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Andrew1977
06-06-2007, 01:49 AM
Need advice on sanding down the raised edges of paint that were created when I sprayed black over the masked sidepanel. When I pulled up the tape the
edges were pretty thick so I know I did something wrong. Just wondering what I should do.
Anyone with advice?
Spawn-Inc
06-06-2007, 02:10 AM
how many coats did you use and what kind of paint? if i understand what your saying then simply putting clear coats and wet sanding then should fix it.
http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/4763/2348814030100511463S600x600Q85.jpg
the yellow is a clear coat.
the black is the black paint.
the red is the base coat or your red colour paint.
the grey is the sheet metal.
pretend that this is a cross section of the panel your painting. the 2 missing parts in your black coat are the parts you masked off and have now removed the tape. so your saying its to much of a difference. if you just spray some clear coat and wet sanding a couple of times i would think it would smooth out.
note this is pretty much just a guess, i tried my hand at wet sanding and painting but didn't follow through because it would have taken to long to properly do. so i never actually did it.
DaveW
06-06-2007, 07:34 AM
That's good advice and ideas from Spawn, so +Rep there. :)
-Dave
Andrew1977
06-06-2007, 03:18 PM
What brand of clear coat do you guys recommend?
Has to be an aerosol since I don't have a paint gun at the moment. Also needs to be oil based enamel since the paint is oil enamel and the book I've been reading says to not spray lacquer over enamel.
Redundant
06-06-2007, 04:46 PM
What brand of clear coat do you guys recommend?
I'm pretty sure you should try to use the same brand as the other layers of paint. That's what I've read on this site, anyway.
Andrew1977
06-06-2007, 05:13 PM
Well the black is rustoleum pro. gloss black oil based enamel. My dad has a can of Duplicolor Effex clear coat but I can't seem to find any info regarding it's contents. Anybody know if it's lacquer or enamel?
tybrenis
06-06-2007, 05:36 PM
I'm not sure about the Duplicolor but I do know that duplicolor makes a lot of lacquer based paints vrs. enamels. However, for a clear coat I'd recomend Krylon Krystal Clear, its an acrylic clearcoat that will not react with your color coats. It's a great clearcoat, it seals real well and if you desire it you can get a nice, deep gloss out of it.
Spawn-Inc
06-06-2007, 05:36 PM
I'm pretty sure you should try to use the same brand as the other layers of paint. That's what I've read on this site, anyway.
i think thats they way to go. if you still have paint left over from spraying your side panal i would find and test the two paints on a scrap piece of metal. do your base coat of red then tape half and paint black then remove the tape and try and get the same situatuion as you have on your side panel and use the clear coat you have. if it comes out good then it should be fine on your side panel.
I'm not sure about the Duplicolor but I do know that duplicolor makes a lot of lacquer based paints vrs. enamels. However, for a clear coat I'd recomend Krylon Krystal Clear, its an acrylic clearcoat that will not react with your color coats. It's a great clearcoat, it seals real well and if you desire it you can get a nice, deep gloss out of it.
or do that...
Spawn is correct. I had to do that exact thing on my mouse mod. The sticker is about a 16th/inch raised off of the actual surface of the mouse. After about 7 coats of clear and some wet sanding, it came out smooth. (link in my sig if you want to see it)
Commando
06-08-2007, 06:27 PM
You need to sand down those pesky edges before the clear-coat. Be careful though. This is a little tricky. The way the pros do it is by using a fine Scotch Brite pad. They usually go over every coat of a design lightly with one of those pads to keep it from getting a textured look in the end. This also keeps you from getting raised edges in the clear.
Hope this helps.
Andrew1977
06-09-2007, 02:55 PM
Couple more photos of how it looks right now. I'm assuming all the glossy areas in black are going to be orange peel correct?
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8531/cimg3199gt9.jpg
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/6018/cimg3201ra1.jpg
Also, this case is for my friend and mine is a TT Kandalf LCS and the powdercoat on it is pretty thick. How far should I sand into it?
Andrew1977
06-10-2007, 05:22 PM
I picked up some scotchbrite scuffpads and so I think I have the orange peel under control now but does anyone know how to repair this scratch?
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/6018/cimg3201ra1.jpg
Redundant
06-11-2007, 01:10 PM
Does anyone know how to repair this scratch?
Auto body filler?
Spawn-Inc
06-11-2007, 01:47 PM
if its deep enough then yes, body filler. otherwise i would think more paint would be fine.
tybrenis
06-11-2007, 02:59 PM
Body filler is WAY overkill. At the very most you could use some spot putty, or glaze filler etc. thats used to fill pinholes after you apply bondo. I would recomend sanding the immediate area around the scratch and then repainting. That way, the area around the scratch slopes down to the bare metal rather than drop straight into the "ditch" that is the scratch, if you know what I mean.
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