for your A/C unit. See how hot it runs and then OC it...

I don't mean to sound negative in any way, and I'm sure Bucko doesn't either, but you need to be careful, PCs are sensitive, I learned that when I accidentally kicked mine and the CPU fried.

[azminisk8r]

lol dude i got it at 3.197 ghz right now, max temp under full load 52, idle, 36

dont worry i know i know, and fo rthe vid card i got a 120 at 80 cfm right on it, on the fins, and another blowing from the side at 70. then the stock fan. btw the vid cards OC'd too:D

the only reason i cant go higher OC is cuz of voltage, im already at 1.5

STILL WAITING TO GO TO HOME DEPOT

[xRyokenx]

Well, as long as you don't fry anything. When you hit home depot get the air filters like I said, much more efficient and less likely to block all the air, don't get the crazy anti everything filters, just the cheapest ones that'll keep out dust, you don't need anything more or you won't have any airflow whatsoever.

[Bucko]

I am responding in a negative way because I don't want to see you fry $2000 worth of new components. There's no point me cheering you on and then watching the computer crash and burn.

Cheap foam for air filters can be found at an auto parts store too.

[azminisk8r]

yeah i plan to, these arent half bad though levels out the input and output

60cfm*3=180
134cfm+50cfm=184

3 inputs 80 standard, about 60 w filters
i 120 output silent 50 cfm 1 200 output 134 cfm

[azminisk8r]

yeah ineed to go to an autobody shop for bondo, really high grit sandpaper, 2000+ i only have 1500 which only satisfies you so much when lapping a hs

[azminisk8r]

sweet, i got ll the way up to 9124 in 3dmark06 after ocing

sorry guys but no modding today mmom was too tired to go to home depot

[chaksq]

Seriously I think you risk killing your new computer. Listen to these guys they know what they are doing from experiance. Put your shroud back on and take out the sheets. They are not filters they block airflow: it is much easier and cheaper to clean dust from your case once a month than pry out a melted CPU and graphics card. If you can't get something you need don't rig up a temporary bad solution, wait to use your computer for a few days. You didn't have anything before you got it so you can wait a few days to use this one. It would be better to wait several days than to fry $2000 worth of equiptment.


On a more random note:

I accidentally kicked mine and the CPU fried.
Don't do this but this reminds me of the old P1 I had that myself and my friends kicked a hundred times because the thing stunk and ironically the motherboard still works and the case suffered no damage (it is going to be a future mod project).
***Don't do that ever. It will break your new hardware. Mine was practically armored.***

[xRyokenx]

Yeah, the CPU that got fried was a Socket A, which they luckily stopped selling this year, those things suck, I'm so much happier with my Pentium D.

[azminisk8r]

lol

on other notes, i removed one of the filters to the one blowing over the vid card, which btw i would say didnt go over 50C when i ran 3dm06
which btw i got 9208 on after ocing i could put my hand on it and say that it was pretthy hot and it didnt burn my hand

now im taknig the 2 fromnt filters off

soon ill be seeing how low i can use this OC with the lowest voltages, ive peaked at 58 :eek:


enough with over clocking im really trying to convince me mummy to take me to home depot and an auto body shop but i gotta finish a 5 page essay first so i might have the stuff by 5 ish

[azminisk8r]

lol thx for finally convincing me to ttake those off now im running 2C cooler, which actualy matters cuz im at 59 max now

[xRyokenx]

Yeah, 60c is like 150-160f, not good, mine idles at around 110f. Just so you have a temp comparison.

[azminisk8r]

yeah well apparently i was.o5 volts off what i needed, so i got to max out at 55, a decently respectable OC load temp

btw now its at 3.4,

and yes i will aactually be modding some time soon

[Bucko]

what stress tests have you done to see if that overclock is stable?

[azminisk8r]

orthos and 3d m o6 i havent oc'd the ram so im not worrying baout that yet

[Bucko]

I would download Prime95 to make sure your system is stable. Leave it to run for a few hours.

http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=103

It's the best overclocking stress tester.

[azminisk8r]

thx btw w./o shroud worked better, and i know its not stable in cpu cuz orthos and prime95 both crased there but im fine with having my computer crash edvery 3 hours or so

[.Maleficus.]

thx btw w./o shroud worked better, and i know its not stable in cpu cuz orthos and prime95 both crased there but im fine with having my computer crash edvery 3 hours or so
...Why? Why??? Why would you be ok with it crashing every 3 hours??? Crashes are bad!!! They don't crash because they're happy and think it's funny! They crash because something is wrong!

I'm sorry, but I really doubt your computer is going to last you very long. If it crashes every 3 hours, pretty soon it's going to just head off and die.

[XcOM]

i agree, PC's are not designed to crash, The crash every three hours will kill your hard drive in a month or so, next will be your CPU, then your memory from power spikes when crashing and restarting.

[azminisk8r]

actually its more like every half hour, but im trying to fix it with a 1 GHZ OC

[xRyokenx]

What you prolly should have done is put it together, not modded or screwed with anything, seen if it ran good, troubleshoot any problems, and then screwed around with it...

EDIT: Sorry, just wanted to make note that I don't want to sound harsh.

[azminisk8r]

yeah i woulda, but i would be so bored, all i do is oc and tweak

that sucked i had to learn how to flash a bios and recover from no bios cuz i stopped my pc in the middle of flashing. scared the **** outta me

[Bucko]

God I can't believe what I keep reading in here. It's like a train wreck, you just can't look away!

It is NOT good to have a system that crashes like that. Putting aside the damage to the hardware, Windows is an OS that does NOT like having improper shutdowns. It'll screw up the registry in no time.

Aside from all of that, do you really want it to crash mid game when you are playing?




*Bucko now understands the type of person which Mac's were made for*

[xRyokenx]

Yeah, Bucko, for health reasons you may wanna stop following this thread. :D
Last thing I'll say azmin, take it easy on your PC.

[azminisk8r]

lol dont worrk the bios only got disentigrated one and windows only had to be reregistered once lol, but you'll be happy to know that im keeping a 3.375ghz speed with a max temp of 55 and idle 33. im gunna try and make it run cooler tommorow hopefully in about a week the as5 will be set up and drop 2* or so

[.Maleficus.]

lol dont worrk the bios only got disentigrated one and windows only had to be reregistered once lol, but you'll be happy to know that im keeping a 3.375ghz speed with a max temp of 55 and idle 33. im gunna try and make it run cooler tommorow hopefully in about a week the as5 will be set up and drop 2* or so
First of all, the registry is not when you activate Windows... That is the registration, and has nothing to do with the registry... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_registry)

Second, for a C2D, those temps are high. Granted I'm only OC'd to 3.10Ghz, but I've _never_ gone past 40ºC. Load or idle. You may want to tune that down a little, or get more cooling, or something.

[chaksq]

What you prolly should have done is put it together, not modded or screwed with anything, seen if it ran good, troubleshoot any problems, and then screwed around with it...

EDIT: Sorry, just wanted to make note that I don't want to sound harsh.



yeah i woulda, but i would be so bored, all i do is oc and tweak

that sucked i had to learn how to flash a bios and recover from no bios cuz i stopped my pc in the middle of flashing. scared the **** outta me

Allright that has to be the worst excuse I have heard for stupidity. No offense but you really though that it would be a good idea to mess with something brand new before you even made sure it worked right.

You could have set up your system and got it working. And then you could have easily and safely messed with tweaking and overclocking.

It honestly sounds like you don't care if you blow up your computer. I think I could cook my lunch at some of those temperatures.

Seriously, what is the point of overclocking to that power if you can't use it because your computer keeps crashing. You risk all of you hardware to make it super powerful and you can't even use it. I personally don't get the point of what you are doing. I ask you to please stop and think what you are doing before you mess with that thing again.

Why don't you stop bring everything down to stock performance levels get it to work right and then carefully you can return to overclocking.

Negative rep: Sorry I hate to do this but you need to wake up to reality.

[azminisk8r]

uhm hello i told you IM TRYING TO FIX IT, everything needs time to be fixed, im just tweaking with it right now, cant beleive you gave me - rep for doing what i want with my computer, minus rep is for being a jackass on the forums, not because you like messing with your computer a little dangerously

[chaksq]

Sorry, I was in a bad mood when I did that. Reputation points are up kinda up to the user who gives/takes them not the recipiant. I personally feel they are designed to let other users especially noobs figure out who gives good, sound, useful advice. I personally think that if you almost destroyed brand new equiptment with a slight bit of recklessness and impatiance than you might not be the best person to give advice to a total noob. I see way to much rep just given away because people like a particular mod rather than for people who help out the community by giving good advice or a how-to.

If you do a good job at fixing your problem I was planning on giving you the rep point back and maybe some extra rep as well.

[azminisk8r]

actually right now vista collapsed on its self so i have to reset everything, anyone know of a coretemp program and cpu clocking program for linux?

will cpu-z and coretemp beta work in vista

btw i knew that i was being a bit reckless but that was because i had been trying to go to max oC for the last 12 hours, literally, and forgot to tune the voltage down, i got all the way up to 3.775 ghz, took 1.6v to get it semi stable to take the print scrteen but i did it,

after i build this thing back up im gunna A. do MAJOR cable management, B., start with stock voltage and go up 10 fsb till i cant get it to start, then up volt .01 and repeat till im at least at 3.0

[chaksq]

Allright sounds like you are heading on the right track.

[azminisk8r]

lol yeah wanna give each other back the rep? i think we were both in a bad mood at the time, too much paintballing for me, dehydration, + exhaustion

[.Maleficus.]

Temp. monitors. (http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Monitoring/Temperature/)

I don't know what you want with the other one.

Also az, I have a small favor to ask of you. Could you please start using decent grammar/punctuation/spelling in your posts? They're getting to the point where it's hard to read now. Even just capitalization and ending a sentence every now and then would help tons.

[azminisk8r]

gah fine then, its hard right about now. You know dehydration, migrane, 3000:1 contrast ratio screen.lol

[Bucko]

lol yeah wanna give each other back the rep?

So you gave out a negative rep because you received one?
And now you are asking for it to be returned?

Here's what the rules have to say about that:




Asking for reputation points is not allowed.
Abusing the reputation system will result in disciplinary actions determined by the staff. Abuse includes giving a member a negative point because you believe they gave you one

[azminisk8r]

no i gave you one because i beleive you used it in the wrong manner

[DaveW]

Guys, this thread is getting a little out of control.

azmin, don't ask for rep. Personally, i feel that your original reps were both justified. I think azmin wasn't 'bad repping because he got a bad rep' but more annoyed with the way chaksq made his point, which is completely fair.

Just try and keep it civilized, ok guys?

-Dave

[azminisk8r]

ok i would delete the thread and start a new one but i cant do that so ill just restart here

i just got a bunch of computer parts and...
i got bored of typing lol anyway. I tried to paint the case only got part of it done though, ran out of paint. going to need some more mod ideas cuz im dead. No creativity in me whatsoever

[DaveW]

ok i would delete the thread and start a new one but i cant do that so ill just restart here

i just got a bunch of computer parts and...
i got bored of typing lol anyway. I tried to paint the case only got part of it done though, ran out of paint. going to need some more mod ideas cuz im dead. No creativity in me whatsoever

Lol...dude, give it up, start a new thread, try again. Post what ya got, where you're stuck, what you need, and ask for ideas. The guys on this board will help anyone who phrases the question right. ;)

-Dave

[azminisk8r]

ah and thats the hard part lol, i think ill just not post it since i cant figure out what to do with the case except paint it

[Bucko]

Dave is right.

We are willing to help, but the way you are going about it is wrong.
You may get offended with what I say, but I'll say it anyway.

Most of this thread seems to be you charging ahead without a clue to what you are doing. Things like system crashes every half hour and using sheets as filters and restricting air flow are really bad things. If your aren't sure about something, ask first (even if you are sure, you should probably ask anyway from what I've read so far). If you ask, we'll help.
If you do it and then try and convince us it's a good idea, you'll get grilled.

You should just slow down, settle down and think about what you are posting.
When you are having issues like that and then try and post advice in another thread that you are "getting 3.5Ghz on an overclock easy" when it just isn't true, you aren't helping your cause.
Maybe you don't realise just how much money $2000 is. I'm sure your parents worked hard to buy you this computer, so treat it with respect as I'm sure they don't want to see it trashed because you are too impaitent and keep charging ahead without thought for what you are doing.
I know I earn good money, but I still have to save hard for my new PC and when I get it I'll be making sure I do it right because I don't want to smeg anything up.

Some of the people here (myself included) have been playing with these strange boxes that beep and flash and give messages like "Abort, retry, fail?" for longer than you have been alive.
While that doesn't mean we know everything, it does mean we may have seen some issues before. If you open your ears and slow down a bit you may actually pick up some knowledge and it will help you as you learn more yourself.

At the moment it just seems like you are coming across as a spoilt kid who thinks he knows it all.

So calm down, have a think and post some more and prove that it isn't the case and you are actually a reasonable person.

[chaksq]

^^^Bucko pretty much sumarizes my point. I could say more but I am going to check myself.

[azminisk8r]

1 not to be mean or anything 2grand is a lot, but my dad makes that much in a matter of hours, nothing to worry about. But you are right he definitely values this computer more than i do and i do plan on being less reckless.

2 the 8800 without shroud is working coler than with shroud.

3 no fan filters for me period im worikng out of case for now

[Bucko]

Did you find some GPU temperature reading software? What sort of difference in temperatures is there?

Just be careful when working out of the case as it's easy to short something or bump components and break them.

I'm impressed if your Dad earns that. On rough and simple calculations that is well over a million a year he makes.

[azminisk8r]

yeah raytheon, big missles, way up there in bosses and stuff

[azminisk8r]

lol i think someone only half read the thread gave - rep for not listenin to you guys which in the end i did, the end being now

okay newest overclock 1200 fsb 2700 mhz idle 29 load 40 stock volt

[Bucko]

Just a question I'm not sure if I saw the answer to, when you fitted the CPU heatsink, did you leave the computer running overnight or get the CPU hot for a while to set the thermal paste?

That temp you are getting is a lot more sensible. Form there I'd give it a stress test with Prime95, then wind it up a small amount and stress test again.

[azminisk8r]

prime95 wasnt working well on mine, compatibility wise, still using orthos, and doing a 10 minute test after each raise

newest fsb 1250 2812.5mhz 29 idle( reapplied as5 REALLY thin) load 44

[Bucko]

Most stress tests need longer than 10 minutes to ensure stability. Usually a minimum of 3-4 hours, preferably overnight to ensure there are no problems.

[azminisk8r]

okay does anyone know how to take the blades off of a fan?

[Bucko]

okay does anyone know how to take the blades off of a fan?


That was already answered on page two of this thread....


You mean the case fans, right?

To take the blades off a case fan, do the following:
1. take the sticker off the back of the fan
2. there is a small plastic split-washer on the shaft. Use needle-nose pliers to remove it. Don't break it!
3. the fan blades will slide off and if you remove the lubricant from the shaft and bearings, replace it with some more.
4. put it back together in the opposite order.

[azminisk8r]

still cant figure it out, someone got pics/tut

[Bucko]

But just for you I grabbed a spare 120mm case fan and made a quick photo tutorial:

Step one: A case fan.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/1025/fan001na6.jpg


Step two: Remove sticker.

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/6968/fan002zo2.jpg


Step three: Get a small jewelers screwdriver and carefully prise it off by working your way around. Careful not to snap it.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3017/fan004qr5.jpg

Here is the washer off the fan:

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1607/fan005ew9.jpg


Step five: pull fan off:

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5971/fan006ze8.jpg


Put it back together the opposite way.

[azminisk8r]

wait is it an o ring on the outside of it or the really little o ring with the tab on it right on the shaft

[azminisk8r]

lol i would give you rep but it says i have to spead it around before i give it to you lol

[Bucko]

It's not an o-ring. It's a small plastic washer with a small split in it.

[Bucko]

here's a quick MS paint pic of the shaft and the split washer:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5798/shaftfl5.png (http://imageshack.us)

[azminisk8r]

yeah i cant manage to get that thing off, will try again later but for now

1300 fsb idle 30 load 48 max 2925mhz, gunna try and break 3ghz on stock volt

[Bucko]

What are you using to try and get it out?

I used the smallest jewelers screwdriver I have and put it in the split of the washer and then worked my way around it.
Sometimes it can be hard to get it to come up because of all the lube, in that case pull the fan outwards so the washer has some pressure on it, then get the screwdriver in and work it around.

As for your temps, they are starting to get up a bit there. If it's already at 48, it will only get hotter from there. You should be aiming for 50 as an absolute maximum. Hotter than that and you will risk premature failure.
What are you running that needs the high overclock?

[azminisk8r]

nothing just trying to improve performance

okay i tried 3GHZ at stock and it didnt make it so i lowered the fsb to 1320 and im running at 2970 safely so far max temp under load 15 min=47? must be setting in

[azminisk8r]

ah crap i couldnt get above 1420 orthos stable, but it lookws fine to me so im goin to keep going

[armadilloben]

yeah raytheon, big missles, way up there in bosses and stuff

raytheon is an awesome company didnt they make the predator?