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05-21-2007, 02:11 PM
I am looking at getting a tv or moniter for xbox360 gaming and I have no idea where to start. Is 1080i better or 720p? Normally when I play pc games I don't really care about the resolution just the fps and settings. Also will I need to buy separate cables to hook one up.

I don't want to spend more than 500 on the tv (32inches is what I'm hoping for[or bigger If I find a deal]) and cables.

Thanks in advance,

05-21-2007, 04:23 PM
Just get a wide screen monitor thats what I use. Hook it up via vga.

Heres the topic I made about it a year ago.

05-21-2007, 04:25 PM
I dunno about the cables, but this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889022008) is a pretty good deal (w/ good reviews)

That was a really fast search, lemme know if that isn't exactly what you're looking for...

EDIT: or do what Durrthock said; thats what I do

05-21-2007, 04:48 PM
well there are the two you mentioned (I) interlaced and (P) progressive

now the two are very differant, but over all progressive will give you a better looking picture while interlaced can give you a higher resolution, but it can look choppy

there is now i think 1080p but then your talking megabucks..

i would go for a 720p tv because its better quality in the end and also its cheaper then a 1080i tv

05-21-2007, 05:42 PM
30"-40" (http://www.nextag.com/Plasma-LCD--a-Aspect+Ratio-_-16%3A9--a-Screen+Size-_-30%22+-+40%22--zz1080pz500021zB6z5---html) 1080p under $1700 lol. That was a nextag search, it was 32" and 37", with $929 being the lowest for a 32". I am in no way saying this is cheap, but at the same time isn't that much more then a lot of the tv's in the same size range.

05-21-2007, 05:49 PM
Als found this...

1080p vs. 720p -- Which should you buy?
Evan Powell, September 29, 2006

In our recent CEDIA 2006 show review I concluded with some thoughts on the relative merits of 1080p vs. 720p home theater projectors. If you already read that review you have seen the comments below. However, I decided to excerpt the last part of the CEDIA review and repost that information as a separate article to make it more visible to readers who may not be interested in the CEDIA wrap-up.

The big question is this: Now that prices on 1080p projectors have dropped into a range that is accessible by many consumers, will you be better off to go with the new 720p resolution projectors, or should you step up in budget and performance to one of the 1080p products?

Despite all of the hype over the 1080p format, for many buyers this fall the best solution will be to go with one of the new 720p projectors. There are several reasons for this. First, if your viewing material is primarily standard definition DVD and sports on broadcast HDTV, the 1080p projectors will give you almost nothing in image quality that the 720p projectors don't already give you. All HD sports broadcasts from Fox, ESPN, and ABC are in native 720p, and they will look as clear and razor sharp as they can possibly look when displayed on a native 720p projector. The additional resolution of a 1080p projector won't make HD sports broadcasts look any higher in actual resolution since the signals are limited to 720 lines of video information per frame.

Meanwhile, standard definition DVD (in the NTSC world) has only 480 lines of video per frame. On a 720p projector, the DVD signal is rescaled to 720 lines, and on a 1080p projector it is rescaled to 1080 lines. Assuming the use of a high quality upscaling DVD player or video processor, there is the potential that the 1080p image will look very slightly better than the 720p picture. However, the difference will not be dramatic, and in many cases it will not even be noticeable even in a side by side viewing. The reason is that DVD picture quality is fundamentally limited by the fact that there are only 480 lines per frame of video information in the source. So the DVD source cannot use the full resolution power of either a 720p or a 1080p projector.

Now—though standard definition DVD and HD sports broadcasts are what a lot of projector users are primarily interested in, that may not be you. A lot of prime time television programming on CBS, NBC, and other networks is broadcast in 1080i. The new 1080p projectors do have the potential to make this type of programming incrementally sharper than it will appear on most 720p projectors. There will not be a night and day difference, since 1080i signals compressed into 720p displays already look extremely good. But there is the potential for a slightly sharper image from HDTV 1080i broadcasts when using a 1080p projector.

Practically speaking, the most important new video sources that let you get the most out of a 1080p projector are the new high definition DVD formats, HD-DVD and Blu-ray, which are both native 1080p sources. HD-DVD and Blu-ray discs pack a full 1920x1080 resolution per frame of video, and they look their best when displayed on a native 1080p projector or flat panel display. The early adopters of these technologies are the ones who will derive the most immediate benefit from 1080p projectors in the short run. If you consider yourself to be a videophile or a serious hobbyist who spends money to stay out on the cutting edge of video technology, the new flock of 1080p projectors represent a whole new world of opportunity to upgrade your home theater that you won't want to miss.

The bottom line is that 1080p projectors are better and less expensive than ever. Many buyers who want the very best will jump at the change to order one of the new 1080p models now that they are within manageable price ranges. However, the large majority of consumers should not allow themselves to be distracted or consumed by the hype over 1080p—the powerful 720p projectors to hit the market this fall will be the best deals by far for the typical consumer who rents DVDs and watches Sunday sports and Monday Night Football. Either way, if you have not yet stepped up to the experience of very large screen (100" diagonal and larger) home theater, there has never been a better time to do it.

Source: Projector Central (http://www.projectorcentral.com/1080p_720p.htm)

05-21-2007, 11:21 PM
So nobody knows if a special cable is needed to get the best image on the screen?
I guess 720p sounds like the way to go. I don't plan on buying this right now, but after the summer when I get back from my job I'll have some cash burning a hole in my pocket. Once the xbox360 has a price drop I'll pick everything up. I was just wondering what I sould spend the whole summer drooling about. I saw the new pirates game and realised how much I loved platformers, pirates the game is sure to suck but there will be similar games that you can't get on the pc.

05-22-2007, 11:53 AM
Usually an HDMI (http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00mMdaJtfwnQqEM/HDMI-To-HDMI-Cable-KB-A203-.jpg) cable will give the best result, at this time anyways

But I found this (http://digg.com/gaming_news/Xbox_360_Elite_HDMI_to_use_1_2_standard_instead_of _1_3) regarding your Xbox. The current one doesn't support HDMI, the new one will(Xbox 360 Elite)

05-22-2007, 12:15 PM
Found some more info for you.

Source of Info (http://forums.hexus.net/archive/index.php/t-105828.html)

And to took a couple posts from there to make it easier for you:

Hasnath21-04-2007, 12:29 PM
current 360's don't have hdmi, i prefer to use component as the colours seem richer

Funkstar21-04-2007, 12:32 PM
current 360's don't have hdmi, i prefer to use component as the colours seem richer
really?!? well bugger me. sorry letshavesome, i figured that a console that shouted about being HD would have HDMI.

Syd21-04-2007, 01:46 PM
I use the supplied component cable and am very happy with the results at 720p:)

Veles23-04-2007, 12:13 AM
really?!? well bugger me. sorry letshavesome, i figured that a console that shouted about being HD would have HDMI.

I don't think HDMI standard was properly finalised when the 360 was in development, component cables work perfectly well at 1080p though.

boxrick23-04-2007, 06:58 AM
VGA cables are slightly more washed out and the colours arnt quite as vibrant but i find it gives a much more crisp image with much less noticable jaggies because it enables me to output very close to my televisions native res.

However using component cables provides very vibrant colours, but the overall image seems a little "dark" and jaggies are much much more noticable.

I prefer VGA cables myself on my HDTV. running at 1360 x 768 rather than 720p.

GeorgeTuk23-04-2007, 08:47 AM
I use the supplied component cable and am very happy with the results at 720p:)
Me too.

Hope this helps with your cable question. HDMI will be on the new Xbox 360 Elite.

05-22-2007, 12:26 PM
thanks, looks like the supplied cables will do just fine.

05-22-2007, 12:29 PM
Should be, I use component for my standard DVD player and I don't think it's 720p or anything and I like it a lot.

05-22-2007, 03:56 PM
Out of your price range but if come up with $1000 get the westinghouse w3 1080p and can be used a monitor

05-22-2007, 04:01 PM
Would be nice when they can use that technology more efficient(lack of wording).

Some of the articles I read said that 1080p is still a little new and most things right now are broadcast in 720p, but if the TV is setup for 1080, it will be converted. You may or may not notice a difference but never hurts to be ready. :)

05-22-2007, 04:41 PM
In case you guys don't already know, the Xbox 360 Elite is available, right now.

So if you want to pay $80 more for the black color, 100GB bigger HDD, and HDMI, then you should get the Elite instead. Oh, and they changed some stuff on the motherboard (see the Elite thread (http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showpost.php?p=92520&postcount=25))

As for that HDMI 1.3 not supported article above, the the only difference between 1.2 & 1.3 is something about the surround sound.

05-22-2007, 04:51 PM
I guess I need to work on my wording. :) "the new one will", that sounds like it hasn't been released yet doesn't it. I would just take the component video in 720p and save the 80 bucks for a game or 2.

05-22-2007, 06:55 PM
I think the 720p will be fine. I only have a laptop anyways and it would be wasted money for that added ability.

05-22-2007, 10:41 PM
"Problem solved from your end" :)

05-22-2007, 10:53 PM
Not to hijack or anything, but would a 42" LCD HDTV be good for PC gaming too? I've been thinking about moving my PC to the living room one day for the hell of it, permitting I have an HD cable for my video card, that is, lol.

05-22-2007, 10:57 PM
One way to find out. I have used our 54" rear projection with analog video before and didn't have any problems. Well...I did have one, the wording was near imposssible to read, but gaming was awesome! lol

05-24-2007, 06:02 PM
My gaming TV of choice is the 48" samsung in my living room :D

05-25-2007, 02:37 PM

05-25-2007, 05:14 PM
what the....??? lol