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Crimson Sky
06-06-2007, 08:14 AM
Recently, a situation has here on the forums has prompted me to create a new forum rule. Please allow me to explain.

The internet allows all of us a certain degree of anonymity based on our personal levels of discretion and online behavior. It is your right, duty and your priviledge to keep personal information from leaking onto the community forums. As a public figure, this is not always easy for me to do. But the rest of you have an obligation to police your own actions regarding how much personal information you give about yourself and your day-to-day interactions with the world beyond the forums.

With that said, Please do NOT post the following information about yourself or others on the forums:

-Contracts and legal agreements (this should be a no-brainer)
-Documents with personal information such as addresses and phone numbers
-Pictures of Photo ID's or Licence Plates


Please help me to help protect your rights and make this a safe journey for all of us.

-Paul.C

AJ@PR
06-06-2007, 08:44 AM
Wow.

I'm not going to ask what mess somebody got you into, but, this can server as a lesson to us all.

Those three points that you make can be a 'General Guide' for this.

This is definitely something worth talking about openly.
In these days and age, things are not like they used to.

Thanks P.C.!

GT40_GearHead
06-06-2007, 09:23 AM
interesting...

some questions:

- why do you not want to leak your address and phone number ?

- what's the deal with the licence plates ?

Crimson Sky
06-06-2007, 10:12 AM
interesting...

some questions:

- why do you not want to leak your address and phone number ?

- what's the deal with the licence plates ?

that is quite obvious.

nil8
06-06-2007, 10:14 AM
Those should be general guidelines for the internet as a whole.
Basically, don't be stupid with your personal information. Keep it to yourself.
Shouldn't this be added to the rulebook?

xRyokenx
06-06-2007, 10:23 AM
Dude, I have no pictures of myself on the web, I do not have my address, my MySpace is set so only friends can view it, I do not give my address to just anyone, etc. etc. These new rules should help out those that need the guidance, lol. But yeah, the internet is a dangerous place, and I've been careful about what to post here due to the massive amount of unknown visitors compared to the amount of regular users we have here. That and there are people whom can portray themselves as whoever they want. Hell, my brother made himself like a British guy once, it was funny, but an eye-opener, lol.

Airbozo
06-06-2007, 11:35 AM
After going through some crap with some crazy wingnut with just enough keyboard skills to find out all my information (couldn't get the wifes info due to some privacy stuff(ask me about that one)), then try and use it against me, I am all for this. After 5 years, restraining orders, bullets in my house, multiple calls to the police AND dragging the wife off of this wacko, (she was going to seriously harm this fool for shooting at our animals and she beat me to him) I know the danger of too much info in the hands of the wrong people.
(good story about this nut though...) (and the good guys win!)

I am a little more lax on the internet than I should be, but I do secure my info, shred _every_ piece of paper with my name or addy on it, and never give out most of my personal to anybody. "." While I don't care about license plate info, it can be used to trace you (or whomever). In California there are privacy laws preventing just anyone from getting your info from your plates. Ymmv.

So yeah, while I enjoy meeting all you anon's online, I don't really want to see who you are in real life unless it is in person.

jdbnsn
06-06-2007, 11:53 AM
Good Lord Boz, what mess!

Eclecticos
06-06-2007, 04:32 PM
My God AirBozo sorry to hear about that.

rendermandan
06-06-2007, 04:34 PM
well, I would assume you guys have figured out that my name is Dan. --Oh ****, don't go drain my account please!!!! -lol

xRyokenx
06-06-2007, 04:34 PM
If someone sends me a box with Pooo. . in it im gonna be pissed :D


*Gets an evil look on his face, and then realizes he unfortunately does not have Eclecticos's address, and then looks disappointed*

There goes my evil plan. :(

DaveW
06-06-2007, 04:34 PM
Pretty good points man. Although I'd say it's not our job to make people look after their identities, I'd definitely agree that after recent events we'd be better keeping all this sort of stuff away from the boards. It's cleaner and causes less hassle. Good rules. :)

-Dave

xRyokenx
06-06-2007, 04:36 PM
I was also thinking that we should have an area for only registered users, like announcements and stuff, mainly about stuff like the TS server, post it there so that we don't have oddball people whom we don't know showing up. We'd also get more registered users due to the whole "curiosity killed the cat" business... or in this case "curiosity registered the anonymous user."

Drum Thumper
06-06-2007, 04:39 PM
I was also thinking that we should have an area for only registered users, like announcements and stuff, mainly about stuff like the TS server, post it there so that we don't have oddball people whom we don't know showing up. We'd also get more registered users due to the whole "curiosity killed the cat" business... or in this case "curiosity registered the anonymous user."


The problem there is that it is quite easy to become a registered user. If it wasn't so easy, we wouldn't have spambots spamming boards in general.

You guys do a great job on that, but I do manage a different board, and it seems like all I do is ban names and IP addresses that the spambots throw at me.

xRyokenx
06-06-2007, 04:41 PM
Well, we would still have more registered than anonymous users, it would help keep out "the riff raff," I think... well, there's a good reason somewhere, I just can't recall it at the moment. :think:

DaveW
06-06-2007, 04:47 PM
You guys do a great job on that, but I do manage a different board, and it seems like all I do is ban names and IP addresses that the spambots throw at me.

We have 3 basic systems:

1) Capcha Images (works sometimes)
2) Our own custom questions when registering: the spambots would need to be programmed with our answers. This keeps out a lot more.
3) Finally, the server times how long it takes you to fill in the registration form and reply to the mail. If you do it in superhuman time, you're a bot.

Since Christmas, that caught almost all of our spambots, but in the last week they've even managed to get through all that crap. I feel like I'm the machines in the matrix revolutions trying to stop Neo getting in on that damnable ship of his. Total overkill on our part-but somehow, they're still getting through!


Well, we would still have more registered than anonymous users, it would help keep out "the riff raff," I think... well, there's a good reason somewhere, I just can't recall it at the moment.

Don't forget you can't see Crimson's logs till you register. That's a hell of a reason to join up.

-Dave

Eclecticos
06-06-2007, 04:47 PM
Get cards with identity theft protection, then theres is not much to worry about.

DaveW
06-06-2007, 04:48 PM
Get cards with identity theft protection, then theres is not much to worry about.

Not everyone who performs Identity theft does it for money. With enough info, they can take a card out in your name anyway.

-Dave

Eclecticos
06-06-2007, 04:53 PM
*Gets an evil look on his face, and then realizes he unfortunately does not have Eclecticos's address, and then looks disappointed*

There goes my evil plan. :(


LOL. I gonna send you some roadkill. :) Just Kidding.

xRyokenx
06-06-2007, 05:04 PM
Well, Dave, you could always make a thread that has to be posted in before posting anywhere else, a pain, I know, but it's helped on a few other forums I've seen, and makes a "binding legal contract" to behave or your ass is grass.

@Eclecticos:

Yay! Dinner! No more eating junk food! Yes! :D

Airbozo
06-06-2007, 05:15 PM
.....
3) Finally, the server times how long it takes you to fill in the registration form and reply to the mail. If you do it in superhuman time, you're a bot.

....

-Dave

Or my wife at the keyboard...

I swear there is smoke coming off her fingers when she types... That would explain thew warped keyboard :D


Seriously I think you guys are doing a great job at the spam stuff. I have only seen a few myself besides the email I get when someone complains...

As far as someone getting your personal info, they can be as kind as they want (sending lurds to your house), or as nasty as they want, and it can end up costing you humility or lots of $$. Would you stand on the corner in the worst part of the city and shout your information? Just pretend that whatever you say will be used against you for fun and profit...

Redundant
06-06-2007, 05:41 PM
Since Christmas, that caught almost all of our spambots, but in the last week they've even managed to get through all that crap. I feel like I'm the machines in the matrix revolutions trying to stop Neo getting in on that damnable ship of his. Total overkill on our part-but somehow, they're still getting through!
You should change your name to The Architect or an Agent. hehe :p


Don't forget you can't see Crimson's logs till you register. That's a hell of a reason to join up.
That was my original reason to join. :up:

xRyokenx
06-06-2007, 05:44 PM
I joined due to progbuddy's recommendation. This is a great place to hang out at and chat, and you guys have all been helpful with me and my computer problems, which I just realized I hadn't had any of lately... let's see... I have a PCI Wireless card I just ordered, let's put that in and see what I can screw up.

Just kidding. :D

Durrthock
06-06-2007, 09:24 PM
Hmm, looks through 86 pages of google search of "durrthock" well no ones ever gonna bother looking through all of that.

Yeah this is really a just a general rule for the interwebs. So basic point don't be an idiot and tell people where you live.

Crimson Sky
06-06-2007, 09:41 PM
Don't forget you can't see Crimson's logs till you register. That's a hell of a reason to join up.

-Dave

I actually changed that so everyone can view--I was sending potential clients to pages that had brick walls :dead: