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Bucko
07-15-2007, 12:58 PM
I've had my 44 year old Hillman back on the road for about a month now and I've been enjoying some classic motoring for the first time in two and a half years.
It's also the first time in two and a half years I've had a car instead of just Murdercycles.

For those that don't know what the hell I'm talking about, here's my '63 Hillman Super Minx:

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8730/hillman002zf3.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2527/hillman003kk6.jpg


It's funny though, I feel less safe driving than I do riding. On a motorbike I feel like the road is a whole lot bigger and there is a lot more escape routes should it all go pear shaped while out and about.

It's winter here in Australia and I happen to have a car without a heater or windscreen demister, so a box of tissues comes in handy to see.
It's things like that which remind you of just how different old cars are.
I have one speed wipers, which the speed is exactly right to be either too fast or too slow for whatever rain I happen to be in.
The brakes aren't power assisted, so they are quite heavy. Passengers never feel safe due to no seat belts in the back. The starter solenoid has been playing up and the starter button (yes button, the key only turns on the ignition) doesn't always work, so sometimes I have to pop the bonnet and do a quick fiddle. Luckily I haven't needed the crank handle to start it yet (another thing you won't find in a modern car!).

It may sound like I'm complaining, but really I'm not. I love this car and I won't be getting rid of it ever. It's just such fun to drive and turn heads wherever it goes as it's so unusual.

This coming weekend I'm taking it on a nice 800 mile road trip to catch up with some friends and I'm quite looking forward to it. I have the CD player working again, so I'll be popping on some Doors and Led Zeppelin while I hit the back roads and head west.
The week after I will be doing another round trip of over 1100 miles as I head north to catch up with Cymae on the Gold Coast.

Should be great fun at a cruising speed of 60mph. It will do 80mph flat out, but you are really revving the engine, which I don't like doing on this old girl, so I'm happy to sit at 60mph and let everyone overtake me.

I'll make sure I take photos of my trips and where I end up.

Drew
07-15-2007, 01:24 PM
Ra ra ra!

Hillman FTW!

Eclecticos
07-15-2007, 01:35 PM
The sign with the red circle around it is that the Route Number or the Speed Limit?
What side of the road do ya'll drive on over there?

Nice car BTW! I'd drive it.

Bucko
07-15-2007, 01:43 PM
It's the speed limit. 50km/h. We drive on the left.

GT40_GearHead
07-15-2007, 05:28 PM
bloody great mate !

what do you have under the hood ? :D:D:D

The Black Pumpkin
07-15-2007, 11:09 PM
"Demister." :D

Funny Australian (and probably British) things. We just call them defroster's here. (Which actually doesn't make as much sense, as they are usually used to remove mist... :eek: )

Anyway, I like mine better, but I'd definitely own one of those if I could! I really love old cars... :p

danthegeek
07-15-2007, 11:58 PM
Thats an awesome car. There is no comparison to cruising around in a classic. Your a luck guy and take good care of her. And remember, if you get married, the car came before the wife and it isn't the first thing to leave as well. If you catch my drift!

Bucko
07-16-2007, 12:24 AM
bloody great mate !

what do you have under the hood ? :D:D:D

1725cc of raw power!

Here's a couple of pics of the engine and of the interior:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1476/cameradump031ae2.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5253/cameradump032zb0.jpg

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4723/cameradump034ya0.jpg

DaveW
07-16-2007, 05:45 PM
The engine's in there somewhere...how do I zoom... ;) :p

-Dave

Mitternacht
07-16-2007, 06:36 PM
If you're not happy with the size of your engine, there are things you can do about it. For instance, stroking your motor will increase its displacement and power. :D

Bucko
07-16-2007, 08:49 PM
I'm well aware of what can be done and I'm waaaaay ahead of you there. I already have a block I've had bored and decked, a crank that has had a minor offset grind to stroke it just a touch and all the new parts that go along with an engine rebuild other than the head. I haven't put it together yet as I am still deciding what head to use, either an Alloy head or a cast iron head. The engines came with both options from the factory.
The alloy head and iron head run different cams, not only in the profile, but in the layout. The alloy head has bigger intake and exhaust ports and they are set out as (I being intake and E being exhaust) I-E-I-E-E-I-E-I where as the Iron heads are I-E-E-I-I-E-E-I, so I need to decide which head so I now which cam to use.
Alloy may seem like the easy answer, but the problem finding a good alloy head that hasn't cracked or corroded. I have 5 sitting around and only one is good enough, but it will still need welding. However the iron heads don't have that problem and I already have an iron head that has been machined and is ready to go on an engine. It came with the parts with the other Hillman I bought.

Currently the Super Minx already has had an engine replacement over the original. It has a Hillman Hunter engine in it. It's almost identical to the Super Minx engine, both are 1725cc and share the same bore and stroke, it's just the Hunter engine runs 5 bearing mains, rather than 3 bearing mains on the older Super Minx engine.

I was all set to build this engine with an an iron head and drop it in the Super Minx until the Hunter GT project came along. It needs a new engine and had the alloy head from the factory.

Also, even with a more powerful engine, my top speed wouldn't improve. My acceleration would, but the top speed is really limited by the low gearing in these old things. So that means a new gearbox and diff. The joy of motoring...

Bucko
07-24-2007, 09:23 AM
Over the weekend I went for a road trip in the old Hillman. All up around 700 miles and it performed flawlessly!

I also spent a few hours polishing the car last week. It really came up nice. There was a lot of oxidization on the paint and had very little shine.
After the polish it really came up great!

Here's a couple of pics taken on the road trip showing the car and some of the great Australian landscape I went through.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/5413/cameradump035bh9.jpg

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1599/cameradump036qx4.jpg

GT40_GearHead
07-24-2007, 09:27 AM
dude that is so cool !!!

the second photo is great !

AJ@PR
07-24-2007, 09:40 AM
dude that is so cool !!!

the second photo is great !

Totally agree!

Super cool!
And the second pic is very interesting!
Have any more of the Aussy (spelling??) landscape with your car?

Nice!
So, how's some space for change? ((Compared to your bike))
And how's some 'slowness' for change?

:up: :up:

Bucko
07-24-2007, 10:13 AM
Having space to carry stuff comes in handy. I brought home another case on my trip and I go to get 3 more later this week. All freebies.

I don't mind the slowness. It still does the speed limit, but just takes longer to get there. It helps keep my license too...

While I don't have any other pics of the landscape with the car, I can offer one with a bike on a different trip.

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2367/0000272oe8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)