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Originally Posted by synapz
What came first the chicken or the egg? :eek:
I allways liked the saying "what came first the will or the way" Its more robust and truly has no asnwer. There is no way without the will to go down it. And will doesnt do anything without a way to use it 8)
As for the "choke" on the monitor cables. Its just a hunk of ferrite that blocks interferience. You can buy them and install them on any data cable. They became popular when vacume tubes went out of style. As silicon based electronics are much more acceptable to electro magnetic interferience.
Re: Graphics card problem
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Originally Posted by synapz
What came first the chicken or the egg? :eek:
The single-celled organism.
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Originally Posted by Omega
The single-celled organism.
Ahahaha, roger that!
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Originally Posted by Cana-Balsitic
I allways liked the saying "what came first the will or the way" Its more robust and truly has no asnwer. There is no way without the will to go down it. And will doesnt do anything without a way to use it 8)
that doesn't realy work cause there can be a will without a way :D
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The single-celled organism.
ahem... random, functioning organic molecules, simple enzymes if you will. they didnt serve any purpose, but they were still there.
or maybe... molecules... atoms... electrons, neutrons, and protons...
haha, organic chemistry is fun because you really start to understand how you dont need a cell to have working organic molecules, and how random it was to actually get to prokaryotes (the very first single cell organisms)... and then the higher levels of complexity.
the chicken or the egg question can be ultimately answered by defining the egg right. for instance: the egg is the set of conditions under which a chicken first develops, therefor the very first egg was the set of conditions under which the very first chicken arose... all in all you end up having the egg first. you cant argue this point easily because there was nothing before the very first chicken to willfully influence the environment... the environment where the chicken came from was a random occurence, and therefor has to have come first.
this of course is the "thoughtful" approach to the problem. any good scientist, especially biologists, know that the first chicken finds its origins with the begining of life, and life findds its origins with the birth of the planet, which also finds ITS origins with the beginning of the universe (supposedly the big bang). so if you want to put it simply... chicken or egg? neither.... an explosion came first.
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There is no way without the will to go down it. And will doesnt do anything without a way to use it
i shall also disprove this in one elegant swoop.
of course there are ways without wills. think of it this way, if you will.
you can take a long route around a city block to go meet a friend, or you can cut your travel time in half by going through a dark alley that is crawling with crack addicts. there are definitely two ways, but only one will in this case.... the will to take the long route... unless you too are a crack addict... but even then... there will only be the one will to go through the alley and score some crack along the way.
what a mouthful.
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Wow what a thread de-railure.
We go from a bricked graphics card to lame ass attempts at existential philosophy.
The answers:
The Chicken (qv. Darwin, Charles. The origin of species, Chapter IV: Natural Selection - 'Production of new forms')
The Will (QV. Incompatablism. See the writings of Hume, Hobbes, Kant, et al)
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well the original video card issue was solved, so i dont really think the thread has been derailed at all... its kind of meandered. still good though... its turned into something interesting, albeit different.
ill accept that wikipedia link you have there, but...
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qv. Darwin, Charles. The origin of species, Chapter IV: Natural Selection - 'Production of new forms'
i dont know about this one. if that is a book written by darwin... well its kind of old. if its a book based on the darwin way of thinking... its semi-valid. problem is that natural selection isnt as simple anymore.... especially thanks to a better understanding of genetics (RNA world in particular here) and mutations.
enough about the book though... i still think the chicken-egg dispute boils down to the creation of the known universe. after having thought about it for a while, the explosion didnt come first though... a singularity came first. hopefully we all know that a singularity is like a single point in space with an impossibly large amount of mass in it, like a black hole. its almost a point of infinite mass (oh boy, infinity again) but thats besides the point... haha, point.
what would a singularity be then? the chicken or the egg? is it a thing, or an environment? i dont know where to cast my vote for this one. maybe if we have an astrophysicist here... cause im not one... only one step down.
