Dude this is an amazing project! Read through the whole worklog yesterday and just didn't know how best to applaud your work :D You are a true craftsman and I'll be wathing this right till the end ;) +rep
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Dude this is an amazing project! Read through the whole worklog yesterday and just didn't know how best to applaud your work :D You are a true craftsman and I'll be wathing this right till the end ;) +rep
Thansk mate !Quote:
Originally Posted by Munty
If you read it from beginning to end you can see there are a lot of twists and turns in the planning and execution. I mean: try one thing, doesnt look ok or doesnt fit, scrap it, think of something else and start again. All good fun !
wow.. just... awesome.
Isn't that what it's all about? Especially being scratch built there will be issues that turn up and need to be dealt with. But you are making amazing progress. I'm not much of a Trekkie but this is going to be wonderful, awesome, epic. I'll definitely be following this build. :up: +repQuote:
Originally Posted by ASPHIAX
Huge rep. Everyone do the same now!
Once primed and painted, I doubt if the light will still bleed through.:up:
Well even though the glow lines look very cool, they were not intended! I suspected the verticals would become bleeders but i hadnt anticipated the horizontal ones. (i actually played with the idea to do all the vertical ones with mesh but that would destroy the structural stiffness of the canope. The previous foto's didnt show the biggest bleeder!Quote:
Originally Posted by mDust
Starship with sunroof anyone?
The Epoxy/glass layer dries transparantly. This is made of 6 layers of 160 grams glass with a 2 cm thick layer Epoxy. Virtually indestructable.
To talk about structural stiffnes of the model here are some more details.
The Canope is made of about 1 cm layer of XPS foam (they make spoilers for race cars out of this stuff) , thick filling layer (ok, not as thick everywhere, see the bleeding light effect) and several layers of 160 grams glassfiber with epoxy on the inside and outside.
I think together these 2 cases with the K62 having a 280 rad in the hood are about 10-12 kg!
It's an impressively sturdy build you have there and no doubt :D Have you thought about maybe trying to mask the bleeds with thick tape or similar on the inside? I'm not sure how much will be visible but if you won't be able to see any of the areas in question it might be an easy fix to the solution if filler/paint isn't quite enough...
Here is the design for the fan/led controller I want to use for the EURISKO.
It will be integrated into a LCARS display in the standard that will support the model.
I will use a NZXT Sentry LXE with a remote touchscreen display like this one :
Sentry LXE
The Idea is to take a thick piece of dark plexi and fit the buttons with transparant clear plexi. Different colour leds will light the buttons randomly with certain ones lit continuous making the screen come alive.
The NZXT LXE touchscreen fancontroller will be integrated into the panel after stripping the casing of it. The blueish voyager button left corner will be fitted with a on/off switch for the pc.
Really looking forward to this job, it might just get precedence above other work!
The colours in the design might change depending on the colour leds I will receive, but the layout is almost final!
Regards from Austria!
ASPHIAX
Good idea! If the filler/paint doesnt do the job, this will be an very good backup plan! Thanks !Quote:
Originally Posted by Munty
I would call this case mod epic, but that term is insufficient to describe it. Suffice it to say that I'm really liking what I'm seeing. +rep and +sub.
P.S. I'm loving your idea of turning the Sentry LXE remote into a TNG datapad. All I can say is, "Engage!"
Just visited your site, OH ... MY ... GOD !!! Words just doesnt describe it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatSatan
I will spend weeks going through your worklogs as the work you are displaying is completely out of this world!
Thansk for the +rep! Coming from you it means a lot!
(not that +rep from anyone else doesnt mean a thing, dont get me wrong!!!)
The evolution of your builds is very visible (if the list of mods on your site chronological from shattered to diablo) from cases to non-conventionals.
Me , I just like dreaming up stuff and then building it. (2 appartements and a 3 story house and now computers, lol!)
Love your Commodore P.E.T build. Out of the box, clean, iconic, Briljant!
Thanks for your reply man !
ASPHIAX
Me? I've got a bunch of builds, and in dire need of parts and funding.
You've inspired me.
+r.
Thank you! I am hoping to get some work done today on the pylons and warp nacelles. Snowboarding just doesnt beat modding! Lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by DynamoNED
You have definately got a bunch of builds! Great work there!Quote:
Originally Posted by AmEv
Hope my work will continue to offer some idea's!
Thanks!
Here is a short update:
It is good to take a break from the build every once and again. Left the build for a good week to come back and find several issues with the design that I didn't see before. So I spend the most part of the day with the dremel taking of milimeter by milimeter certain elements of the tail to make the "flow" of the design better. There was a 3 mm thick layer of dust in the room when I finished but its done now and I am happy with it!
Last time when I hooked up the tubing to the warp nacelle it looked like this:
The white coil only just prevented the tube from folding too much so no coolant would be able to flow through. Obviously not a good solution. Take this restriction times 4 (2 per nacelles) and the single pump would definately not be enough umpff to make the ship fly any harder then warp 1,1. Back to the drawing board it is. What would make a perfect 180 degree turn and do that within 4 cm ?
Contacted Bitspower to ask for the heart to heart measurements of their snake fitting. Could not find the deatils anywhere.
Bitspower descided after seeing the buildlogs to send me a box with all different types of fittings, connectors, converters and what not to help me out. How extremely cool of them ! Looks like there are a lot of old trekkies around !
Tehy are all from the Black Sparcle Series ...
So now with the new fittings it looks like this :
PS. the yellow tape is to ensure the plexi doesnt get scratched
Looks a whole lot better al ready. No more restriction in the tubing which also doesnt want to press outwards by the strong curvature in the old solution.
This week will start the foam work encapsulating the nacelles and place the led array.
No small job .. (but so much fun!!!)
Laterz
ASPHIAX
Well I Guess its official now !!!
Mod - Of - The - Month FEB 2011 Winner : USS EURISKO Intrepid Mark II Class :banana:
It was very close but with 6 votes the EURISKO came out victorious and looking at the quality of the competition it is most humbling ...
I would like to thank everyone who voted :up: Gave mental support :up: and helped with tips, tricks and suggestions :up:!!!
Couldn't have done it without you !!!
Grt
ASPHIAX
PS: And now back to modding !!! :lick:
Congrats!! Guess now your wife should know it's worth the mess. ;)
Just a dinner and a show to make it complete and I will be set for at least a couple of builds, LOL !!!
Thansk man !
Here is another update :
The Deflector Tunnel!
So, What do we have to do here. Fit the MDF PSU casing into the tunnel, fit the HDD drive cage with 2 HDD's and a SSD, fit the Laing DDC pump and add a 92mm fan for the HDD cooling.
Here is an upside down picture for explanation. After a tip from The Boiler I incorporated a structural element that will make attaching the case to the standard far more easy.
The MDF PSU casing has been raised for a couple of cm's making it stick out under the case. This will make it fit into a slot in the to be build standard and when everything is neatly airbrushed the model will seem to float 1,5 cm's above the standard (well thats the idea at least, LOL)
A little jump forwards, I was so busy I forgot to take pictures! I cut the raised casing out of the foam and sunk the HDD cage into it. Also added some structural elements to make it more stiff.
The foam "behind" the HDD cage has been removed to allow a 92mm fan to be placed pushing the air out of the tail section. So cool air is coming in through the raised PSU casing and pushed out through the tail-fan
Enough room for all the cables, esspecially when they have all been made to perfect length ;-)
I only have to move the pwr connector and switch to the back. A bit sorry to have to void the 5 year warranty on a PSU that has been in my posession for less than a day. Oh well, all part of the game right !?!
Put everything into the epoxy/glassfiber and put some additional layers where the tubing willenter the tail and where the fan will be cut out.
Here for the tubing :
Gonna drop by the hobbyshop tomorrow for some hinges to make the pylons and warp nacelles move up and down.
Laters
ASPHIAX
Looking really good, congrats on the win! I didn't realise there was any voting taking place or you would've got 7 for what it's worth :p Looking forward to the next update.
Here is another update !
Had a brainfart while snowboarding after seeing a piece of snow coming through a piece of cloth at the pub.
This is what is has to become:
Here is the idea:
Looks soemthing like this
CRAP !! You can still see the transparant frosted plexi. oh wait thats because light is getting into it from the sieds. DOH !!!
Hmm still a lot of light but it is not as visible now. the LCARS panel needs to be light tight from the sides and between the LEDS"s
And LED on: (my camera shows too much light. it actually is a easy going blue
Still soem licht polution but the principle works!!! now to do soem experimenting with the intesity of the leds
'Here is an overview of the layers of plexi
Laterz
ASPHIAX
hahaha, No worries mate! knowing you would have voted is enough!Quote:
Originally Posted by Munty
There's another update coming really soon
Soon enough?
Another Update ! Finally had some time to translate!
HMMM Let poke some holes now the epoxy is dry
It finally became a 80mm fan. Just wouldnt get the 92mm in without it looking strange.
The Tail fan
I can still add the os SSD between the HDD's and they will still have enough cooling
Started on the Pylons with the warp nacelles. Added a couple of small hinges.
This should be made possible to do electrically (by the servo's running of an arduino) by pushing a button on the commbadge !
Warp speed !
Holes..
More holes ...
Jeffries tube from the series
The next pictures were made with green tubing for testing purposes. They will be replaced with feser white UV tubing as the whole interior will be airbrushed black and the led fan will be bue.
Ingress from the warp nacelles and egress towards the mobo and pump
Quick fitting session with all the deflector tunnel hardware fitted
Almost a shame to have to enclose this with foam
Well that was it for today
Laterz
ASPHIAX
It's really coming togehter now.
I must say, HUGE!!!
Hahaha, yes its definately not a small case :)
But maybe its tiny compared to one of the next projects i am working on .......
:think:
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Here are a quick couple of pics made tonight!
LATERZ
ASPHIAX
Looking better with every update dude! I wonder if you can provide me with a Trekkie insight into something seeing as it's a prominent part of your build. Why do the warp nacelles move in some ships before they go to warp? What's the story behind that meant to be as not all vessels even have that configuration do they... While you're at it, exactly what are the nacelles? I've seen the energy cores onboard in many episodes of varying series but I don't have the slightest clue how it's meant to be turned into propulsion!
I hope you do, consider it a challenge as I'm intrigued lol
If memory serves - it was something to do with the enhanced nature of the Warp drive fitted to the Intrepid class ships - they were the fastest ships in Starfleet by a substantial amount but I admit, I'm not the trekkie I used to be lol.
The only other ships I remember having moving nacelles were the Defiant Class but there may well be more...
More seriously though, it was probably because it looked cool!!! heh
OR there's this... lol
Did the defiant come into use in DS9 before or after Voyager started being shown - I could have sworn the nacelles on the Defiant moved....Quote:
Memory Alpha:
The variable-geometry pylon is a feature first introduced to Federation starships around 2370.
The warp nacelles have the ability to be raised into position for warp speeds, then lowered into a more streamlined position when at slower-than-light speeds. The Intrepid-class starships are equipped with this feature, an example of which is the USS Voyager. (VOY: "Caretaker")
The pylons were raised anytime a warp field was generated, even if the ship was not traveling at warp speeds. (VOY: "Learning Curve")
No other class of starship to date incorporates this design.
EDIT: The pedant in me took control - just been you-tubing the defiant and it doesn't have moving nacelles - at least I don't think so....
On another note, the shape of the Defiant would probably make it a much easier casemod lol
Oh you didnt just ask me that ! Sweet ! Here goes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Munty
The warp core is actually called the gravimetrical field displacement manifold and is used to create a bubble around the ship that would not react with normal space time hence bypassing the time-dilation issue with faster then (or close to) light travel. The Warp nacelles are the variable geometry warp coils or generators, so the official title for the warp nacelles is (and here goes) :
Variable geometry - gravimetrical field displacement - coil or generators.
To get a clear picture of what they do, take this analogy. ever seen those high divers at the olympics? triple backflips with double screws when they jump of a 10 meter high ledge? Gotta give them respect, I made a bad dive (2 meters) once and landed flat on the water. Man that hurt! Because the water is hard like concrete when I fell through because of the water tension. In the olympics you can see multiple little fountains splattering on the water just a couple of feet from where the divers actually hit the water. Why is that I always wondered until I found the answer. The breaking of the water surface tension by the water fountains made the smack the diver makes on the water MUCH less hard and actually could make the difference between life or death if the dive went bad.
So the Warp field does the same it actually softens up the space time continuum around it exposing subspace (like the fountains break the water tension for the diver and opens up the path to the deeper water) making the warp bubble with the vessel flow through space-time noticing almost no "friction". Untill you come upto warp 9.9999 with warp 10 being the end of the warp scale. (the borg had transwarp tech which makes a wormholes through subspace instead of using a lubricating warp bubble to flow through it)
I also have not found any other ship that uses the movable warp nacelle configuration. Maybe the prometheus class but i have not seen that in action, only on pictures.
To be homest i could think of the warp bubble being better aligned with the ship at warp speed. The warp nacelles are actually located under the saucer at impulse and in the middle of the ship when raised. But I have to agree it probably was the designers trying to find a way to differentiate from all other starfleet vessels and ... IT JUST LOOKS JUMMY !
Hope this satisfies your curiosity and the challenge is met ?
Thansk for making me think and do research (I love doing research)
Best
ASPHIAX
One final note : Miguel Alcubierre submitted a paper on real life warp drive !
It is shown how, within the framework of general relativity and without the introduction of wormholes, it is possible to modify a spacetime in a way that allows a spaceship to travel with an arbitrarily large speed. By a purely local expansion of spacetime behind the spaceship and an opposite contraction in front of it, motion faster than the speed of light as seen by observers outside the disturbed region is possible. The resulting distortion is reminiscent of the ``warp drive'' of science fiction. However, just as it happens with wormholes, exotic matter will be needed in order to generate a distortion of spacetime like the one discussed here.
I solved the problem with the huge "sunroof" bleeder and those on the sides.
I will use a reflective insulation tape (actually layed the plastic underfloor in my living room with this) It weighs nothing compared to the thick layer of filler, it seals all the bleeders, it reflects the warmth coming from the hardware inside the case preventing the foam to become an insolator and also reflects the light from the leds so the inside is better lit.
Creds to Munty for the exellent tip! Thansk bro!
Just wanted to share this pic before sealing all the bleeders.
EVIL SMILIE !!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASPHIAX
ok, if that's the case, then why, in the final episode of the next gen, was the future enterprise able to run at warp 13 and then turn around and run back at "maximum warp"?
oh yeah, this build is turning more magnificent than i originally thought it would.
I Knew I had to put that in, but descided not to mention it.Quote:
Originally Posted by xr4man
There is also a TNG episode that features a very old picard that has to go to a specific place in the neutral zone in 3 different time periods. The timeperiod with the 80 something year old picard also had beverly crushers ship fly at warp 13.
In the VOY episode threshold the warp barrier is set at 10 , with 10 being infinite velocity. At infinite velocity you would be at every point in the universe at the same time. Paris and Janeway actually have children in this episode. Fantastic!
Dont know if they just changed the scales or this is one of the few inconsistencies between the series. At least I always believed they tried very hard to keep all the details in line.
Thanks !
But not such a challenge !Quote:
Originally Posted by slaveofconvention
thansk man !
Ah this I CAN help with - pretty sure it was explained in one of the books altho I can't recall which one.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASPHIAX
Basically as they tweaked more and more speed out of the engines, it got to the point where they were going at 9.99999 or 9.999999 (the latter being double the actual speed of the former) which was pretty much impossible to keep track of so the scale WAS recalculated on a 1-20 scale where 1 was the SOL and 20 was infinite speed.
Cmon man - I LOVE trek - always have, but the inconsistencies between the series were legion lol - then again, it's fiction so that's absolutely ok with me :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ASPHIAX
Man... R2 has some competition....
Hey Asphiax,
First, let me just say I love what you've done here. And I am in no way, shape, or form qualified to make suggestions. But the panel you are going to use for monitoring, has a typo. It has the ship class spelled Entrepid, when it should be Intrepid. I know it's a silly observation, but there are trek heads out there that will fry you if you leave the typo in there.
Good answer man! I'm enlightened :) The diving analagy is a good one, I will now forever think of Trekkie propulsion as more of a 'sucked into low pressure spacetime' thing than a 'pushed really fast through space'
BUT!!! I believe Voyager had moving nacelles too... They didn't go far but I'm sure they moved a little didn't they? Come on, I'm no trekkie but I'd still like a point in the quiz :D
UBER Trekkie Knowledge ! Respect! Thanks for clearing it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by slaveofconvention
Thansk, the R2's out there are of extraordinary quality. Hope I can get to the same level!Quote:
Originally Posted by diluzio91
OH ****! I was about to send the final design to the CNC guy. Thanks ever so much!Quote:
Originally Posted by Okele
Yes the Voyager vessel is next to the EURISKO (doesnt actually exist in the star trek realm, something I came up with) vessel the only one that have moving nacelles as far as I know. The EURISKO is actually based on the Voyager with Ablative armour (from the last episode where they kick some Borg butt) I should have been more clear, sorry!Quote:
Originally Posted by Munty
