Re: Review: Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Hardy Heron
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Originally Posted by
Dane Bramage
hey y'all... i don't pretend to know much about this kind of stuff, but this article was forwarded to me from a buddy over at microsoft...
http://www.dailytech.com/Huge+Hole+i...ticle11869.htm
Seems they found a big 'ole hole in some Linux distro packages. this isn't a diss... just an FYI for those of you that use Ubuntu as a server.
Thanks for the heads up bud :up:. I think my server might be on Debian (pretty damn sure, not quite though). Now I'm twice as worried as I was a week ago. This reminds me of a PM I sent Jon about MySQL injections loading malicious JS into pages, which currently has attacked 50,000 servers.
Holy $@%!
I'd still say Linux is the most secure OS you'll find, what with it's 60 or so known viruses :D. And, since the SQL injections were due to bad queries, it would be possible to screw with any server (MS or Linux). I really need to learn SQL...
Re: Review: Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Hardy Heron
Ubuntu is great but its ACPI support as it cant work with vendors is still pretty average. It cuts the battery life on my thinkpad by even more than a half compared to windows xp. I have tweaked it and got like an extra 15 mins. I still use it though but that will be another issue they will have to tackle to become more mainstream. Yes I know it works well with some laptops but I bought this laptop for the features and the warranty not what it worked with.
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Yeah I haven't been able to use some of the power management features (like dimming the backlight) on my Gateway running Fedora 8 so battery life goes downhill. I just dual boot with the Vista that was originally on there and only use it when I need to use the battery for a long time. I plan on replacing Fedora with Ubuntu on that machine, have to see if that works better, so far it has on my other machine I made the switch on.
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Will this Ubuntu version work with a USB speedtouch modem?
I've tried a few versions of Linux over the last year and I always have the same problem, I can't get on-line with a speedtouch USB modem, it's the usual driver issues and I get directed to a Linux site but even after trying to work my way through that I've had no success, I find it hard to understand how getting a very common USB modem is so difficult to get to work when wireless connections now seem relatively easy to get connected.:?
I hope someone can prove me wrong because I would really like to give Linux a good try but as long as I can't get on-line I lose interest quickly:rolleyes:
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I can't say yes or no to it working, but I can recommend you download it and give it a shot. I couldn't get my Linksys WUSB54G v4 working for ANYTHING with 6.06, 7.04, 7.10, Gentoo or Fedora (even the Ubuntu 8.04 RC1) but with the full version it works great. They've really stepped up the hardware compatibility.
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I definitely say try out the live disk at the least. The latest version of Ubuntu and it's counterparts (Xubuntu) have been working amazing for me.
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About to install but is scared =(.
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Ok now i need, help, unless taking 30 min on first boot is normal?
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lol. you running on a p2 there noopy? some take a while but that seems to take awhile
are you dual booting or just a clean install?
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Originally Posted by
si-skyline
lol. you running on a p2 there noopy? some take a while but that seems to take awhile
are you dual booting or just a clean install?
Well ive searched around and this is what happens but still no fix:
Ubuntu goes to boot screen and does the first progress bar. Then it loads like 15% on the second one and stops. The lights on the keyboard for the capslock and scroll lock blink. On the Ubuntu forums it said this is an indicator for a kernal panic. Anyone know what the cause is?
Oh and dual boot.
I'm going to go take pictures of whats happening.
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Yep big hole in all debian based Linux packages (including Ubuntu) - basically the number of encryption keys that can be generated was reduced from 2^128 to 2^16 or something of that order by a programming glitch which means they are easily crackable by brute force attacks. THERE ARE EVEN LISTS OF THE REDUCED KEYS AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD.
http://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys
On the main issue, sorry, but IMHO Linux is not ready for the desktop for the average user - and I am writing this on a laptop running Ubuntu.
YES Hardy heron gets your wireless working (as long as you have a wired connection to download the firmware) YES it installs the GPU drivers. Yes it works very nicely out of the box ..... until ....
... you try and do something that it doesn't do easily out of the box yet .... eg installing a TV card. It was a bitch to get my TV card working and I am still not there with the remote control. It does volume up and down, slow playback, speed playback, but I have to get up and change channel manually. I'm a computer expert compared to 99.9% of the population. Until installing my TV card and getting it working is not a total and utter frikkin bitch for me, sorry but the baby is not really walking properly YET.
I would propose that in a year to two years Linux will be a real desktop possibility for the average user. Moreover, wiithin 3 - 4 years Microsoft and Windows will be playing catch-up very fast indeed because the improvements over the last year to eighteen months are impressive. Linux will be the standard personal OS in 5 years time, not anything Micro$oft produce.
Crazy
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Originally Posted by
noopypoop
On the Ubuntu forums it said this is an indicator for a kernal panic. Anyone know what the cause is?
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Causes of kernel panics
General causes of kernel panics
Kernel panics are often caused by one or more of the following issues.
- Defective or incompatible RAM are the most frequent causes of kernel panics. Despite being a highly-reliable product, RAM can fail. Modern operating systems, like Mac OS X, are sensitive to RAM. Purchase additional RAM from either Apple or third parties who guarantee their RAM is compatible with Mac OS X, offer a liberal exchange policy, and provide a lifetime warranty should the RAM become defective or a later version of Mac OS X introduce incompatibilities.
- Incompatible, obsolete, or corrupted kernel extensions. If a third-party kernel extension or one of its dependencies is incompatible or obsolete with respect to the version of Mac OS X you are using, kernel panics may occur when the kernel executes such extensions. Likewise, if a kernel extension or one of its dependencies is corrupted, such as the result of hard disk corruption, kernel panics are likely to occur when the kernel attempts to load or execute such.
- Incompatible, obsolete, or corrupted drivers. Similar to kernel extensions, drivers for third-party hardware which are incompatible with the version of Mac OS X you are using, or which have become corrupted, will cause in kernel panics.
- Hard disk corruption, including bad sectors, directory corruption, and other hard-disk ills.
- Incorrect permissions on System-related files or folders.
- Insufficient RAM and available hard disk space.
- Improperly installed hardware or software.
- Defective hardware or software. Hardware failures, including a defective CPU, or programming errors can result in kernel panics.
- Incompatible hardware. While rare, this is generally the result of a third-party hardware vendor’s product failing to properly respond to the kernel or a kernel extension in an expected way.
I suspect you could just try reinstalling Ubuntu which might fix it (has for some folk). It sounds like its crunching up against a hardware/driver issue to me. You can also change boot instructions and there is a safe graphics mode for debugging. Instructions here.
Crazy
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Well here's the error I get
Code:
dmi_save_oem_strings_devices: out of memory
http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/12/18/361 and this is the fix. But how do I apply the fix?
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Originally Posted by
noopypoop
Before we go there:
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People with HP Desktops (including me) encounter couple of DMI errors
during boot - dmi_save_oem_strings_devices: out of memory and dmi_string: out of
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Is yours a HP Desktop? There are other reasons for getting this error.
Crazy
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Originally Posted by
Crazy Buddhist
Before we go there:
Is yours a HP Desktop? There are other reasons for getting this error.
Crazy
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Yea ='(
HP FTL
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Originally Posted by
simon275
Thanks very much for all the info when I finish my present case build/mod I will give Ubuntu a go again, thanks again. :)
Re: Review: Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Hardy Heron
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Originally Posted by
Crazy Buddhist
Yep big hole in all debian based Linux packages (including Ubuntu) - basically the number of encryption keys that can be generated was reduced from 2^128 to 2^16 or something of that order by a programming glitch which means they are easily crackable by brute force attacks. THERE ARE EVEN LISTS OF THE REDUCED KEYS AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD.
This issue has been dealt with, on one of the recent updates after all the updates install a dialog box comes up alerting the user of the issue and then allows the user to generate a new encryption key after the issue has been resolved. Personally I recall flaws this great coming from M$ as well.
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Originally Posted by
chaksq
Personally I recall flaws this great coming from M$ as well.
Indeed ... Windows Meta File anyone?
... Some old keys generated on debian run servers are still crackable I understand but could be wrong though yes I understand the hole has been patched.
CB
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So can anyone tell me how to apply that fix so I can boot into ubuntu?
Re: Review: Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Hardy Heron
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Originally Posted by
noopypoop
So can anyone tell me how to apply that fix so I can boot into ubuntu?
From what I can tell you have to make changes to some kernel then compile it? I don't know. Crazy b?
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Not a clue, sorry, and no energy to research it. Noop why don't you join that forum and ask a question about how to install the patch.
CB
