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@Langer-I've seen that eeePC before. Thought it was amazing then and its still is now. I still don't know how you got all that in there. I've had mine for awhile but all I've done is put some memory in. I'm gonna have to look into modding it soon.
@markkleb-That looks awesom man, wish I was that good with a soldering iron.
+rep for an amazing, crazy soldering job
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actually soldering the back side of the mobo isant that hard.
Here are a few tricks..
1-its NEVER too clean (surface or soldering tip) make sure the surface is free of oils (including fingerprints) and any type of coating.
2- dont use a monster soldering iron.I use a 30 watt version with a voltage control and a pointy tip.
3- tin the tip.. clean the tip and apply a bit of solder to it before heating the wire or surface.
4- I like to strip about 1/8" of the insulation off the wire and apply solder to the wire. Than I put a bit of solder on the mobo.
5- MOST IMPORTANT TIP.. work fast here, touch the wire to the spot on the mobo and heat it up for 1 or 2 secs. only. That should be fine if you keep heat near the mobo longer than that heat will fry something. If the tip is dirty or the joint is dirty it will take a LONG time to melt the solder so stop and clean the tip (I do for every joint I make)
6-dont move the wire while it dries (just a few seconds) or it will crystallize (the joint will turn a flat shade of silver) It will be very brittle and not join well.
7- Double/triple check the wires..Soldering a yellow where a black goes is bad.
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Here's a very quick and dirty diagram to roughly show my intent with soldering the ATX and 12V lines to the bottom of the mobo.
I had a short run of (1250ft, lol.. minimum manufacturing length) 24conductor 18agage 'PrometheusCU edition' ribbon cable manufactured by ITW Pancon especially for this (and alot fo the other wires) purpose.
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Langer
After some solder, a touch of dremeling and some 'cablegami', I'm hoping to hide the wires completely.
I am really looking forward to seeing what you come up with. So far your work is spectacular.
(1250' of wire...that should keep you in wiring for quite a while)
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Thanks so much man, and right back at you - I'm quite eager to see your results. That one pic showed very promising results.
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come on langer do it already :) wow markkleb
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I have seen a similar thing dont with touch pads. I think it may have been markkleb's work lol.
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oh rly.... that sounds cool... althought im not sure how that would help :)
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Thanks guys!
Quickie update:
After a lot of measuring, scoring, snaping, drilling, and filing I have this:
1 down, 1 to go.
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I made one of them for my wireless LAN card, they look great.
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Langer
Thanks so much man, and right back at you - I'm quite eager to see your results. That one pic showed very promising results.
That was a very early job. I have done many more since then and improved the design quite a bit. I have been working with eliminating most of the wiring and making the whole comp modular (no wiring at all). My latest design was for Nvision (unfortunately I was not able to attend).
I am having problems now deciding on showing it or trying to profit from my new designs.
Its a very hard decision.
(thankfully I can watch your mod and the rest of the EXCELLENT mods at TBCS while I figure what the heck to do)
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profit for sure...
might not take off cuz the would have to alter the cases alot and it would be a pain to work on..
gl tho :)
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what is holding it off the card?
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3M double sided tape, but I also put down some Kapton high-temp take so that the double sided tape wouldn't melt to the card.
I'm going to use screws however - so I can space it out better and also because I want the mirror to tilt slightly forward.
The mirror serves several purposes - it looks cool, it will let you see the engraving on the AC waterblocks, and it prevents those little ram sinks from falling off - the holes are just big enough to let the fins poke though. I just hope it doesn't act like a little oven considering that the mirror has a thin coat of copper film on the bottom.
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:eek:The mirror is a massively cool idea. Have you ever seen anyone do this with an entire motherboard? +rep
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@Mach - EEL Ambiense did something like that on his 'Lumiere' project over on Bit-Tech - A beautiful case mod. -Link-
2of2.
Note that this one was made with a tilt to it to reflect the graphics on the GPU block better.
I've not yet installed it, it's just a friction fit with the ramsinks.
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Langer
I just hope it doesn't act like a little oven considering that the mirror has a thin coat of copper film on the bottom.
Well you've watercooled every other damned thing in this build, might as well watercool the mirrors! Lol, joking.
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what about using some 1/4" plastic spacers to keep it off the PCB and allow air to circulate between the PCB and plate.
Maybe a strip along the side (kind of like XFX does to cover the gap)
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Thanks for the link. I briefly thought about mirroring the inside of the lid for Cobra-matic but thought it would look to much like a car show display if I did. I may have to rethink that.
Oh yeah since you have a penchant for things made from unobtanium, let me introduce you to Radiant acrylic. It's reflective, semi transparent, color shifting acrylic. It's pricey, difficult to get, and only available in large quantities. In other words, perfect for PrometheusCu. :)
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how are the noise levels with the kama kaze fans.... I was thinking about using a push pull fan set on my rad just for giggles.. so if you have time to make a comment on the fan noise i would love to hear it.... nice work .. +rep
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OMG, that radiant acrylic is so cool.... It would be perfect for -yet another- project I have in my mind's eye. Thanks again for planting idea seeds Mach. (lol... Unobtanium... that movie was so bad).
The covers on the GPU blocks will be installed differently when It's all done, with a bit of an edge finish, some spacing and with screws.
Thanks guys.
The Scythe fans are pretty loud on full boar, but that wont be necessary 90% of the time. On 1/2 power they aren't that bad.... but I don't mind the extra dB's
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Now that is some cool looking plexi.
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Just ordered the 4x 64GB SSD's from NCIX.com
G.SKILL FM-25S2S-64GB 64GB 2.5IN SATA2 SSD
Performance Specifications
Sequential Read Rate 155MB/sec (MAXIMUM 170MB/sec in Vista)
Sequential Write Rate 90MB/sec (MAXIMUM 100MB/sec in Vista)
Access Time >0.2ms
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Damn, no expense is to much lol.
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you never stop amazing me... let some one else have a go :)
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@The boy 4rm oz - it's my own fault - the design didn't leave room for anytihng but SSD's - even the velociraptor is 2mm too tall.
@DonT-FeaR - Yes sir =(. hehe.
@mittelmeier - Thanks man.
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Langer
@The boy 4rm oz - it's my own fault - the design didn't leave room for anytihng but SSD's - even the velociraptor is 2mm too tall.
Only 2 mm? Heck, a hammer would fix that for you... :D
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lol, or a hydraulic press. Just stop right before contact of the spinning disk
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Hey folks.
I'm searching for a RAID controller.
Here is exactly what I want, in terms of board layout and specs:
Suitable for use with 4x 64GB SSDs
SATA2
Compatibility with Vista Ultimate 64
4x front facing SATA ports
*optional, but preferred* 2-4 rear IO eSATA ports
The card posted above is the Rosewill RC-218 - and although it may seem ideal at first glance it is only a 4-channel card; which means that it can only run 4 of the 6 ports at once (4xinterior & 0xexterior - or - 2x2). Since I'll be using 4x64GB SSDs with the board at all times, that makes the extra eSATA ports entirely useless.
If that's not possible then a 4-channel card with no external IO will do - but it must be 3gb/s, and have front facing ports.
I don't have much experience with RAID controllers, so any advice for things to look for and things to avoid are greatly appreciated.
Thanks a lot in advance!
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well... good luck.. lol you have lost me...
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He wants a 6 channel RAID controller which is black and has the same layout as the above pics. e-SATA is a bonus but not necessary and must be compatible with 64bit Vista and deliver 3gbps speed.
I will see what I can find mate, they will probably be Australian stores but you may be able to look up the model number back home.
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I found something that would suit your needs, it does have a green PCB but has a copper heatsink ;). I was thinking you could make a cover for it like your graphics cards.
High Point RocketRAID 2000 Series:
http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA/series_2000.htm
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Hazaa! The 2310 looks pretty ideal - but I'll need to do some more research on it.
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Yeah they look pretty decent, besides the green PCB lol.
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I have an older version of that card. I used it until I got a computer new enough to have SATA ports on it. The eSATA ports would be half covered up when the card was installed.
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This is basically the controller you want, trust me, you do NOT want ur 4 high performance ssd's to be run of a low performance controller without onboard memory and a decent cpu =)
your disk performance will plummit without something around these speccs
copy/paste
3ware 9690SA
Expand your Horizon
AMCC builds on established 3ware SATA RAID leadership to introduce the 3ware 9690SA SAS controller, the new standard in Serial Attached SCSI RAID. As SATA and SAS technologies converge, users look to 3ware SATA for price and performance and to SAS for SAS/SATA connectivity with expansion up to 128 devices. The 3ware 9690SA delivers accelerated SAS performance and the flexibility of internal and external connectivity. Whether customers require SAS, SATA, or SAS/SATA connectivity, 3ware will provide the right tool for the job.
Use the Right Tool
The 3ware 9690SA offers configuration flexibility with three PCI Express low profile controller choices: eight internal ports, eight external ports, and four internal/external ports. AMCC now offers a highly scalable 3ware serial storage product portfolio that includes 2- to 24-ports of SATA connectivity with the 3ware 9650SE and maximized SAS expandability to up to 128 devices per controller with the 3ware 9690SA.Users will also enjoy a unified RAID management interface and software suite which assures a picture perfect configuration experience with every 3ware controller, irrespective of its storage interface.
Data Protection and Performance
Advanced 3ware RAID architecture, SAS and SATA II performance features, including 3Gb/s and NCQ, help rocket the 9690SA to RAID 5 and RAID 6 performance heights. An optional Battery Backup Unit with integrated write journaling and remote battery mounting capability provides added data protection in the event of a power outage. The 3ware 9690SA supports RAID levels 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, 50, and Single Disk.
3ware 9650SE Features
* 8th-generation StorSwitchT non-blocking switched architecture
* On-board I/O RISC processor and RAID offload provides true hardware RAID - SCSI device driver model to take advantage of SAS or inexpensive Serial ATA drives
* Bootable array support for greater fault tolerance of your OS
* Variable stripe size for performance tuning by application
* Support for greater than 2TB volumes
* 512MB DDR2 533 memory with ECC protection
* 128 max disk drives via SAS expanders
* Complete configuration management suite
- 3ware BIOS Manager (3BM) - easy to use BIOS configuration tool
- 3ware Disk Manager 2 - browser-based management tool
- Command Line Interface (CLI) - scriptable configuration tool
* SNMP support
* SMTP support for email/pager notification
* Staggered drive spin-up support
* Auto carving allows LUNs > 2TB to be divided into multiple units for legacy operating systems limited to 2TB max. per LUN
* Battery Backup Unit (BBU) with remote battery support
* Write journaling for improved performance and data protection against accidental drive removal
* Multiple SAS/SATA RAID sets
* Multiple logical unit sizes and RAID levels on one card
* Hot-swap and hot-spare support for data availability
* Dynamic sector repair for robust data protection
* S.M.A.R.T. disk drive monitoring for reliability
* Emergency Flash Recovery protects against failed firmware upgrade
* Drive activity LED support
* Array/Drive Status and drive identification LED support
* Enclosure management via I2C and SES 2.0
* Drive insertion and removal notification
* Online Capacity Expansion and RAID Level Migration
* RoHS 6 of 6 and WEEE compliant
Model 9690SA-8I 9690SA-8E 9690SA-4I4E
Form Factor Low Profile Low Profile Low Profile
Port Count 8 8 8
PCI Express Lanes x8 x8 x8
Raid Levels 0,1,5,6,10,50,Single Disk 0,1,5,6,10,50,Single Disk 0,1,5,6,10,50,Single Disk
Onboard Memory 512MB DDR2 533 512MB DDR2 533 512MB DDR2 533
Connector Type SFF-8087mini-SAS SFF-8087mini-SAS SFF-8087/SFF-8088 mini-SAS
BBU Support Yes Yes Yes
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Thanks for the info mate, but I've decided on either:
HighPoint RocketRAID 3510 with an optional BBU *most likely choice*
or
Dell Perc 5/i.
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well.. better you than me cuz i have no idea when it comes to them