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offtopic: well, danger is away.. there was a stupid incident with one of the universtie's servers.. blah.. they had a list of those who entered by devious means (admin hack) and stupidly i was on that list too.. dang, i heard there was a nice error message if u entered the right commands... then all hell got loose, they cut our internet connection, they threatened all of us with expulsion from the dorm.. all because some drunken loser deleted lots of stuff, another one uploaded crap on the server etc.. it all got cleared up when one of them admitted.. i did nothing, so nothing will happen.. :D
getting back to the topic.. i got dough now, i got some ideas... and i did etch a pretty good window for the psu.. i really like how the clear coat looks and it really makes the psu case shine.. i'll try some more designs before doing anything permanent... got some pics i'll post as soon as i'll download them..
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:p
okay... back in the race :) i've bought another 512ddr400. now i have 1gig dual channel :D
you guys rock my socks
i'm back... went home for the holidays.. had some free time.. visited my dad's workplace and got some nice things done.. not final.. kinda beta version work, but still, i like fabricating and designing :)
the first part of a hdd rack.. fits in 3 bays and houses 4 hdds...
part 2..
test fit 1..
test fit 2..
and i hacked this lil piece of steel..
..marked the pieces to cut..
basicaly, i needed the psu mount and..
and this lil part..
and this is a nice sample of aluminum(3mm thick) i wanna use for a custom case..
and this "small" machine is gonna make the fine cuts..
this is the airflow and structural schematic of what i was thinking.. it's an inverted mobo design.. with lots of 120mm fans :)
the front panel main piece..
a piece to fit a 120 mm fan.. three of this are needed...
a nice utility panel.. if i ever make this, it's gonna look sick.. i think.. in a good way.. i'll make some renderings of this to study the effect i'm after..
a derived psu mount i hope i'll use for external insertion of the psu.. so it would be easier to swap units..
the back panel.. v1..
i'm not sure of this part.. this is probably the hardest things:) the gray thing is supposed to be a heatpipe.. does any one know from where i can buy some???
..have to go to school.. and pick up a new video board.. cheap thing.. i'll use for a few weeks.. then sell it and buy a better one.. that's the plan at least..
..got home.. did some testing.. i have mixed feelings.. i mean i knew what i was buying.. i had lil cash to spare this month and i did get a good board (i got 700 points in 3dmark05 with the 5200 and 2200 with this one: gecube 9550 gu2 with 256ddr2... looks good, but compared to what erformance horses i've seen around.. :( )
..nice cooler.. really quiet and keeps the board cool
..the markings say 9550 but windows sees it like a 9600xt.. ?!?!... what up with that?
Anybody knows the limit of this boards regarding oc? And what cooler (air,heatpipe, not water.. not worth it) should i buy?
..got bored today after school.. the weather was nice, wind was blowing.. so i bought a small heatsink.. very cheap.. the speeze memory radiator (as cheap as they come..) :)
..raw material 4 me..
..take dremel with a reinforced disc..
..cut some small bga sinks... these are temporary, for the backside of the video board's memory..
..i have my doubts about the adhesive.. but for now it's ok..
..took the other piece and cut it lenghtwise..
..small groove taking shape.. aluminum is hard to cut..
..half way thru..
..and half cut :) 1 piece went on the voltage regulators, althoug they are not getting warm.. but i do have a 50% overclock and you never know..
..one piece is still laying on the table.. cant find anything to stick to.. at least now, casue i'm a bit sleepy.. i have an exam tomorrow.. again.. they just seem to come and come.. darn..
..good night..
well...this was A GOOD NIGHT... I GOT A PHONE NUMBER... OF A GIRL.. i'm so happy.. i'll probably delete this part of the post later.. right now i'm a bit wasted.. some updates... from stock 446/450 for the video card i got to a maximum of 486/688 very stable to 500/720 with rwre artifacts. again: this is a 9550 gu2... hope i'll buy a cooler to raise the freq, buy next month i'll probably spend about 100$ on raw speakers...
great day..not.. my dvdrw got busted (unknown cause), my vdo board makes funny things in 3d.. and i had to lose half a gig of ram to make my pc work.. stable.. dang..
Strange thing about the RAM. My old PC had 512, I got a new one with 1G but it wasn't stable at all. I ran some memory test utils and they all failed the second stick. I swapped them over and it still failed on the second.Quote:
Originally Posted by dgrmkr
These were two identical sticks.
I then took the 512 from my previous PC and put it alongside one of these 512s. It works perfectly, as does the other 512 in the previous unit.
So, the two identical 512 sticks just didn't work well together... :?
Better preserve it for posterity then... :pQuote:
well...this was A GOOD NIGHT... I GOT A PHONE NUMBER... OF A GIRL.. i'm so happy.. i'll probably delete this part of the post later.. right now i'm a bit wasted..
Did you call her yet?
i did solve the ram problem.. i had to remove the HS from one ram mudule and plug it in another slot.. it just wouldnt run stable in dual channel.. no surprise becasue one mudule is cl2.5 and the other cl3.. BUT! they did run as stable as hell 'till now.. and the error is always generated by a "video device driver".. that may be true.. BUT! i tested my other board.. no error.. my newer board on antoher pc.. no error... what the? then it must from my current configuration as a whole...? heck with it.. got no money left, several exams aproaching.. one tomorrow.. i'll just leave things as they are..
oh, the dvd burner appears dead :( why??? that's gonna set me back next month.. i had plans dam it.. i wanted to buy 4 ten inch speakers (raw drivers) and make me a new set of biamped towers.. this lil skill of mine will probably "sponsor" some future mods that go beyond buying crappy 75$ video boards or noname ram... for an overclocked K7..
:(( if anybody knows how i can fix/ troubleshoot a "dead" dvd.. pls help.. i can just say it draws current, the eject button works.. i hear no noise when i insert a cd (most of the time, that is.. it did spin the discs a few times, but erratically.. i can see no rule to it's behaviour).. the led doesnt blink while accesing the disc and now windows or the bios cant see the unit when installed.. no shock occurred to it.. mystery..
and about the last part, xmastree: i'm not sure when to call.. i think there is a rule to how much i have to wait.. not sure.. :) ;) but i am a bit troubled by 2 examinations coming this week.. both are programming related, but i do get butterflies if i think of the implications.. booze helps with forgetting them ;) i will call her though :D
well.. it seem smy psu is dying.. can't wait for next month.. i've set my eyes on an antec smart 2.0 500w psu.. simple, plain, enough volts for me.. and on the cheap side.. anybody can throw an opinion on this.. i'm still searching.. but this psu is well in my budget :)
i'm bored copying exercises for my physic lab, so i'm doing some maual work: sanding the bondo smooth.. on my long forgotten front panel.. pics will come soon.. cause i love pics :)
i had a nice quiet weekend.. exams start in a fortnight.. well, i've done some sketches and measures.. mostly by eye.. did this things fast.. and made a scene in 3dsmax.. no time to render it, just made some shots of the viewport.. this is how i would like my project to look (for now, still evolving..):
..things have been placed.. all are a tight fit.. almost all...
...i'm thinking 2 120mm fans for intake, 4 80mm with blue leds as outs in the video zone...
...2 more 80 mm fans as blowholes.. already done..
..a heat-pipe cooler for the GPU.. thinking vm-101 as i can't find some heatpipes to buy.. it's cheap.. so i might mod it one day.. also, i might redo the panel (seen some welding involved in a popular mod these days..) and cut some nice designs in the side-"outake"..
..i'm thinking that the performance of this small HS will be improved if i get lots of air travelling tru ;)
..browsing tru the worklogs... well, i got inspired.. Defyant is such a great craftsman, i thought of giving the blowholes a try (you're my mentor :) rock on!).. if i can do them.. bought some pipe already, but i'm waiting and analyzing.. don't have the guts 2 do it fast though...
..all this bondo made the panel very heavy.. so some holes are due..
..i'm thinking of doing some burried knobs as a fan controller.. faceplate will evolve.. it's nice to do this before i screw anything up :)
.. problems: dvd writer doesn't fit in the sketches.. weird.. in real life, it does.. with slack.. well, probably the late hour of the night affects me.. can't seem to find a nice idea for a H plate to mount the sonic tower so that the flow is from front2back, not bottom2top.. (this one easy.. just need some time to brew..)
got classes in the morning, so.. bye
It looks like you either put in too much harder, or waited too long in a few spots on the bondo. I did the same thing a couple of times. :) Once you sand it down, it shouldn't be to heavy. You lost me on the bottom hole though :) It looks too big for the fan? All in all, nice design, and I like the simple lines.
Can't wait to see what you do with the GPU. Cool ....
10ks MDCS... i'm trying to keep it as simple and elegant as possible.. don't know how it will turn though. I'm very new at working with plastics on this level..
Both holes are identical. 110mm big, just enough for the blades to show.. when you say the bottm one, u mean the front bottom one? cause thats 120mm fan capable.. and i used it.. if you are saying something that derives from the real pic.. it's true.. the tube for the 120 fan will be smaller in width than the hole, but i'll fill the gaps.. did i get it right?
any help is good.. your case's blow hole is inspiring.. any hints are welcome :)
yesterday i marked the bottom circle, and am considering how to cut it.. this is more complex than the uper part, as the buttons of the case were once there.. nu "biggi'.. i'll just sand them smooth.. also, i'm thinking how to make the hdd cage cooler, because the foldable tabs of the economic-compromise-case i own today are in the way, weakening the structure of the assembly and maybe inducing vibrations.. big no-no... well..today, now, i just finished my english homework.. nice.. going to sleep.. i think.. or maybe back to 3dsmax? hmm.. bye
i've ordered an antec slk3000b today.. hopes it arrives soon.. i've been looking for a bigger case for a while to house my system (seeing that i can't go home with what i have now :P 'cause my parents would kill me) until i get tools to fab the aluminum panels..
anyways, i think i'll keep my case ideas for a new system (hope i'll make some bucks this summer.. i already earned a few, but those went into another project.. pc-related only cause of the sound card :D.. a big bad speaker.. pics only on request, cause this is a pc-forum).
Project n0name still holds.. i have no theme, just an urge to experiment :) so as soon as i get the new case i'll cut it :D
look over here
heat pipe maker online...
Maz, 100x thanks dude.. you are a life saver.. the link is wayyyy too cool... now i have to find out if they can send some stuff to an amateur modder like me :) and all the way round the world :)
well.. waiting gaem is on.. the case has not arrived.. next week they tell me.. in the mean time.. price went up a few bucks, enough to annoy me.. hmm.. suspicious.. why would they tell me "why yes, we got it right here, but it's in another shop.. tomorrow morning we'll surelly have it right here" and then they ell me "something must have gotten wrong.. we ordered it.. it's just not anywhere.. come back next week".. this is why i hate economics and like machines..
i think i'm gonna buy a dvdrw sooner.. actually in the morning.. i'm eyeing either the pioneer dvr-111d or the asus DRW-1608P2SB... but i have the 1608p right next to me.. broken.. without any reason :? so should i go with the pioneer? too small of a price difference to mater.. just a vote in favour of either one.. so pls help..
hi all... i now have an asus drw-1608P3S :) antec case still not here... :( ah, flunked another exam.. maths again.. but it's not over yet.. i have an examination later today on the written paper i produced earlier.. yey.. :| well, i see an opurtunity here: to pressure the guys from the store, who were supposed to get my case last week :P
excellent.. i just got a ticket for disturbing the quiet.. worth a lot here.. a bit more than 100$... great.. that's gonna set me back..
but in the morning i'm picking up the case.. i hope...
EDIT:
I'm bored, so i started up 3ds and a had a go at the antec dimensions..
i'm thinking of redirecting the airflow, and isolating the separate zones of my pc: psu, cpu, and vdo+hdd+mobo... i've got just one theoretical problem till now and that's a big one.. i need a special pot, but a triple variation.. i can find stereo ones, mono ones.. but not triples... dang.. i'm trying to use one control knob for several purposes... and do a more linear control of the fan speed... gonna be tricy.. i'm using Orcad to simulate circuits.. really nice, tells me exactly what resistors i need and of what power.. to be on the safe side.. plus currents, voltages.. nice tool to simulate a PSU also :)
well, more in the morning..
I love the idea for the cpu cooling. As for disturbing the peace, LMAO. Happened to me once, but that was with a little (oxygen + 42oz QT cup + flame) experiment of mine. :P
Still bored... so i made a quick rendering of the cpu ducts... just a quick one.. cause i'm sleepy now.. so, good night :)
Yupeee... got the case.. installed everything.. nice.. except for one thing.. temps.. they kinda went up :( but i'm not running both 120mm fans, so i guess it's understandable.. now i get 44 degrees for cpu, 32 system and 31 hdd.. room temperature is colse to 30 too.. but i'll see if this is trully the cause..
Now, time for pics.. oh, i noticed that there aren't many reviews of the Antec SLK-3000B around, so.. i'll give this a shot :)
no pic for the box it came in, cause it's plain corrugated brown thich.. well, u know.. nothing special..
Here is what u find inside.. antec 3 year warranty, a mechanical drawing, one case wrapped in plastic and with 2 styrofoam pieces holding it.. paint finish of the case was unharmed after a 3 day ride, so this packaging is effcient.
Next, some things that are worth a pic:
loooots of screws, i counted and there are a few more than a full install requires.. especially the huge headed screws are in a large amount.. they are used to install hard drives, and you can install 5-7 of these, if u don't use a floppy.. (i don't) or some other devices that need lots of space behind the front panel's 3,5" openings..
..these are some replacements if u do rip the metal behind the 5,25" openings and for some reason u want them back.. hmm... i see no use for these, but maybe someone can think of one..
the front.. i think it's nice... not perfect for my needs, but nice.. i have a really noisy front fan and the openings work on silencing it a bit.. and there is good airflow too.. i can feel it
front door opened... i don't like this much, as the door is sturdier than other ones i've seen, but i really don't want to break it.. so i'm thinking of doing something to it..
side panel is very nice.. the hole are good for a normal system, but don't suite me that well.. the cpu duct hole i mean.. but for normal heatsinks(non-tower) or a bit more airflow when watercooling, they are nice.. the vdo/pci holes are working fine too, even though my plan rgarding them is far from being completed..
i love the latcehs.. they have such a nice feel.. and the door is pseudo-hinged.. nice.. there could even be a way to make it a more permanent hinge.. all in all, i like these the most.. just personal, i guess..
a big plus is for the rear-fan (antec tri-cool, max 77cfm specified).. very quiet compared to my other fans.. even on high.. on low, can't even hear it from 30cm.. also, the back panel is made in auch a way that watercooling is very possible.. lots of space in this case..
the grills are pretty good too.. not like wire-grills, but close.. i can't phisically sense any air being reflected.. as it happened with the older case, before cutting began..
in the front there is another spot for a 120mm fan, but this one is with a plasticbracket.. so if u want to install something else, be creative first and have a dremel.. as i can see, only 25mm thick fans can be installed.. also, the fan does provdide decent cooling to the hdd..
speaking of which.. this is the removable hard drive cage.. 1 latch, 1 thumb-screw.. and rubber grommets.. that work! using antec's big-headed screws ant the grommets does make for less vibration.. nice..
what me (and my room mates) like is the floppy-cage.. it has a very nice latch-mechanism, that works flawlessly.. and a nice feel when put in position.. i had a bit of trouble putting the hdd cage back in, but playing with this one was a .. snap!
u can see the spring mechanism used.. ingenoius and quite robust..
hdd cage removed.. 5 disks can go here, but cooling will be sacrificed.. i say 3 hdds max 4 good temps...
the thing for the 120mm fan in the front.. it's easy to install a fan here, but i am afraid this could brake... plus, and it might be just me, but a fan put here is noisier than a fan in another place.. maybe the plastic transfers and amplifies vibrations...
front nudity ;) pretty well thought out, but what i don't like is the non-centered 120 fan.. this will prove more difficult to mod..
these things will be ripped out in a few secs.. they allow airflow, but c'mon..o, i must mention that the case is not sharp at all.. very carefully made..
front and rear grills... both could end up cut away for more flow, but i don't know...
front ports.. just 2x usb here.. BUT what i like.. there are 3 leds for hdd activity.. i don't have a mobo with 3 headers, but i could use them for lan and/or dvd-rw activity...
as a side note, there were some problems with the usb ports.. older versions of this case and others had usb1.1 ports only.. that didn't work at all.. they have some small chip here and a capacitor.. i don't know why they use these... i have usb ports that are simply a bunch of wires and the metal end.. and they work.. well, mine work fine and at usb2.0 speed...
lots of wires, long enough for a stealthy install... too bad they are not sleeved.. i'll have to do that later.. nice though that there is a zip mount that keeps them running in an orderly fashion..
the back i/o plate comes mounted with 2 screws.. unfortunatelly, my mobo has a different layout, so the i/o panel went back in the huge box the case came in..
case front stripped of the metal surplus...
this is the cpu duct, if u need cool air for the cpu..
the duct, all shrivelled..
..it's nice, but lacks the option of positioning it in the XY axis on the panel.. it's stcuk with 4 screws ant that's it.. if the cpu is positioned in a more exotic place than this duct allows, then u can't use it at max efficiency..
i like the badge too... no other comment..
Preping for install...
i/o cover removed..
space for my mobo..
pack of screws.. plus a zip tie..
like i said, lots of them.. more than i need..
..me mounting the hard drive..
optical drives use these rails.. u install them with the latch in the front of the drive.. they are quite good, but u still need a screwdriver for putting them on.. after that, u get a nice click :)
dvd mounted.. (oh, this is the new one with the old ones face ;) )
system installed, take 1..
lots of room to work in...
not everything was mounted, and for a reason.. seems i forgot to check if the psu can go in tru the space above the mobo... dang, so i had to take off everything(temporarily.. i dind't undo the connections, just had a friend lift the mobo a lil').. and i inserted the psu tru the front 5,25 openings..
system fully installed... CCFL added too.. his twin is dead in the closet :( ac ryan makes nice tubes, but without a titanium shell.. :(
shot of front.. i still don't like the uncentered fan.. but they made things this way.. there is a lot of room behind the hdds..say for a pump..
system back in it's place.. near the window.. running :) niiiice
leds work from the first try :p
So, except for the slightly higher temps.. which are coming down as sun goes down, i like the case.. much more roomy than the cheap noname..
Next to buy is an antec Smartpower 500... and maybe mod the front :) just an ideea... not sure yet.. it's such a nice case.. the mod must be nicer.. and keep the overall sleek look..
????
more pics... i made some with the lights on :)
i'm happy... i think i'm gonna go study a lil...
hi, back again... time for a small update:
i bought an ati silencer, no2. installed it :) realllly quiet :) the old one has been taken apart to study it and take some measurements...
my phone utility died... it refuses to respond... maybe it doesn't like windows media center... therefore, pics are stuck in phone...
also, i cleaned up a pc last night: cable management lite, cleaned heatsink, removed cvasi-toast video board, mounted 2x120mm fans.. got it from 73 degrees centigrade idle to 49, with that darn stock intel HSF.. could have done more, but not in the aloted time... i got some stuff for that:
2x 120mm wire-grills
1x PFC coil assembly.. or 48v transformer?!
1x riva tnt2 m64 w/32MB sdr.... any idea what to do with them???
nice things, right? :p
Great work.
so... i got the phone utility working.. misteriously... so i got the pics out of the phone :))
ati silencer no2.. came in nice shiny package..
..back of package.. :) man, i love getting these shniny packages open...
..(blurry) sticker.. don't like these... they are best suited on my phone's battery ;)
...dindn't need the instructions.. basically, the thing has to be "uninstalled" when you get it out of the package, so you have an idea how to mount it on the video board.. if u do it right, that is..
..this is also useful, as seeing you need some holes for the exhaust..
i hate this piece... so unaesthetic.. unfortunatelly, it is (still) needed as a back plate for the mounting mechanism..
the cooler out of the box, shoing itself in its full-copper-base form..
..nice fins..
..nice fan.. veeeeerrrrryyy silent... not only compared to the rest of my fans..
..nice sticker.. i hate it though.. i think i'll loose it and etch the clear case..
the fin array is very nicely bonded to the base and it looks very clean... no bends (i remember when i got my copper volcano 12 and took it apart.. some fins on the sides were bent.. :( )
..good thing they use thermal tape.. bad it isn't full-copper with some thermal compound...
..old card..
"old" gpu..
"new" (cleaned) gpu..
..it says swiss design, but it's made in china..
..new card :D with added silence...
card is quite thick now.. hmm... and longish.. 2xhmm
ugly.. will adress it later... i'm going home in 2 or 3 days, so no time now.. tools all packed...
...
..another shot :)
..test fit..
board installed.. now the prevoius "hmmm" was upgraded to "damn".. because of the ugly back piece, there isn't that much room for the cpu fan.. and i had to move the hard drive lower in the case.. because of the added lenght..
well... these are some pics.. i put these up not as a how-to-change-your-video-board-cooler but more as a before series of photos ;)
also, i took the old cooler apart and "max"-ed it :)
i hope one day i will get to do this.. my problem is that i can't mill copper with my dremel :)) and i can't find 20mm thick acrylic...
(oh, this is no standalone piece, as i hope that if i can make one, i will make some more.. like this:
..it's a jet impingement block with a labirint... looks good on paper.. hope pic doesn't reveal to much 8)
..and this is what i think will be better than anything else out there.. as far as watercooling solo can go:
a 30mm heatpipe with a fin-labirint surrounding it.. low flow and fast heat transfer.. i hope.. not seen this done before..
unfortunatelly, the heatpipe company Maz suggested previously did not respond :(..
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holy crap, nice render!
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holy crap, nice render!
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thanks.. but these are just 1 or 2 hour renderings.. i can even read the boards, listen to music, read about volt mods, watch a movie and do another max scene :) ;)
Those are nice. 3DS MAX is...well, i couldn't get my head around it. Nice work.
-Dave
:redface: 10ks.. 3ds isn't that hard... you just need some practice, tutorials and then lots of thinking and more practice.. it's not that hard to do pc-related stuf.. once you learn how to work with splines, extrusions, editable meshes and materials :) basically, you do it as it would be done in real life...
oh, if i'm not asking too much, seeing that i got your attention:rolleyes: , could you please comment on the designs.. are they any good? cause my theory is nothing without practice :(
66Amps on the 12v rail? That's a monster. Bet it'd handle TECs with ease.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rankenphile
Your designs are incredible, although in the first render, you have copper slats at the in and out. If you slightly angled these, then you'd probably get much better heat dissipation. But being honest...your work is beautiful. I REALLY wish you could make those parts. Do you do this professionally? Because those are better than most renders i've seen, and the quality of your designs is nothing short of brilliant.
-Dave
10ks again DaveW.. well, not professionally.. but considering i'm flunking exams because i study every thing i can get my hands on (virtually or not) and try to redo it and improve on it.. it's more of an obsession.. unfortunatelly, there aren't any universities here which would allow me to learn or have fun while doing my research.. so... life's hard.. i wish i was working, not just thinking.. tough luck i guess.. most people (who can pay me) here haven't heard of 3ds, they are looking for corel this and that, flash.. no CAD :(
a real rendering would take from 10 hours to a few days.. considering multiple lights and several passes with multisampling on the materials.. and for one picture only :) this of course with my current rig.. with an amd fx / extreme edition one i could probably make the times easily 5 times shorter.. but it would be more than 5x more expensive ;)
back on topic: what do you mean angled? like skew them towards the inside, or make 'em less "linear"? ...to avoid laminary flow and get more turbulence? like you said, these are just some "sketches", and i can change anything :)
ex: this pic took 17 minutes to render..
..other side took 3 hours :)
this block is lighter than the first (less acrylic), and has 2 lights affecting its colour :)
That's exactly what i was thinking. Christ, those are impressive, i tell you.Quote:
to avoid laminary flow and get more turbulence?
-Dave
