thermoelectric?

[azminisk8r]

is a under 100$ water cooler worse or better than a thermoelectric cooler?
post some suggested links to items please, and will thermoelectric get below 20C if at stock idle?
is the silver knight better or worse than a cheap thermoelectric

[azminisk8r]

uh hello is anyone even going to help me out here, ive posted 2 threads that have been up for a week on the first one and i got 1 post and thats it, cmon are you guys gunna help me out or not

[Bucko]

A cooler can only get the temprature as low as ambient temperature of the room. If your room is 25 degrees, you won't ever get to 20 degrees.

Cheap water cooling is normally as good as an expensive heatsink cooler.

[azminisk8r]

crap, i need really good, im getting 58 OCing with a hs equivalent to the zalman

[Bucko]

I'm still not sure why you are going for big overclocks. You say to increase performance, but for what exactly do you need the extra performance if you don't have games?

[azminisk8r]

just the sake of overclocking, i like holding records, and so far 4ghz hasnt been reached on the forum im at. which will give me major rep but i cant do it without better cooling.and plus the fan on my cpu cooler is broken cuz i dropped something in it accidentally and a blade flew off

[Bucko]

If you wanna hit 4Ghz, you need to spend some bigger bucks on water cooling. Don't try and skimping on some cheap **** cooler.
So basically, you are trying to overclock big to impress some forum? Lame...
I wouldn't risk my computer just for that.

[azminisk8r]

uhm no not just for that, i just enjoy overclocking, and it isnt risking your components if you have adequate cooling, which is why i asked if thermoelectric or water is better, been thinking on the silver knight

[Bucko]

The Silver Knight looks cool, but doesn't cool...
I'm assuming you mean the ASUS cooler here. Don't waste your money.

[azminisk8r]

uh no i mean the evercool one

[Zephik]

I'll just say one thing. If you want to overclock big, then you are going to have to spend big bucks on a water cooling kit. If you want to go insane, go with a peltier water cooling setup. Do lots of research if you go peltier. Well actually, do lots of research period. But no matter how you slice the bread, you are going to have to spend around 200-300 bucks for a good water cooling kit to get 4ghz safely. If you don't care about saftey... well... dont post on this forum. ;) :)

[azminisk8r]

yeah thats what i was wondering, if anyone knew cheap because i dont want to go peltier, to damn expensive, found some decent ones around 150 200. but not good enough o well, have to wait another year till i can work. You know i hate child labor laws right now, i need lots of cash, like 400, and i have 0 way to make it. No allowance, but then again no chores. My mom stays home all day so we dont need to do chores

[Bucko]

What's stopping you from going and asking neighbours if you can mow lawns, or wash cars, do chores for them. That's what I did before I got a part time job to earn money when I was younger.

[Zephik]

What's stopping you from going and asking neighbours if you can mow lawns, or wash cars, do chores for them. That's what I did before I got a part time job to earn money when I was younger.

Thats actually a really good idea. I made close to 400 buck-a-roo's for a summers work of mowing lawns. Well, we had some fancy shmancy neighbors too, but you can still make a good wad of cash by doing things that nobody likes to do, like chores. Not even adults like to do their chores. ;)

[azminisk8r]

lol uhm AZ temps are maxing out at 100 so we have no lawns, we have rocks. and my neighbours cars are too expensive to let me touch, 3 hummers and a couple mercedes a few convertibles but no corvettes, plus i dont know anyone in my neighborhood they're all old hags i mean we have people move out trimonthly cuz they die or need to go to a retirement home

[simon275]

Cheap water cooling is normally as good as an expensive heatsink cooler.

I beg to differ there are a number of watercooling systems out there that are rubbish you really have to spend either the same or more on a water cooling system compared to an expensive heatsink to get some good cooling.

[Bucko]

Ok, so there is no lawns and you can't wash their cars. Not knowing them doesn't matter. I went up and knocked on their doors and said "Hi, I'm Lee from number 10. I'm looking to earn some extra pocket money. Is there any yard work or other chores I can do for you?"
Sure, some said no, but if you have a lot of old people around, you are sitting on a gold mine! They don't have young kids around to do the chores for free!
There's racking leaves, weeding, scooping leaves out of pools, walking their dogs for them. Be inventive!
If you really want these computer bits, you'd do it.
When I was about 14 the PS1 came out.
It was $800.
I got one by saving money from doing work for neighbours, friends of my parents, collecting cans and cashing them in and it was a hard slog, but I got what I wanted because I wanted it bad enough and found a way.

[Crimson Sky]

uh hello is anyone even going to help me out here, ive posted 2 threads that have been up for a week on the first one and i got 1 post and thats it, cmon are you guys gunna help me out or not

No allowance, but then again no chores. My mom stays home all day so we dont need to do chores




People will help you out if they feel like helping you out. We arent your friggin' personal tech support team. I had lots of helpful info to give you before you put up this post. ;) Now you can do your own search chores somewhere else.

[azminisk8r]

lo this thread aint about cash im asking about a decent cooler, ppl keep talking about making money which i dont really care about

[azminisk8r]

oh yeah and btw about the people dying on a trimontly basis, i wasnt kidding. kinda sux for them no offense to them.
btw im not complaining this thread keeps going off topic

plz just list a few decent coolers, i would much appreciate it. you know actually getting some advice

[MaxOC]

hmm the corsair nautilus sounds good look on newegg, but i dont know of any others

[Crimson Sky]

a sub $100 water cooling system is a noob toy. If you want serious oc capability you have to pay $125+ for each waterblock. Peltier cooling is also expensive if you want to do it right. It takes a second dedicated peltier power supply that can draw the amperage needed for heating/cooling the plates. It also requires careful insulation of the CPU from condensation because the plates get frosty.

the silver knight is a POS.

[Bucko]

You know i hate child labor laws right now, i need lots of cash, like 400, and i have 0 way to make it. No allowance, but then again no chores. My mom stays home all day so we dont need to do chores

So you whine you need money, then....


ppl keep talking about making money which i dont really care about

Riiight...
You say you have no money, you can't get what you need, but you tehn say you don't care about having the money you were complaining about not having earlier.


you know actually getting some advice

You were getting advice to help you out. But smeg it, you seem like a whiney little bitch, so I'm not going to bother helping you anymore.
I'll spend my time helping others around here instead.

[azminisk8r]

screw it im leaving the forum, last 5 threads ive gotten all trash from you and no advice, i went to OC forum and got 2 good OC watersystems for 150 in less than 10 minutes goodbye mother****ers

[Bucko]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out...

[.Maleficus.]

...It's topics like this that tempt me to write a guide on "How to ask questions the right way" or "How to get responses to your thread".

Anyone interested?

[Zephik]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out...


...It's topics like this that tempt me to write a guide on "How to ask questions the right way" or "How to get responses to your thread".

Anyone interested?

You know, I actually agree with you both on this one. People like this aren't a big problem or anything, but its still pretty annoying at times. There is just simply a certain way to do things. Some people don't get it, some people do. If it means that the people who don't get it don't show up around here anymore and that the people who do get it keep coming back for more? Seems fine to me. It's a situation that we can only benefit from.

That, and its not like he brought a whole lot of mods to the community if any at all. If he did bring a few mods to the table? Well sorry, but I don't remember anything worth remembering or mentioning.

azminisk8r, sorry it didn't work out for ya man.


is a under 100$ water cooler worse or better than a thermoelectric cooler?
post some suggested links to items please, and will thermoelectric get below 20C if at stock idle?
is the silver knight better or worse than a cheap thermoelectric

We gave you our answer.


A cooler can only get the temprature as low as ambient temperature of the room. If your room is 25 degrees, you won't ever get to 20 degrees.

Cheap water cooling is normally as good as an expensive heatsink cooler.

Which I stand by. But you didn't seem to get it. For what you want, its just not going to happen. Save up your monies and get something that will really impress yourself, online modding communities, and maybe even your friends and/or family. But mostly yourself. You would not be happy with yourself if you bought a cheapo cooler and tried to unsuccessfully overclock. You could however, get a _small_ overclock with a cheapo water cooler if you do alot of research on some products first. I would suggest the Thermaltake Silent Water, it has pretty good reviews. But I would not suggest it for overclocking. If you want to get a nice overclock, spend some time and custom build your own instead of buying a kit. You'll be better off that way even if it does cost more.

Hope you figure something out that works for you. We tried at least.

I would say "don't let the door hit you on the way out" but... last I checked we don't have a door. :P

[.Maleficus.]

I would say "don't let the door hit you on the way out" but... last I checked we don't have a door. :P
:p

If it's ok with mods and everyone else, I will go ahead and write something up.

[Crimson Sky]

screw it im leaving the forum, last 5 threads ive gotten all trash from you and no advice, i went to OC forum and got 2 good OC watersystems for 150 in less than 10 minutes goodbye mother****ers


Here i was ready to send the kid a Danger Den 80 watt peltier I have collecting dust in my closet. Oh well. Buh-bye now.

[Crimson Sky]

:p

If it's ok with mods and everyone else, I will go ahead and write something up.


Thanks, go for it.

[simon275]

oh yeah and btw about the people dying on a trimontly basis, i wasnt kidding. kinda sux for them no offense to them.
btw im not complaining this thread keeps going off topic

plz just list a few decent coolers, i would much appreciate it. you know actually getting some advice

http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7013

To late aren't I?

[Crimson Sky]

http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7013

To late aren't I?


nah you're not too late, the guy was a dollar short ;)

[.Maleficus.]

http://thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?p=89211#post89211

Enjoy. If I forgot something, let me know.

[Bucko]

screw it im leaving the forum, last 5 threads ive gotten all trash from you and no advice,

Never mind about things like the photo tutorial on how to remove fan blades and other things...

I guess none of that is advice.