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Originally Posted by Rankenphile
Those Fireballs will have nothing on how that cold made me feel.
And it's good to know I've got support ;) .......Now if I could only get some free SWAG..8)
CrazyBillyBob
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Originally Posted by Rankenphile
Those Fireballs will have nothing on how that cold made me feel.
And it's good to know I've got support ;) .......Now if I could only get some free SWAG..8)
CrazyBillyBob
Here's the Pics I promised! and a little update.
The Wiring for the Drive motors is all installed.
I didn't get the Speed controller mounted because I ran out of Screws....Picked some up today at lunch so It will be installed tonight!
That means that Hopefully I'll have some action pics to post tomorrow :)
I've also been working on getting the legs back to looking perdy, I've started by gluing the inside skin back on the legs.
The Edges should be glued back on soon, just waiting for the inside to dry good.
The nice Pretty Battery boxes that I got from Craig needed moded a bit, because my motors stick out of the inside of the feet. So I had to put a 2 1/2" hole in the side so that the box seats flat on the foot.
The hole is a 2 1/2" top Radius, the bottom is flattish, just the shape the motor needed to fit.
Here it is with the Batt Box in place on the foot. (It's held there with tape for now, need to run a couple of screws in to hold it.
I also was busy Sanding and puttying, priming and painting.
Here's a big lot of Details All primered up, Drying before they are wet sanded (the second time for the eye pieces).
And Here are the Power Coupler insides after their repaint job.
There's still allot left to do, but things are getting there. I hope to finish the etching on the dome tomorrow night. That way I can have the paint done on it Saturday....That will give me a few good days of Dry on the clear.
Crazybillybob.......Back to work!
Well after allot of work and a bit of sweating (you know the last Speed controller I hooked up Exploded into flames inches from my face!)
The Scorpion XL is installed and All wired up.
As The directions For the Scorpion State I tested it with out the motors attached (pulled the fuses), Then did a quick calibration (jumper setting on the SC board). About this time my Transmitter Batteries died (what They've been sitting on the shelf for a month....never thought about them discharging), So It was late last night I but the Transmitter on the charger and went to bed. Planning on testing R2 after work today..... Well When I got up for work I walked by R2 and just couldn't leave him sitting there so close with out knowing. I hooked up the Batteries and fired up the transmitter...... He's FAST!!! :shock: , after playing gently with him for 10 mins I had to see what he could doo, Well I goosed the throttle, from 0 to full...... R2 Just about flipped over backwards.....He Rode the wheelie about 3 foot (that's how fast he is, I let go of the throttle as soon as I saw the front wheel clear the ground!) My wife saw me playing with him, and couldn't resist, she drove him around in a little circle for abit too (I knew she'd come around!!!) Well I did end up being about 10 mins late for work.... Played to long and got stuffed in traffic. So I don't have any video for you.... But I'll try and get the web cam out this weekend (It's not great quality but, you see him move!) and post a video .....OOOOW Outside, where I can open him up and not worry about my walls :)
Well, Back to work!
CrazyBillyBob <- A very Happy RedNeck!
I seriously can't wait. This is a pretty big day for ya!
Yeap, Wen to Work on Cloud 9;) .....Now I just have to consintrate on work instead of the R2 list in my head......That's proving to be harder then I thought!
CrazyBillyBob
I'm not surprised at all.
Congratulations, man. I'm proud of ya. It's been a blast to watch this thing come together. I can't wait to see it in action.
So how much other stuff you have to do on this? Did you ever get the projector working?
The Projector Works, I just have to test the new lamp I designed. It's 22 UB 3mm White LEDs surrounding a 1W LED.....(Yeap it's bright) I bread boarded it to check brightness. Then I etched a nice board (2 concentric circles around the 1W) It runs on 3Vdc so I've gotta wire up a LM317 to deliver 3Vdc (will do up to 1A so we're good on power). Once that's done I'll install it into the projector and button that up.
The Must be done by Wednesday (6/14/06) List is.
Wet Sand and paint the Holoeyes (Chrome)
Finish etching the dome, cut out the holes for all the details on the dome.
Mask off Prep and paint the Hypo Blue area's of the dome.
Mount the Mini ITX Mobo (on Tray then mount tray in R2)
Mount HDD
Load XP Pro, Updates, Virus software, BF2, BF2 (Battle front, battle field), Load custom R2 Sound software that includes Web cam control.
Mount all the details on the dome.
Mount Projector in dome.
Mount Web cam in Dome
Mount dome on Plastic ring.
Mount Lazy Susan to dome and Frame.
Find a 12V Battery charger, and 12V battery (for PC when not plugged in)
Paint and mount Utility Arms
Mount as many body details as I have painted or fabbed.
Place plastic filler Panes in place (some places on R2 need filled in)
Paint Feet, legs and body
Mount Rear Door and latch.
Build Crate to transport R2. Have Drawings and wood, just not done yet!
The inevitable crap I don't know needs to be done before one of the above can be finished. Plus pack up all my Crap For MML (My Rig, Gear and clothes, As I have a 5hr drive to Ohio to meet the Waffle Train, then a 7hr drive to MML, I've gotta pull out of Lansing by noon or 1 on Wednesday)
At this point Saturday Afternoon I'll be breathing paint fumes! (allot of Paint fumes), First thing in the morning I have to hit Harbor freight and Sams (for some tools and battery Equipment!)
To Quote BNL....
"Who needs Sleep, you know your never going to get it!" :redface:
CrazyBillyBob
Just out of curiosity, do you have any sort of shock or impact protection for the computer hardware in there, like the HDDs? If R2 has as much zip as you say, it's not unrealistic to picture him tipping over onto his shiny metal butt, which I'm sure a spinning HDD wouldn't care for much. Although, depending on the battery weight and where it is mounted, you may end up moving the center of gravity so low on him that this may not be an issue.
Not to put anything on your task list, of course, it already sounds like a pretty nutty schedule. You know what they say, though - work is the curse of the drinking class.
I do have some Shock absurbing material for the HDD. Though I'm pretty sure that it will only minorly help if R2 flipps. I'm hopeing that when I get the 4 12V 4.5AH Drive motor Batts mounted, and the 12V batt for the PC in place that the CG drops and the flipping becomes a none issue. I'm also thinking about limiting the output from the Transmitter (I've got a comp Radio, so I can set the out put of both channel 1 and 2 to max @ 75%, which will still be fast, but will limit the wheelies with N008 Drivers). The Shock mounts are two layers of this 1/8" Rubber Gasket Matrial that we use on test engines @ work (high temp, air tight), I think it will cut down on basic Road Vib, but not sure that theres a good way to save it from a flip (unless I mount in a Spring harness like they did with Nitro...back in the old days). But I had thought of that and it falls under the "Mounting the HDD" heading so your not adding work. :D That's the other reason the DVD Writer is not in there perminently yet, I don't want to break it the first time out.
CrazyBillyBob
Just a Question, with the recharge circuit, what are you doing for that? Because I might have a solution if you still need one.
Haven't thought about it much in a while. Shoot me what you've got and I'll look at it ! Right at the momnet I bought a regular 12V battery charger (for the PC batt) and I'll just have to power down to switch from batt to AC.....At LEast for MML...Quote:
Originally Posted by crenn
Well back to the shop....Been a very busy boy today :) Look For a Big Big Update monday (maybe a little leak before!)
CrazyBillyBob
Righto, I'll draw it up as soon as I can, beware, my drawing maybe a bit messy
Here is the suggested circuit.
Well here at the HillBilly Labs we've learned one thing this weekend....R2 Dome Suck!, They suck Time, Must be a special property of the Aluminum that it's made out of. Well my Plan to have this thing painted Saturday afternoon...Failed. The Dome was half etched when I started Friday night, It took another 6 hours to finish the etching, 6 Hours to finish adding all the holes, 5 hrs to mask and prep for paint, about 3.5 hours to prime and paint.
But It's painted!! And I didn't get that video up for you all :( Sorry R2 Hasn't moved again since the first day (to busy with the dome!), To add to the mess I realized Sunday morning that the center foot has never been bondoed :shock: So I spent a few hours working on that (while paint was drying outside). But You guys want PICs.....Here you go!
Here I'm etching the dome. The Dremel (Craftsman type) Is no longer with us....It coughed up smoke and blue sparks several hours after this pic was taken....Still under Warranty...So Back it goes....Current count R2 2 Dremels 0
To make the Various Sized round holes in the dome I used a single bladed hole cutter (Widow Maker) to etch a perfect circle about 1/4 through the aluminum. Then I made the center hole much larger (so the Jig saw blade would fit) then I cut lines from the center to the outer ring, that left me with "Hanging Pie" pieces. I used some pliers to bend the pie wedges in and out till the broke off. The hole cutter was set to be just abit smaller then I needed Then I used files and a sanding drum to bring the hole to the correct Size. (not pictured) The Squareish and rectangle holes were cut out with the Jig saw (Dremel died trying to cut the first pie wedge) then filed to size.
Here's the Dome Etched and Cut Ready for Masking!
Masking was a two setp Process, The fist being to mask the edges of all the panels to be painted blue.
The next Setp was to cover the large areas that will stay silver after painting.
Once Masked I wiped the exposed parts down with denatured alcohol (again). Then 3 coats of primer was laid down (forgot to snap pic). Then 3 Coats of Metallic Purple was applied.
Next 2 coats of blue candy was applied.
Followed by 4 coats of Clear.
A hairdryer was used to help speed up the drying time between each coat...(The Temps dropped to 55f Shortly after sundown Sunday night)
While the Primer and others were drying ( and to get me away from the dome) I laid and sanded a coat of bondo on the center foot, The picture is of the second coat of bondo (filling in some air bubbles and low spots).
Tonight I'll remove the paint mask from the Dome and Start mounting the Holoeyes and L brackets for the attachment of dome to Disk, as well as finish up the sanding of the Center foot (hopefully I'll get some Primer on it too!). I'm not going to Promise anything on the Video but I'll get one up ASAP!
Now Back to Work!
CrazyBillyBob
Great job, CBB. How are things looking for MML? I won't be able to make it this year, but I look forward to seeing lots of pics from it! Maybe you could take some pics for us of you and the other competitors.
Oh, I'm sure that Some MML pics will surface again this year.. :) I'll do my best to snap a few when I'm not gameing or answering Q's and what not!
CrazyBillybob
great as always, CBB. It's really coming along nicely. That's a pain that it took so long to get the dome done, though. That is one thing I have learned many times over in my life - estimated time to completion is about half what it will actually take, no matter how conservative the plan.
Nice work.... but you haven't said anything about the circuit I posted up for you......
Cernn,
It's still a posibility, but I'm not working on the Electrical system just yet. I'm in High gear to get R2 Presentable by well Tomorrow, so I'm not ignoreing you, and I thank you for your input, I just have not had time to ready sit down and see if it will fit in and how to make it fit in....But that is coming. I'm going to take a month or two off after MML (got some Home owner things to fix....Like a roof, a deck and installing a new patio...Deal I made with my wife so that I could pour the last few weeks of my life into R2 and ignore everything else!) But once I get back the Elec system in high on my list, cause I want the pc to run while I'm not plugged in. Sorry man, but that's where I'm at. and again THank you, I do Appreciate the input!
CrazyBillybob, Tired, blury eyed and behind!
It was another late night @ HillBilly Labs. Progress was made and Pitfalls Appeared :( But The Mood was light and the hour late.
After some work with a razor knife (to free the tape from the paint, by scoring a line at the edge of the tape, you pro's have got to tell me what I did wrong!) The dome's paint job appears. And He looks good in Hypo Blue !!
And After much thought and discussion (thanks Dave, Tolk, and My Wife) The feet were painted (Ok Primered) White... I know that before they get a final cot of paint that there is a bit more body work to do, so the white primer does two things it blends the body and feet together and points out some of the spots that need to be fixed..... It's both Form and function, I love it when a plan come together (name that 80's Tv Show, and for bonus point the character that made it famous!)
The Center foot (leg details in the background)
The Out Side Feet
The Hand made L Brackets to hold the Dome to the Plastic Ring were fabed (just some alum L channel cut to 1/2" lengths with a 1/4" hole drilled in the "Bottom" side. I laid out 8 points on the inside of the dome about 1.5" up from the lip. The Brackets were then mount in place with JB-Kwik (the tape is just to keep them from moving till the JB setts!), also the Screws for the Rear Logic display were JBed into place.
Now on to the computer type front, The motherboard Tray had it's brass stand offs installed. Hopefully the mobo gets mounted and the OS will be loaded today.
Your Reading this going , he said pitfalls, I don't see any pit falls???
We're getting to that point now. I tried to get one of each of the major detail pieces painted in there proper color last night, with grave results. I'm not sure what happened but on the booster cover the blue clouded up with in minutes of being applied (didn't use any clear....just more to sand off). The utility Arm had an even worse reaction the Paint just bubbled up and off of the arm... The only thing that I can think of is that I was close to the end of the can of blue candy and was trying to finish with what I had (the auto store is closed at 11pm here, and it's the only color that I don't have 2-3 cans of :( ) So these pieces will need to be stripped down, but I'm not sure that they'll get done before MML....(Not on the Priority list any more!)
So It was a mixed night, but I got allot done (What I don’t get home from work till 7Pm, and 2am is bed time...Still have to work :) )
Tonight will be mounting night, Every thing gets installed in R2. Dome Details, Battery supports, PC, HDD....you name it it's getting stuff in place. Also My wonderful wife is going to head up the R2 Crate project for me tonight (thanks babe!!!)
CrazyBillyBob
Trying to "Work" work done .....and failing, my mind keeps drifting to R2.
Missed the Pics of the Bad Paint.
Clouded Booster Cover
Blustered Utility Arm
CrazyBillyBob
I can see you're tired instantly by the fact that you spelt my name wrong! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by crazybillybob
I just hadn't heard anything from you, so I was beginning to think you either didn't like it or you hadn't noticed it. If you want, I can give you the extra notes you'll need, it also explains how the circuit works and what problems may occur with it, it will also include what type of diodes you need.
And you're welcome, if you could actually see my 'modding' book, you'll find quite a few pages of modding notes and electronic circuit designs. So this isn't a hassle, also the fact that the circuit I designed, most of it was on my mid-year physics exam! I just added a little (charging circuit, and changing a couple of things)
That would be the A-Team, and I believe the character's name was Hannibal, IE the leader of the team.Quote:
I love it when a plan come together (name that 80's Tv Show, and for bonus point the character that made it famous!)
Looking good!!!!!
I believe the character that made it famous was Mr. T.
EDIT: I better make it clearer. Hannibal, made the quote "I love it when a plan comes together" famous, but Mr. T made the show famous with his quote "I pity the fool"
Here's the video that I promised :)
The First one is a short demo of R2 Running.
http://www.fccmonline.com/LanImages/.../R2Dancing.avi
For fun R2SRV was entered into the MR. WSVG contest, here he is doing a dance.
http://www.fccmonline.com/LanImages/.../MRWSVG_R2.avi
More pics from MML will show up shortly.
CrazyBillyBob
that is so cool, man. I'm proud of ya. Nice work.
ha, sweet. Its really coming along. Glad it came togather for MML.
lol, whats that little not. "Do not _____" I'm going to guess touch, but still looks amazing.
One of the guys that went to MML with us stuck the do not disturb sign from my hotel room on R2 (people touching him and all when he was sitting on server row) with the hopes that housekeeping would wake me up friday morning..... They didn't :) Left the hotel before they came round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aero
CrazyBillyBob
Very nice, all you need now is it to be autominous!
That is something I'm looking At for the future....I need to get him completed first, then start upgradeing him to Autominous.... maybe a couple years :)Quote:
Originally Posted by crenn
CrazyBillyBob
Well, if you need a hand in something, I'll always be happy to help, I'm a bit of a robotics 'geek'.
Great...I'll add you to the list (got a few others that volunteered to help if I need it). But It will be a bit till I get back to work on R2.... I'm going to take a few months off, I promised my wife that I'd fix a few things around the house before I dive back into R2 (It was our little deal so that I could blow every thing off for the last four weeks....I mean everything She's great took care of it all!!!!)
I've got a few smaller R2 things to work on (which means there will be some posts here.....just not as many as normal) The outer feet need pined, and I'd like to see the Projector in place real soon. But I'm going step away for a bit (helps keep the burn out away!), But never fear I'll still be here hanging out in the forums!!!
CrazyBillyBob
whoa. wait.....projector.
Ok, I know it only makes sense but that would be amazingly awesome.
Yeah, Go back into my work log, I go into some details on how to make your own.... I think the end cost was less then $50us..... not counting the ac to dc convesion I'm doing (using a boat load of UB LEDS for a light source instead of a bulb). It's built I just need to get the light source installed then the whole projector mounted into R2.
CrazyBillyBob
You know If I ever built an R2, one thing it would have to be able to do is follow me around. Now I have no idea how this could be accomplished, but something like a radio emitter on your person and some kind of receiver that can tell direction and distance in R2 itself. and then a program that tries to maintain x distance away from you at all times. Then you have it setup so it has the follow program active or the remote control active, so if you want to do something you can whip out the remote, other wise he rolls along following you.
I notice in the moving videos the outside leg feet are not aligned with the ground, but aligned with the leg supports, yet I could swear the feet should be parrallel to the ground.
Looks awesome great to see it moving!
Your Absilutly Right, The Foot shells kept moving on me (even though they are Torqued down as tight as I can get them), It's due to the weight of R2 and the speed/Torque that is being transfered as he rounds the corners. That is also why I Want to pin the feet as soon as I can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thallion
As for the Auto Track, It's a feature that I've thought about but will only be able to make happen when/ if I make R2 autonimous..... Still Wrastling with this, he weighs in at around 150Lbs, and is very fast....he could hurt some one very easily and I plan on taking him to childrens events when completed...That could be bad news together. But it's still a thought.
CrazyBillyBob
The speed controller should make it so R2 can move slowly.... and I think I might have an idea for getting R2 following you around, it will be a couple of things. If you want it mentioned now, either post here or PM me about it.
I had missed this worklog for a while somehow, it's great to see so much progress in so little time. Well done CBB, i can't wait to see you finish this completely. :)
What's the battery life like on the little critter?
-Dave
This Log is not dead!!!
R2's coming back from Summer Vacation Shortly :)
Dave,
Battery Life is Crazy....On one Set (2 X 12V 4.5AH) R2 Ran At MML for 4-6Hrs....That's the DRIVE SYTEM :) and he's got 2 sets a Primary and a backup. I'm very happy about the Run Time. I have to keep both sets of Batts in R2 So that He Doesn't do wheelies so much....(Still does plenty of wheelies thou.....In fact I've had him Flip over on his back....An other R2 Builder saved him from hitting the floor ). I'm still looking for a big 12V Batt (12-18AH) for the PC side. I've got Lots of Things to do to R2 and now that my Summer Time "Out Side" home Improvements are wrapping up I'll get back to them.
Ready to MOD!!!
CrazyBillyBob
