Problems with computer freezing.

[Greco101]

Went to go on my pc this morning and it was asleep.

Moved the mouse... hit space... wouldn't wake up! it went into a coma! NOOO

...anyways.

I shut down manually and I got that screen that everyone loves.

Restart in safe mode?
Restart with command prompt?

Restart in the last known working configurations?

Restart normally




Nothing worked and I had to reformat... any idea what happened? :(

[.Maleficus.]

Bad OC? Huge virus? From your description, anything could have happened. What were you doing before you went to bed? Did you OC? We need specifics.

[Durrthock]

Probably a corrupt file. happened to me once. Took four hours of dos to fix it. Eh

[Greco101]

I don't know how to OC so I've never attempted.

It was running fine last night?

When it tried booting in safe mode or normal, it ran down a list of files, flashed to a blue screen, started to boot, then went back to that option screen. :think:

[Greco101]

came home today and my computer was in a coma again... it restarted fine but it's starting to piss me off. theres no reason for it.

the orange light comes on, on the monitor and the computer as if hibernating... but it never comes back.

I was supposed to be ordering for my custom this weekend but my grandma didn't come through. oh well, I'm not gunna bitch cuz she definitely doesn't need to do this for me.

[Crimson Sky]

sounds like the harddrive is borked. could be a bad read arm bearing or bad sectors.

[Omega]

Get a new Hard Drive.

[CanaBalistic]

Get a new Hard Drive.

Or you could get a copy of the manufactures diagnostic tool and make sure its a bad drive before you spend money on a new one which might not be the problem at all.

Do you have S.M.A.R.T. enabled on your drive(s)?


It might be a bad RAID controler if its a SATA drive?

If its not SATA, try switching it to your other IDE channel and use another molex connector.

You might have had a power surge in the middle of the night. Do you have a surge protector connected?

[Drum Thumper]

You might have had a power surge in the middle of the night. Do you have a surge protector connected?

Could have been a brown out also--that's where your power slumps.

Likely? Probably not, but one never knows...

Did any other electronics in your house get 'borked', as Crimson put it?

[Greco101]

I've never heard of S.M.A.R.T? I checked the properties of my C and D and didn't see anything like that?

I checked my power option props and hibernation was enabled but my options were all set to "never" including "system hibernate."

I have IDE. It's an old HP 563w.

[.Maleficus.]

S.M.A.R.T would be an option in the BIOS.

[Greco101]

Should it be enabled? If it already is, should I disable it?

[Greco101]

I forgot to mention...

came to my computer this morning, went through the routine of manual restart...

the desktop was a pastel blue... i checked the settings and it was in the "other" section which was very strange to me. Also, even though the "appearance settings" are set to "Windows XP Style" "Silver" color scheme...


the inner parts of a window, instead of being grey, they were a vanillaish white. o.O wtf?

I'll Photoshop some SS's to show you what it looked like. (I reapplied the settings it was set to and it changed it back).

Also, I'll post some SS's of the SpeedFan program.

Thanks guys for the help. I'm really lost of this one :?

[Greco101]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/BlackS3ven/weird.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/BlackS3ven/desktopcolor.jpg


Here are some screens of that program:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/BlackS3ven/S.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/BlackS3ven/readings.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/BlackS3ven/info.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/BlackS3ven/clock.jpg

[CanaBalistic]

Self-Monitoring, Analysis, and Reporting Technology, or S.M.A.R.T., is a monitoring system for computer hard disks to detect and report on various indicators of reliability, in the hope of anticipating failures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Monitoring,_Analysis,_and_Reporting_Technology

I would advise doing a registry scann aswell. Many problems arise from a F'd up registry.

WTF? There is no download link for speed fan on the download page... Do i have to register first?
[edit]
Found it. Man do i hate thoes stupid content link adverts. If TBSC ever gets thoes i'll resign my membership :).

[Greco101]

WTF? There is no download link for speed fan on the download page... Do i have to register first?
[edit]
Found it. Man do i hate thoes stupid content link adverts. If TBSC ever gets thoes i'll resign my membership :).


haha, it took me a couple minutes to find too.

I'll run registry booster and see if it helps. I updated my graphics card drivers and it seemed to do the trick since reformat, but why it did it before, I still have no idea.

[Greco101]

It's been doing it about 10 times a day now.

In the mornings, it will do it 4 or 5 times in a row, right when windows boots.

:hurt:

I dunno what to do? If I replace the HD, then I have no windows because in my gay HP, there is no disk...

help? any other ideas of what it could be? any ways to test it?







[EDIT] I just realized I completely messed this post up... haha. What I meant was, with my HP, the windows recovery disk is built in to the HD that is possibly on its deathbed.

[.Maleficus.]

You need this you do (http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/overview.jsp?pcid=br&pvid=ghost10). Get a new hard drive, and use that to ghost your install onto it. Then get rid of the old hard drive and see what's up.

[Luke122]

It's been doing it about 10 times a day now.

In the mornings, it will do it 4 or 5 times in a row, right when windows boots.

:hurt:

I dunno what to do? If I replace the HD, then I have no windows because in my gay HP, there is no disk...

help? any other ideas of what it could be? any ways to test it?

How did you reinstall if you had to reformat?

[The Black Pumpkin]

Problems with computer freezing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/TheBlackPumpkin/frozen-computer.jpg

[Luke122]

Lol :D:D:D:D

[Greco101]

most companies like hp and dell, have a partition made on the disk itself with all of the install software. you know when you get an "F12" option to enter the "setup utility" or something to that effect? that's what it is. Like a previous poster stated, use a ghosting program to ghost the exact image of the drive (OS partition and all) to a new hard drive.

I used Acronis' 15day trial to ghost my server hard drive to a faster drive.

worked flawlessly, and it is fully functional for 15 days. Also very self intuative.

-J

thank you VERY much. I was about to drop 80 bucks in a few hours for Norton Ghost.

Ya, my pc, to reformat, you hit f10.


Because of this, would I just ghost my HP_RECOVERY (D:)? It's about 4gigs
hopefully it can stay on long enough to finish :(

[Greco101]

took me a while to figure out... then I realized I forgot to move the jumper:dead:

After that everything went smoothly. Thanks for the tip on the trial program. Worked great.

I did get one error during the copy...

"Unable to read disk 1 sector 16513786"

I'd assume that's the part that died in the old HD but could this mess up anything since Apparently I didn't get that part of data. Everything seems to be running smoothly and faster.

[Greco101]

ihfsiouv less than an hour later.......

You guessed it...

Computer shut off. What could it possibly be???

[Greco101]

I was looking at the mb and next to the heatsink, a line of those cylinder deals had dried/burnt looking stuff on the tops of them.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/BlackS3ven/untitled.jpg

Can some1 recommend me a mb that is compatible. I hate to bother any of you but just posting this with the ss and all took 2 tries.

[The Black Pumpkin]

:eek: That is NOT good! :neutral:

[Greco101]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/BlackS3ven/ouch1.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/BlackS3ven/ouch.jpg

[Greco101]

finally... shut down 4 times before i could post the pictures. The computer is completely stock and no attempts to OC.

[Greco101]

My pc specs (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=ae&docname=bph07953)


Sorry about multiple posts guys, this pos just keeps shutting down on me and it gets really old typing everything thing out then it shutting down.

[The Black Pumpkin]

****! :eek:

Are the tops bulging? It looks like some are.

If they are, you have capacitor failure, and that is 90% likely to be causing your problem.

Are you good with a soldering gun/iron? If you are, you can replace them. If not, better plan for a new mobo. :(

[Redundant]

If not, better plan for a new mobo. :(
If you do decide to get a new mobo, you may want to look for ones that use a different way to regulate the power to the processor, such as circled in this picture: here (http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/2349/1318801303rz9.jpg) (It's those black, square components)

[Greco101]

By getting a new mb, wouldn't that mean I could no longer use my built in reformat?

I haven't soldered since I was younger, but I'm sure if I took my time I could do a good job. Where would I find replacement parts?

[DaveW]

I haven't soldered since I was younger, but I'm sure if I took my time I could do a good job. Where would I find replacement parts?

Dude, it's not worth the bother. If those have gone, chances are they've taken some of the other stuff with em on the way out.

New Mobo is the way to go. That's been caused either by a poor motherboard or a low quality power supply. If that's a stock PSU, or a cheapy one, then replace that with the motherboard.

That's pretty nasty. Don't think i've ever seen all the caps go like that at once...

-Dave

[Drum Thumper]

Greco, if you want a new case, PM me. I'm pretty sure we could work something out on the cheap. Then it will be a simple matter of ATX board and all the trimmings.

[Greco101]

ya, it lasted just long enough for me to make a wishlist on newegg and custompc. Now I can just use my gf's computer (what i'm on now) to buy my custom this coming weekend, Possibly monday. I already put my computer in a box cuz I didn't feel like messing with that board. :P

Drum, what do you mean by a new case? New case as in a barebone? or the case alone?

[Greco101]

performance-pcs* not custom pcs

[Redundant]

He means a case alone.

Why buy a new PC when you can build it yourself for cheaper?

You only need a mobo, PSU, and a case. (I think HP uses a propriety mobo format and not ATX.)

[moon111]

I have never had to format my harddrive due to a problem. Usually it can be fixed... if you know how. Kind of late to figure out what the problem is now. If you don't know how to fix it, the format is the way to go and has allot of benefits, even if you do know how to fix the problem.

[Redundant]

I haven't soldered since I was younger, but I'm sure if I took my time I could do a good job. Where would I find replacement parts?
In case you still wanted to do this, i found an article on how to:

Fixing Your Motherboard for $15 - Tom's Hardware (http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/05/18/fixing_your_motherboard/)

[Greco101]

My gf's friend loaned me her new laptop for a while so I'm set until I can order my custom. My grandmother is being flaky so I'm using what money I have atm to buy it slowly but surely.

I decided to go with the E6700 Conroe instead of the x6800. I don't understand why the one is so much more for .27ghz when you OC way past that.

[The Black Pumpkin]

The x6800 is more expensize because it's fully unlocked. The entire line is locked at their multipliers (9x, 10x, etc.), but that one can go the whole range.

edit: Greco, if your going to get a whole new system (so to speak), would you consider selling the old mobo to me? Not for much, of course, since it's busted some, but I'd like to try my hand at soldering practice. It'd be a fun project to try and repair it. I'll pm you in the morning with more info.

[Greco101]

Sorry man, its long gone. I stole the heatsinks/processor off of it and trashed it. If I come across any with an obvious and fixable problem, I'll PM you - no need to pay me anything.

[The Black Pumpkin]

:D Oh well...

I probably couldn't do anything with it anyway... :)