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Spawn-Inc
06-05-2007, 11:53 PM
simply put, this is a amazing saw.
Sjan1AzNKWg
stop saws (http://www.sawstop.com/) website
if i did alot of wood work i would get one accept its $2,799.00 US.
Zephik
06-06-2007, 01:05 AM
Damn, that is NICE!
rendermandan
06-06-2007, 01:10 PM
This is the one I use. http://www.northwestpowertools.com/table/1792000k.htm
Spawn-Inc
06-06-2007, 01:50 PM
you should upgrade then, accept that each break charge is 69.99. that would suck to accedently touch the blade on the side and have it go off. good thing they put a key to turn it off.
tybrenis
06-06-2007, 03:14 PM
I've been considering adding a saw stop to my shop as I've been planning my soon to be built woodshop. Even if you ignore the amazing technology behind the blade braking they're sitll great table saws.
Zephik
06-06-2007, 07:00 PM
I've been considering adding a saw stop to my shop as I've been planning my soon to be built woodshop. Even if you ignore the amazing technology behind the blade braking they're sitll great table saws.
I swear, you are the coolest kid I know. lol Just the fact that you were CONSIDERING it is awesome.
Btw, how much does one of these things even go for anyways?
tybrenis
06-06-2007, 07:25 PM
I swear, you are the coolest kid I know. lol Just the fact that you were CONSIDERING it is awesome.
Btw, how much does one of these things even go for anyways?
Ha, thanks, Snow.
if i did alot of wood work i would get one accept its $2,799.00 US.
Andrew1977
06-07-2007, 05:13 PM
If haven't already, the forum over at sawmillcreek.org has quite a few posts from people interested in buying or have already bought a Saw Stop.
I'm still using a dewalt 744s. But the local woodworkers source here has a powermatic like Rendermandan's. I actually get this urge to just grab the fence and give it a hug every time I see it.
moojoe
06-08-2007, 06:53 PM
im pretty sure the scene shop I work at is replacing our two aging rockwell-delta's with these guys. I havent really heard much about them, but after seeing that video...damn. cant wait to use them.
Crimson Sky
06-09-2007, 07:09 AM
Too much Made in China high-tech plastic crap on that saw for my liking. Period. Besides I want my saw to cut hotdogs too!
It looks like an interesting saw, I've seen this about 5 years ago. I was a carpenter/cabinet maker for 20 years, and I've seen far too many shop workers who don't have the right fingers to pick their nose properly with.
While technology can help prevent accidents, its up to the craftsperson to practice safety. You will not see blade guards in most shops, they are more dangerous than they are worth. Once pine pitch builds up on that clear plastic, its useless. You should always be able to watch the blade cut the material at point of kerf.
First day on a job at a custom cabinet and millwork shop, I discovered that no less than three of the bench machinists (and one of the owners) had sacrificed fingers in that very shop. They didnt have hands anymore, they had lobster claws. By lunch time I packed my box, gave a quick salute to the owner as I walked out and said "See ya later, dude!". This was not a shop that cared about safety.
xRyokenx
06-09-2007, 01:41 PM
I agree with you Crimson, safety is key. I have never had any real surgery except for three stitches when I was like three years old, so let's keep it that way. I like having all my limbs. That and it would be quite annoying to type with only a few fingers on your hands, screw that.
Spawn-Inc
06-09-2007, 01:44 PM
ya if i was building a shop i would go for something esle but if i have no limit i would go with one.
tybrenis
06-09-2007, 01:59 PM
You're right about the Chinese outsourcing, Crimson - but sadly thats just how it is with most companies these days. There are very few table saws that are still made in America and you end up paying a lot more for them. The sawstop is one fine piece of equipment, none the less. Most of the other brands outsource to Taiwanese and Chinese manufacturers, choosing their standard of quality, usually set by the Chinese companies. Sawstop appears to be one of the few companies that actually sets their own standards.
As for cutting hotdogs, you can do so if you wish. You can cut conductive materials but turning off the blade stop feature.
You're also right about the blade guards that build up with wood and you can't see the blade through. They're fixing this problem with overhead blade guards with dust collection etc. I personally just prefer a riving knife, which has been standard in Europe for years now. There's rumor that they're making it required in the US as well by the year 2011 or something like that.
Redundant
06-09-2007, 04:53 PM
I've never even used a saw and I want one of those! lol :p
Spawn-Inc
06-09-2007, 06:24 PM
I personally just prefer a riving knife, which has been standard in Europe for years now. There's rumor that they're making it required in the US as well by the year 2011 or something like that.
i have a cheapo $100 mastercarft 10" table saw and it has a, what i would call a imitation riving knife. accept its not sharp, doesn't line up, and gets in the way.
i like that the stop saw has a toolfree guard and riving knife mine need an allen key. i keep the guard on for most of the time but when you want 45 degree cuts its harder to do with it on.
Crimson Sky
06-11-2007, 12:45 AM
You're right about the Chinese outsourcing, Crimson - but sadly thats just how it is with most companies these days.
Not to go TOO far off topic, but the wife and I have both agreed to live Chinese Product Free (including our local take-out joints) until their government begins to address certain food safety guidelines. Many manufacturers have been cutting corners FOR DECADES by adding known poisons to their human/animal consumption products that are shipped around the world.
More importantly however is the ignorance of basic human rights for their own people.
/ot_rant
Spawn-Inc
06-11-2007, 01:34 AM
Not to go TOO far off topic, but the wife and I have both agreed to live Chinese Product Free (including our local take-out joints) until their government begins to address certain food safety guidelines. Many manufacturers have been cutting corners FOR DECADES by adding known poisons to their human/animal consumption products that are shipped around the world.
More importantly however is the ignorance of basic human rights for their own people.
/ot_rant
so you house doesn't have 1 thing from there...!??!
Crimson Sky
06-11-2007, 07:51 AM
so you house doesn't have 1 thing from there...!??!
It would be pretty stupid to discard what we've already purchased, so its fairly obvious that this is a plan we have in effect going forward.
Airbozo
06-11-2007, 11:26 AM
.....I was a carpenter/cabinet maker for 20 years, ......
If I would have known this I would have picked your brain while you were out here. The wife and I are planning custom cabinetry for our Kitchen and plan on doing most of it ourselves. The main tool I am missing right now is a tablesaw. My Father-in-law and I are going to go in on one together later this summer.
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EDIT: The SO and I have been doing the Chinese free for a couple of months (for human rights issues). Let me tell you it is harder than you think. So much comes from China these days. We are also boycotting the Olympics until the Chinese government addresses the Child labor issues. They have children slaving away making Olympic Mascot toys and related material. Who let this government into the WTO? Oh wait, that's right, they are a US favored nation...:rolleyes:
Spawn-Inc
06-11-2007, 12:44 PM
It would be pretty stupid to discard what we've already purchased, so its fairly obvious that this is a plan we have in effect going forward.
i thought of that an hour or so after i posted it...
like airbozo said, it sounds like its hard to do since so much stuff comes from them.
Tale Gunner
06-13-2007, 04:52 PM
I have purchased a Stop Saw. (just waiting for the delivery. The whole thing cost me $4K) I know that the carriages for replacement are $70. The blade can be damaged on activation. You should go to the site and read some of the testimonials about this thing including the pro golfer. Only a nick on the finger.
Tale Gunner
06-13-2007, 04:55 PM
If I would have known this I would have picked your brain while you were out here. The wife and I are planning custom cabinetry for our Kitchen and plan on doing most of it ourselves. The main tool I am missing right now is a tablesaw. My Father-in-law and I are going to go in on one together later this summer.
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EDIT: The SO and I have been doing the Chinese free for a couple of months (for human rights issues). Let me tell you it is harder than you think. So much comes from China these days. We are also boycotting the Olympics until the Chinese government addresses the Child labor issues. They have children slaving away making Olympic Mascot toys and related material. Who let this government into the WTO? Oh wait, that's right, they are a US favored nation...:rolleyes:
Hey Im no expert but I can help with some of the questions. I do wood working as a hobby. Check out my work on the featured works.
http://thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6712
Crimson Sky
06-14-2007, 11:18 AM
The SO and I have been doing the Chinese free for a couple of months (for human rights issues). Let me tell you it is harder than you think. So much comes from China these days.
As a modder it also puts me in a strange position, what with all the comp products manufactured there. :think:
Crimson Sky
06-14-2007, 11:19 AM
To me, Stop Saws are like Volvos. Those who drive one, should.
Zephik
06-14-2007, 12:30 PM
To me, Stop Saws are like Volvos. Those who drive one, should.
Words of wisdom for sure, but I'm not sure if I totally understand it. Is there something wrong with Volvo's? THIS (http://www.cecilandlarter.co.uk/volvo/images/i-main-s40.jpg) looks pretty sweet to me! Fairly cheap, decent horsepower, decent-good mpg and good looking to top it off! Their website (http://www.volvocars.us/models/s40/) has some pretty fun music too. ^_^
lol I guess I fit under the "those who drive one, should" category?
I would take this sexy beast (http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/01/lasvegasmuseum/image/1969mustang.jpg) over any car any day though. lol that has to count for something right?
Crimson Sky
06-14-2007, 07:20 PM
Words of wisdom for sure, but I'm not sure if I totally understand it.
From the way I've seen some Volvo owners drive, they need all the protection they can get.
jdbnsn
06-14-2007, 08:16 PM
Originally Posted by Airbozo
The SO and I have been doing the Chinese free for a couple of months (for human rights issues). Let me tell you it is harder than you think. So much comes from China these days.
That's what I was thinking, I can't imagine trying to find subsitutes for all the chinese products used in everyday life not to mention computers!
Tale Gunner
06-15-2007, 04:15 PM
Just so everyone knows I chose the Stop Saw because of problems I have seen and watched in my life. I have already lost a finger to an accident. I don't wish to loose any more. So say what you like but being one of the unforunates out there that have had the loss of a finger or more...... I choose to prevent donations the hospitals any more.
Tale Gunner
06-15-2007, 04:18 PM
simply put, this is a amazing saw.
Sjan1AzNKWg
stop saws (http://www.sawstop.com/) website
if i did alot of wood work i would get one accept its $2,799.00 US.
Thats without shipping. Add $400 for shipping since wood shops do not stock this saw. Then if you want a rip fence its more. I know what I'm talking about. Ive ordered one. $4000.
The pricing on SawStop will be the same everywhere. Here is a quote:
3hp 230v Sawstop $2799.00
36" Fence & Rails 329.00
36" Extension Table 79.00
Freight 400.00
Total before Sales Tax $3607.00
Thanks for your interest.
Jim Baumgardner
Woodcraft - Hilliard
peoplefire
06-18-2007, 04:10 PM
oh wow thats a nice saw O_O
moon111
06-18-2007, 05:24 PM
To me, Stop Saws are like Volvos. Those who drive one, should.
Allot of the Volvo image is just that, an image. There's other safer cars, that you might already be driving. Most of that is marketing.
If I were spending allot of money on a saw, it would have a sliding platform and a laminate cutting blade.
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