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Ironcat
07-12-2007, 01:45 PM
BEIJING, China (AP) -- Chopped cardboard, softened with an industrial chemical and flavored with fatty pork and powdered seasoning, is a main ingredient in batches of steamed buns sold in one Beijing neighborhood, state television said.

The report, aired late Wednesday on China Central Television, highlights the country's problems with food safety despite government efforts to improve the situation.

Countless small, often illegally run operations exist across China and make money cutting corners by using inexpensive ingredients or unsavory substitutes. They are almost impossible to regulate.

State TV's undercover investigation features the shirtless, shorts-clad maker of the buns, called baozi, explaining the contents of the product sold in Beijing's sprawling Chaoyang district.

Baozi are a common snack in China, with an outer skin made from wheat or rice flour and and a filling of sliced pork. Cooked by steaming in immense bamboo baskets, they are similar to but usually much bigger than the dumplings found on dim sum menus familiar to many Americans.

The hidden camera follows the man, whose face is not shown, into a ramshackle building where steamers are filled with the fluffy white buns, traditionally stuffed with minced pork.

The surroundings are filthy, with water puddles and piles of old furniture and cardboard on the ground.

"What's in the recipe?" the reporter asks. "Six to four," the man says.

"You mean 60 percent cardboard? What is the other 40 percent?" asks the reporter. "Fatty meat," the man replies.

The bun maker and his assistants then give a demonstration on how the product is made.

Squares of cardboard picked from the ground are first soaked to a pulp in a plastic basin of caustic soda -- a chemical base commonly used in manufacturing paper and soap -- then chopped into tiny morsels with a cleaver. Fatty pork and powdered seasoning are stirred in.

Soon, steaming servings of the buns appear on the screen. The reporter takes a bite.

"This baozi filling is kind of tough. Not much taste," he says. "Can other people taste the difference?"

"Most people can't. It fools the average person," the maker says. "I don't eat them myself."

The police eventually showed up and shut down the operation.

nil8
07-12-2007, 01:51 PM
Ah, reminds me of ramen and vienna sausage month.

It's because pork prices are on the rise in China. It's all about cutting costs.

jdbnsn
07-12-2007, 04:03 PM
mmmmmm......cardboard.....


http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f395/jdbnsn/TBCS/Homer_Simpson_2006.png

Ironcat
07-13-2007, 08:53 AM
It's because pork prices are on the rise in China.

*and today in the news...

Chinese Pork Attracting Robbers
Friday, July 13, 2007

BEIJING — Stick your hands up, we're after the pork.

Robbers in southern China have started stealing pork because rising prices have made the meat, a staple in the country, so valuable, a newspaper reported Friday.

The Shenzhen Jing newspaper said a peddler was robbed of his motorcycle and load of 275 pounds of pork while on his way to a market in Shenzhen, just over the border from Hong Kong.

He was robbed of the motorcycle and the pork by four suspects who rushed from a minibus and threaten him with a knife, according to report.

"They took the pork because it was more expensive than the motorcycle," a local policeman was quoted as saying. Pork prices have risen more than 40 percent over the past year.

The policeman said a stolen motorcycle can be sold for $132, while that amount of pork can be sold for more than $400.

The newspaper said the four robbers were caught.

Crimson Sky
07-13-2007, 09:39 AM
the wife and I are trying our best not to buy any Chinese products. they hold the mighty dollar above all human life.

calumc
07-13-2007, 10:17 AM
It's nice to see that you've got a few morals. But i think that the rest of us enjoy cheap stuff too much!
You're right though, china are undermining every major economy on the planet

AJ@PR
07-13-2007, 10:32 AM
china are undermining every major economy on the planet

By definition, China is a major economy.

My 0.02:::
We're all moving along towards full globalization.
There's no closing the borders now, nor in the future.

calumc
07-13-2007, 10:35 AM
apparently china isn't even the cheapest any more. My uncle works in publishing and he says that china is too expensive now, everything is going to smaller places like indonesia

Ironcat
07-13-2007, 10:43 AM
I also try to "buy American" whenever possible...

This sounds confusing and I know what I mean even if it doesn't make sense... The problem is not that China undercuts everyone, the problem is that noone else can (or is willing to) do it for the same price.

chaksq
07-13-2007, 10:20 PM
S*** they caught me.

Seriously though that is disgusting. And yeah, stuff from China is pretty much garbage. I can't afford the good stuff yet though, stupid min wage job. Oh well at least I usually end up buying quality stuff used rather than discount trash new.

xRyokenx
07-14-2007, 11:13 AM
I usually try to fork out the extra dollar or two for a better product. I refuse to shop at Walmart, the stuff there is about $0.82 cheaper, but also has only an 18% chance of lasting as long as something similar from somewhere else, that and I don't like taking longer to get through the checkout line than it took me to get what I needed, ie. thirty minutes to get through the express line with one guy in front of me.

That and even Chinese food made here in the US is "double the fun"... just ask progbuddy what that means if you're curious, lol.

DaveW
07-14-2007, 04:24 PM
I usually try to fork out the extra dollar or two for a better product. I refuse to shop at Walmart, the stuff there is about $0.82 cheaper, but also has only an 18% chance of lasting as long as something similar from somewhere else, that and I don't like taking longer to get through the checkout line than it took me to get what I needed, ie. thirty minutes to get through the express line with one guy in front of me.

82, 18, 30, 1...the new Lost numbers? :P

-Dave

nil8
07-19-2007, 03:11 PM
http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=120312

Follow up. Apparently it was faked.

AJ@PR
07-19-2007, 03:23 PM
http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=120312

Follow up. Apparently it was faked.

Ooops...

Somebody, is in very deep caca.

Zi you in the next life Zi.

Ironcat
07-19-2007, 03:29 PM
LOL I just saw that myself and I was logging in to tell you guys about it...

BEIJING, China (Reuters) -- Beijing police have detained a television reporter for allegedly fabricating an investigative story about steamed buns stuffed with cardboard at a time when China's food safety is under intense international scrutiny.

Crimson Sky
07-20-2007, 07:25 AM
And yeah, stuff from China is pretty much garbage.


This is not true at all really...They are basically only building and manufacturing the crap that the rest of the world set up for them...for instance:

The very, very best [and most abundant] optical glass comes from china--from medical equipment to telescopes and binoculars--why? because we moved all or best machinery and trained them to make this stuff for us using cheaper labor.

They arent the ones [B]designing the ugly plastic salad spinner with the smiling dolphin face--we are.

If you had to go through all the products in your home and remove the ones Made in China, you'd be left with only your American flag and stuff made from rubber. Why? Because if its one thing we have ****loads of in the USA its petroleum and old tires.

jdbnsn
07-20-2007, 07:45 AM
Exactly, and your American flag was made in Korea. If the natural laws of economic apply, we are likely to see a shift to very high quality production in the near future. Like Japan long ago who made everything poorly, then made everything, then made the best VCR's.

Crimson Sky
07-20-2007, 10:03 AM
Actually I buy only flags made in the US from American made fabrics ;) I must keep certain things sacred :p

jdbnsn
07-20-2007, 10:23 PM
I was just poking fun, I have no idea where flags are made.

Quakken
07-20-2007, 10:30 PM
Much like how everything is outsourced to india, once they start trying to charge higher prices for making things, in indias case once they start wanting more for tech support, the jobs will be outsourced back to the us in america, and then the cycle repeats for us. It happened to japan, i think it will happen to india, and it's happening in china.

Omega
07-21-2007, 03:36 AM
Actually, most cheap US flags are made offshores. But the government is trying to pass a law that makes it so all US flags are made in the US.

Crazy Buddhist
07-29-2007, 12:21 PM
I was just poking fun, I have no idea where flags are made.

flag manufacturing facilities?

slytherock
07-29-2007, 01:55 PM
flag manufacturing facilities?

ROLF :D