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Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
Hello all! There are many mods out there that have inspired me to take on a few projects of my own. The following log, is my most recent project based on the NZXT Rogue. I started it a year ago last fall, but didn't finish until August of last year. Although this may be re-posted content, I like the thought of possibly inspiring others to take on projects of their own.
I'll post my progress from the beginning for the sake of continuity, and add the appropriate dates. I won't edit my comments much, so you'll see that a few things have changed since I started work. Anyway, please feel free to contribute, or ask if you have questions about anything!
So, it begins...
November 5, 2007
Well guys, the dust has barely begun to settle on project L.O.S.I.A.S and I'm at it again. This time around of got a little help from NZXT, and lead designer Johnny Hou. As of three weeks ago, they supplied me with one of only two Rogues in the US, in hopes that I could create something pretty kick-ass. Well, who am I to turn down a challenge? I've got a thing for small form factor cases, and you can guarantee I'll use up every bit of room in this case when given the chance. Although I've got free reign with this project, there were specific goals that I set out to achieve. Let's see... for starters...
Watercooling - Oh, without a doubt. This thing must be watercooled. How does dual loops and dual 240.2 radiators sound? A loop for the CPU, and a loop for the GPU's.
LCD - I don't think I could build a case without one. How does a 10.2" widescreen sound?
ATX motherboard - Been there, done that? Well, there have no doubt been mods before this that incorporated an ATX motherboard in a mATX case. However, due to the size of the Rogue, it's possible to fit one in the case a little easier than in others. The biggest difference here, is that all connections will be routed to the rear of the case. That's one thing most other ATX -> mATX mods haven't been able to achieve.
Everything else - Well, this is a big category. Lots of little things that add up quickly. How about a hard drive rack that's removable without opening that case, integrated fan and lighting controls, custom plexi side panels, automotive digital gauges, and the list goes on.
Other hardware specs are still up in the air, but the design goal will remain, regardless of the components used. That being said, would quad Crossfire be overkill? Nah, didn't think so... I've got big plans here, so I'll do my best not to let all of you down!
Now that I've got the preliminaries out of the way, how about a few pics? Here is the case as it arrived to me.
Like a kid on Christmas morning, let's rip this thing open!
Most of you have probably seen the stock photos, but here are a few shots that you haven't seen before. I've started to disassemble the case. You can see shots with the face removed, followed by the hard drive and CD/DVD trays.
More coming shortly!
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
November 6, 2007
Everyone that has seen this case, wants to know about watercooling. Is it possible? Of course! This case does have plenty of room for expansion if you're willing to get a little creative.
My little red beauties...
So, what do they look like in the case? Well, this is where we run into a minor clearance problem. As configured, one of the hard drive racks prevents the radiator from sitting any further forward than pictured. However, you could simply mount the radiator as is, or remove the rack on one side of the case for clearance. You would still have the rack on the other side of the case, and the 3.5" bay to utilize if so desired. Of course, with my plans, I could ditch both drive racks completely.
Oh yeah, now that's a little better!
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
November 6, 2007
Here comes the fun part... It's also the most work. I mentioned custom plexi side panels earlier. Well, let's get on with it!
The side panels are easily removable with two screws. These things are very solid, and are the perfect foundation for what's coming next.
What would we do without masking tape? I've marked out the pattern and everything looks ready for the dremel.
Time to cut. Man, this stuff is thick!
Okay, what now? The hole is cut, but I'm nowhere near finished. I've got to nix those ribs. The plexi panel will sit in a recess in the side panel. What I wouldn't do for a machine shop and some CAD/CAM equipment. For now it's just a dremel and a file. This might take a while...
Well, it's back to work for me guys. More updates coming soon...
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
November 14, 2007
For all of you patiently waiting... I've got another update here.
I never seem to get as much done as I would like, but I'm always making progress. With this update, you can get an idea of how the radiators are going to be placed in the case. It may not be what you were expecting...
Let's start this off with one of my new toys. It's an 18" metal brake! I'll be using this for all of the fabrication work on the case. It's not huge, but then again, it doesn't need to be. The thickest material I need to bend, will be 1mm aluminum.
Here I've got a picture of one side panel almost completed. There's a little filing to do, on a few rough edges, but it is 95% completed. It's enough for me to move on to the next step. I'll come back to the side panels later.
Here are a couple of shots with the side panel placed on the case. You should clearly be able to see the recess in the panel where an acrylic panel will be fitted.
Finally, I've started test fitting cardboard inside the case. These are approximate representations of the aluminum radiator mounts. A hole will be cut in the mount to match the radiator, and the radiator will be mounted on the inside of this panel. Once the case is assembled, there should be about 1cm or so, between the mounts and the side panel. There is a certain look I'm going for here, and when finished, there will be CCFL's located on both the top and the bottom of the panel. This should add a nice glow to the acrylic and radiator, without being over the top.
More coming soon...
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
November 15, 2007
I should have a decent updated posted by tomorrow. In the meantime, I've been pulling in and finalizing a few more ideas. The more I plan, the more I realize, that I'm gonna have this case packed! It may have twice the volume of the Sugo in my previous project, but it's still a SFF case. The radiators and fans are taking up a fair chunk of space all by themselves. I've already had to do some behind-the-scenes re-envisioning to make sure I have room for all my components. In order to fit a full size ATX motherboard in this case, it's simply not feasible to have the fans mounted directly on the radiators. However, in order to achieve airflow through them, there will be six 120 mm fans exhausting air from the case. The case will be sealed, with the only air inlet being though the radiators. This will ensure that the coolest air possible, finds its way in to the case. In addition, I should now have room for 6 hard drives. As started earlier, these will be on a custom removable rack. The rack will sit forward of where the current rear 120mm fan sits. With the removal of a couple of screws, the entire hard drive assembly should slide right out the back of the case. I hope to give more details when I get a little closer to that part of the mod.
Other notes here...
The case will have a slightly automotive type theme. As such, the case is going to have a pair of these Dakota Digital gauges to measure the water temps for each loop.
I'm also going to incorporate one of these Griffin Powermates...
I've got my LCD choices narrowed down. I'm going to be using one of the following. Which one, will be determined on available space left after gauge placement is decided.
10.2" 4:3 ratio 800x600
10.2" 16:9 ratio 800x480
9" 16:9 ratio 800x480
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
November 16, 2007
I needed a short break from modding while my drill charges, so I thought I'd upload a few pics of what I've been working on tonight. I decided to get one of the radiator mounts made. In order to do so, I needed a guide to make sure my bends were accurate.
Here is the 1mm brushed black aluminum I'll be using for the mounts. This stuff looks great!
I've started to mark where I need to make the bends. Tape was used to prevent scratching.
All clamped in...
2 bends down, 2 more to go.
Perfect! I couldn't ask for better results. The brake performs as expected, and I couldn't be happier.
Next up, I'll test fit the mount inside the case. Assuming all is well, I'll mark out, and cut the hole for the radiator.
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
November 21, 2007
Another day, another update... It seems that no matter how hard I try to get away from it, all of my projects seem to involve insane amounts of filing. In fact, that's what I've been doing for the past couple of days. I guess I shouldn't complain too much though, as I've always been happy with the results. All of that filing, leads to the following update.
When I left off with the last update, I had just finished making the bends in the radiator mount. Next up, was the hole for the radiator. I used a template and careful measurements, to make sure everything was where I wanted it to be.
I didn't get any pictures of the cutting process, but a dremel and a reinforced cutting wheel made pretty quick work of the aluminum. At that point, I had to file and straighten the cuts, followed by a light sanding of the edges. The work and patience paid off, and I was left with the results below.
A test fit with the radiator, and all looked well!
The only thing to do at this point, was take a look and see how the mount and radiator fit into the case.
Finally, with the side panel on.
I've got get the mount fastened into the case yet, and before I do, all exposed edges will get a touch of black paint. I've also got to get low profile mounting screws for the radiator. These will be black as well. There is a little work to be done on the case side panel yet, but I'll try and get the other radiator mount finished first, then worry about finishing the panels. Stay tuned!
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
December 4, 2007
I've got a small update here. I'm currently waiting for a few parts and the guages to arrive, but in the meantime, I'm close to finishing the second side panel. Unfortunately, until the missing parts arrive, they're won't be much in the way of huge progress. I can tell you this, Summit Racing sure isn't Newegg or FrozenCPU...
Who doesn't love new tools? I've been meaning to get taps for a while, this project was just the push I needed.
A little panel prep...
Here you can see where one of the CCFL's will fit. There will be an identical one on the bottom.
More to come...
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
December 10, 2007
Sometimes I just can't help myself... I get these ideas in my head, and think I need to find a way to follow through. Just like my L.O.S.I.A.S. project, it seems I want to find room for one more component. Well, today I've found two more items that I want to cram into this case.
The first is a fairly new Matrix Orbital display. The GX Typhoon to be specific. The only problem I see at this point, is the very limited availability. It's currently backordered until the 31st of January...
Here is a video of the display in action.
The second item is a barebones Pico-ITX system courtesy of Via. The sheer number of possibilities with this thing is a little crazy to think about. It could easily make use of the LCD that will be on the case. It would also be networked, and could allow 'offline' downloading of files even when the main machine is off. Just dump the data on a shared network drive, and you're good to go.
December 13, 2007
I've got a small update here. The past week has been pretty hectic for me, but I've managed to get some work done on the motherboard tray. I'm also still waiting on a few parts that have yet to ship. I'll blame it on the holiday season...
The tray will be cut out of 2mm brushed aluminum. Frankly, it's a shame this won't be visible to anyone. I really do love the look of this stuff. Below I've marked and cut the tray.
Pretty simple, huh? Now I need to find a way to secure the tray in the case. I'm basically making brackets that will slide in to the old motherboard tray's original position. This will allow for the tray to be easily removed from the rear of the case.
Time to put the metal brake to work... The two brackets were taped together during the bending. This ensures matching bends on both pieces.
Here we have the brackets sitting in their approximate positions on the upside down tray. The brackets will be bolted to the tray shortly...
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
December 30, 2007
Who's ready for an update? Things have finally gotten a little slower for me. Most of the holiday season has passed, and I've finally been able to get a little work done. Actually, the work's never really stopped. It's just been awfully sporadic with everything else that has been going on. That being said, I've now got a self imposed deadline. My goal is to have the project completed by the next Netwar in Omaha. That gives me a little less than two months. Wish me luck!
One of the things I really needed to get done in order to move forward, was to finally finish the second radiator mount. Here we see the bending in progress. This looks kind of familiar...
It's a perfect match...
A test fit inside the case shows that everything lines up perfectly.
Due to the positioning of the front USB and sound ports, I need to notch the radiator mount.
A little help from the dremel and a file got the result I wanted.
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
December 31, 2007
With the panel bent, and the notch cut, now I need to get the radiator hole cut.
After the dremel...
I couldn't ask for anything better.
I used my radiator template to mark the mounting holes.
Woohoo! Another one done! This is what it's all about!
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
December 31, 2007
Just before Christmas, the UPS guy left me a little present.
A free hat...
Such a little box. Is this what I waited over a month to get?
Pictures can't do this thing justice. It's absolutely amazing to look at in person. This thing may not have been cheap, but it certainly doesn't look like it is either. I think it's really going to set this case off.
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
December 31, 2007
Well, now that I've got the second radiator mount done, what does it look like on the case? I'll let the pictures do the talking.
Ah, the motherboard. Of the two possible orientations, both have their pros and cons. Check out the second pic though. If I'm willing to lose a bottom slot on a motherboard, I'll gain a ton of space and not have to deal with routing extension cables to the rear of the case. I'll also not be limited by the length of my video cards. So many possibilities...
Now, finally, I thought I'd throw up a couple shots of the CCFL's lighting the radiators. It looks amazing in person. Perfectly subtle. It's exactly what I wanted.
More coming soon!
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
January 10, 2008
I've got a quick update here... I've got some cool little accessories for my dremel. I was walking through a hardware store the other day, when I spotted the box in the picture below. It's a quick-release mandrel kit for cut-off wheels. I seem to burn through quite a few wheels with all the cutting I do, and thought this would be a great way to make the changes easier. Not to mention, the wheels are a larger diameter than what I was using.
Closed...
Open...
Push on, twist, and release! It doesn't get any easier.
As cool as the new cut-off wheels were, I also had something else show up on my doorstep today.
That's a whole lot of air moving potential there. These are all 120mm x 35mm Sanyo Denki San Ace 1011's. According to this review at xtremesystems, they can kick some serious ass.
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I'll spoil one result for all of you upfront: the Sanyo Denki San Ace 1011 is king of the hill. And by hill I mean universe. It's really, really good. In addition to its insane empirical results (see below), it makes NO extraneous noises and undervolts like a champ. I have five and they all perform like this and they all start at 4V or lower. They could kick Chuck Norris's ass....silently.
They're ball bearings as well, so you don't have to worry about the sleeve bearing inconvenience. They also perform past their listed specs--something that's exceedingly rare in these SilenX days. Good luck finding any though...and when you do, they're $25 a pop.
Don't let the quoted price scare you though, they are currently available at FrozenCPU for about $14 apiece.
These fans are freaking solid, as well as heavy. High quality stuff indeed. Once I throw a good fan controller on these, I'll have the best of both worlds. A fan that is inaudible, yet can move some serious CFM's when it's warranted.
So, you might be wondering where these things are going to find a home in the case. Well, they all will reside in a custom panel on top of the case. I may not have the specifics figured out yet, but they will tie in with the slightly automotive engine theme. In fact, I'd like them to look something like valve covers. Two rows of three fans, slightly angled to the left and the right...
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
nuary 20, 2008
Oh, the irony... As I type this update, DFI has announced the possibility of SLI and Crossfire capable mATX motherboards. It's something that I've wanted for quite some time now. Especially since my current eVGA SLI board is showing it's age. At this point, it's come a little too late to change the course of this project. I've got the perfect case in the Rogue, and it's ATX or nothing at this point. So, that brings me to the following update.
Here I've got the motherboard tray finished. The mounting studs are in place, and it's almost ready to be placed in the case. There is very little room for error at this point. The clearances are very tight between the radiator mounts.
As you can see from the above pics, I need to come up with the rear panel for the case. As luck would have it, I've got the perfect donor. (Yes, it is purple...) I happened to have an old case left over from a mod I had done for my daughter.
With the panel removed from it's donor, it's time to find it a new home. Here you can see it sitting inside the case. It actually fits quite well. You can see that I will need to do a little cutting on the rear of the case, but all in all, it shouldn't be so bad.
Next up, will be to get the panel fitted in place, and repainted of course...
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
January 23, 2008
I briefly mentioned this earlier, but now I've got a few more specifics. This case is also going to have a Via Artigo pico-itx PC inside. It will be wirelessly networked to the Rogue, as well as my home network. It will run independently of the Rogue, and have access to it's own large capacity drive. It will be used for downloading files and data, and will dump that info on to a shared network drive. The Artigo will make primary use of the touchscreen on the front of the computer. Although it will be two separate systems, I will use Synergy to allow seamless transition between the PC's. Sounds like fun, huh?
January 30, 2008
Well, I know you all are eagerly waiting, and this isn't all my progress to date, but I think now is great time to post a few pics.
I didn't get a picture before I made all of my cuts, but here I've taped out where I need to do a little finish filing.
I need to take care of the open gap at the bottom of the case. This piece of aluminum should take care of it...
All clamped in, and cut for height.
Now finally, the back panel is riveted in to place. Just a little more detail work, and I'll have it!
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
February 5, 2008
I was gone over the weekend, so I wasn't able to get any real modding done, but work still continued. I was able to get a few more miscellaneous parts ordered, including the elusive LCD screen. I had several sources fall through for different reasons, until I finally found this 10.2" wisdescreen LCD.
I've also got the grill designed for the fans on top of the case. There will be two banks, of three fans each. The grill will be mounted on each of them, with the addition of a hex mesh beneath...
More coming shortly.
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
February 7, 2008
I love days like today... Not only is it Friday, but I had a long awaited package on my doorstep when I got home. My new Matrix Orbital display has arrived, after a several month backorder. It is the GX Typhoon MCE. Let's take a look at this thing...
Everything out of the box...
This thing is just begging to be modded...
Since this is the Media Center Edition, it comes with a remote. It can handle all MCE functions.
The model I received is the Tri-color unit. That basically means that I can change the display to any one of three colors, and any combination in between. I've taken a few shots to give you some idea of how cool that feature is.
Red
Green
Blue
Purple
I could go on, but you get the idea...
The LCD uses LcdStudio for it's interface and display design. The software is pretty slick. It's basically drag and drop. You can add and resize display components on the fly. The software supports a ton of additional plugins for displaying information. ATITool, Fraps, RivaTuner, Speedfan, iTunes, etc.
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
February 9, 2008
Sometimes you just have to improvise... As (bad) luck would have it, the Via Artigo that I wanted to put in this case, seems to be out of stock everywhere I look. Most eta's put it's arrival at the end of February. Well, I'm way to impatient to wait almost a month before it arrives. I don't want it to hold up any work on the case, and that's where the improvisation comes in. As it turns out, you can buy the Via PX10000G Pico-ITX motherboard separately, so that's exactly what I did. So, I purchased that, along with a DC-DC power supply, hard drive, memory, and wireless adapter. The only thing I'm really missing is the small case to put all the parts in. Well, after thinking about it, I don't know if I really needed the case anyway. I can fab something of my own almost as easily. It's a little strange to think about the fact that I bought an entire 'computer' last night... just to put inside another computer... crazy!
February 9, 2008
Well, I just ordered some more parts. This time around, it was mostly for cooling. After much contemplation, I decided to go ahead and pull out the big guns here. If I truly want this case to be something amazing, plain old watercooling wasn’t going to be enough. That being said, I went ahead and ordered the Wintsch Labs Arctic Web TEC cooler, and a Meanwell auxiliary PSU. I also ordered the rest of the needed tubing, barbs, and fittings. At this point, I don’t know if I’m just really committed to being crazy, or crazy enough to be committed…
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
February 10, 2008
Who doesn't love parts? I had another package arrive from FrozenCPU. I sometimes feel like I single-handedly keep them in business. :cheese:
A few LED switches, shrink wrap, wire sleeving, and a laser LED light...
A little hex mesh...
Since the case is watercooled, I wanted a decent sized reservoir. This is designed to fill a 120mm fan hole.
You'll see here why I chose the reservoir that I did. I thought I'd take care of two issues at once. Not only did I need a reservoir, but I had a 120mm hole in the back of the case that I needed filled.
In order to fit the reservoir in place, I needed to do a little trimming.
A little work with a dremel, file, and sandpaper got me the following results.
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
February 10, 2008
Since I had the Matrix Orbital display arrive, I thought I'd jump to a little work on the front panel. The LCD will be situated on the lower center of the front face. The Dakota Digital gauges will flank it on the left and the right, with the widescreen LCD sitting above it.
Here I've marked out where the display will sit.
After the rough cut.
After the final filing.
The display will be recessed behind the panel. Although the door won't need to be used on a regular basis, it will be able to swing free and clear.
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
February 11, 2008
Another quick update here...
I decided to get a little work done on the top of the case. Due to the dual radiators, and the ATX motherboard, there simply isn't room to mount fans directly to the radiators themselves. This meant I had to take a different approach to airflow. The best option I had was to mount fans on the top of the case. By doing this, fresh, cool air will be drawn in to the sides of the case and through the radiators, then pulled out through the top. Since the rest of the case will be sealed, the only place the air can be drawn in, will be through the radiators. I may lose a little efficiency compared to having the fans directly on the radiators, but I doubt it will be that much. Not to mention the fact that I'll have six fans, for a pair of 240.2 radiators. Also, the Sanyo Denki fans are airflow monsters. They range anywhere from a soft breeze, to Hoover, all at surprisingly quiet noise levels.
Here you can get the basic idea for the top of the case. There will be a panel angled to the left and the right. This will be made using the original cover, in addition to some strategically bent 1mm aluminum. The whole assembly will be easily removed in one piece, just as the original version. I'm checking in to some sort of contact type of connection that will remove the need to unplug the fan wires when the top is removed.
Only 4 of the 6 fans are sitting on here right now. I have to cut a little metal to make 6 fit, but I'll have that done shortly.
With the above pictures, you should get an idea of where the fan grills come in to play. I'm not completely sold on using fans that are 38mm thick, however. I was hoping for something with a bit lower profile. Even though the Sanyo's are a stellar fan, should I ever want to swap fans at a later date, it should be pretty simple to do so.
More to come...
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
February 14, 2008
I thought I'd get a quick update posted. I've got a little more work done on the face.
After the hole cut for the Matrix Orbital LCD, I thought I'd go ahead and get the holes cut for the Dakota Digital gauges. I used a hole saw for the initial cut, which you can see here.
It didn't cut as cleanly as I had hoped, but a little dremel work and filing is getting it in pretty good shape. I've still got a ways to go though. Circular holes suck so much more than rectangles.
I'll continue work on the face of course, but in the meantime, I thought I'd show you some of my new parts arrivals.
This box right here contains the long awaited 10.2" LCD.
I also had my second digital gauge and sending units arrive. While the other measures water temp, this new one will measure the ambient air temp in the case.
I have a few more parts arriving tomorrow. I'll post pics of what arrives, and I think you'll find it much 'cooler' than most of my other parts...
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
February 15, 2008
Parts, parts, parts! That's what this update is all about. I can't wait to cram all these goodies in the case. So, where should we start?
How about with this monster of a power supply. It's a Meanwell SE-600. I'ts capable of putting out a solid 600 watts, at 24 volts. I must say, it's a little larger than I had hoped. No matter, it only makes the challenge of fitting it in the case, all that much more fun!
Okay, so why do I need a power supply that massive? TEC baby! Not just your everyday TEC either, I've got 437 watts of cooling potential here. It's hard to believe that this little square is capable of cooling to subzero temps.
How am I going to pull of that much heat? Enter the Wintsch Labs Arctic Web CPU cooler. I'm not sure exactly how much this thing weighs, but I can tell you that it is beyond solid...
Here are the necessary foam gaskets, because this thing is guaranteed to cause condensation without them.
So, we've got the TEC and power supply covered. Here's something a little extra. It's a Swiftech relay for the PSU. No extra switches needed, just turn on the computer, and the relay does the rest.
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
February 15, 2008
A little more here...
This is one of my favorite parts... Can you say pico-itx?
Here's the centerpiece. It's so freaking small! It's completely fascinating to hold in your hand...
As cool as that is, I still need some way to power it. Here's where the DC-DC power converter comes in to play.
Also, since the Via system will operate independently of the Rogue, I decided to make it wireless capable. Via makes a kit that is pretty small as well.
More to come!
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
February 22, 2008
I went and did it... Yes, I killed another Dremel. My own impatience got the best of me. One of the motor brushes actually melted in to it's plastic casing. It did feel a little warm... I guess I'm off to the hardware store to pick up another one tomorrow. Toasted Dremel or not, work must go on.
I might as well start with the hole for the 10.2" LCD. Here I've got a paper template measured out and centered on the front of the case.
The hole all taped out and ready for cutting.
Here the rough cuts are finished. Due to the dead Dremel, I had to finish with a jigsaw. While it works, it's definitely not my preferred method.
All filed and finished.
See this? It's a simple PVC pipe coupling.
So, what is it for? Well, follow along here... I've got a piece of card stock.
Cut in to a strip.
The paper is coiled and sitting inside the hole.
Everything marked.
The paper template was cut out and transfered to the PVC coupling. After the coupling was cut to match the template, I was left with the following.
Now for the other side... More to come!
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
February 22, 2008
I know I've posted little bits of information here and there, but many people are still wondering how this is all going to be pulled together. If you were to look at the parts list, you would wonder how I can find the space for all of these parts. Well, I've got a few pictures here that give you some idea of the direction I'm headed. You should also see that there is more room in here than you think, as long as you use the space wisely.
One look at the front panel of the case, and it's pretty easy to see that traditional DVD drives simply aren't going to work. That's were slot load laptop drives come in to play. I've used these drives on L.O.S.I.A.S., and I absolutely love them. It was an easy decision to drop some in the Rogue. So, where are they going?
Take a look at this pic. The drives will sit on the floor of the case. The motherboard tray actually sits slightly above them. When finished, there will be a panel covering them as well.
Literally, one of the biggest additions to this case, is the Meanwell power supply. This thing is rather large, and finding room for it was a little tricky, to say the least. I did find the perfect spot for it though, and it fits there like a glove. Even though only one radiator is shown in place, you can see how it sits in the case. Airflow blockage shouldn't be a concern.
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
February 25, 2008
Well, I've finally decided on a platform and chipset. As much as I wanted to go with ATI cards this time around, I just couldn't do it. They may have few decent cards out right now, but NVIDIA always seems to be one step ahead. I would have loved an X38 or X48 chipset, but then SLI wouldn't have been an option. So, that leaves me with the new 780i chipset. Granted it may be only marginally better than the 680i's, but I didn't want to pay the price premium for DDR3 on the upcoming 790i's.
So, what board did I get? I decided on the MSI P7N Diamond. There isn't a whole lot of information available out here on this board right now, but I like the fact that it uses a non-reference design.
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p...amond&class=mb
The MSI board paired with the 9800 GX2's or GTX's, sounds like a killer combination to me! I'll post a few more pics of the board once I receive it later this week.
February 28, 2008
Time for another update! I'm still working on the face of the case. I'm really liking the way it's turning out, but it's definitely time consuming.
In order to continue on the face, I needed to get the DVD drive placement finalized. Here I've got the area I need to remove marked off.
With the hole made, I checked for fit using on of my DVD drives.
Now that I know the DVD drive position is finalized, I can work on getting the slots made in the front cover.
I've finished the rough cut here.
Here are the slots all filed and finished with the exception of a little touch up sanding.
Now I've got a few smaller things that I've been working on. I've got the old power button holes filled. A little JB Weld took care of it...
I also have the pocket almost made the second temperature gauge.
More coming shortly!
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
March 4, 2008
Time for another update! I've made some pretty good progress in the past few days. What have I been doing? Making holes... Big holes, little holes, rectangular holes, and round holes... I'm starting to dislike holes a little. I'd much rather be fabricating, but it all starts with those dang holes.
In my last update you saw the work I did on the DVD drive slots. So, I'm picking up right there. With the slots completed, I needed to make a hole for the eject button. You'll see that I made the hole larger than the button itself, but there's a very good reason for that. I'll go into detail on that a little later, but for now, you can see what I have so far.
Now I need to make the holes in the front of the case for the gauges. This whole process has been a little time consuming to say the least. There are technically 3 layers I need to make holes in. It starts with the door, then the front of the case, then there's another panel behind there yet...
One hole done, another one started.
It's a perfect fit!
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
March 4, 2008
Well, it's time to get the hole made in the face for the LCD screen. Here I've got it marked out and ready to cut.
After the cutting is finished, a little filing and sanding gets things in to shape...
The LCD drops right in place.
More holes you say? Of course! Here I've marked out the hole for the Matrix Orbital display.
Another cut, file and sand completed.
At last, I move my way to the inner most panel. Here it changes from aluminum to steel. It's thinner though, and the cutting should be easier. Instead of dust, I'm gonna make sparks. In this picture, I've already got the holes for the Dakota Digital gauges made.
Now finally, I do a little work on the Matrix Orbital display housing. Naturally, this thing isn't going to be sitting a bay as it was designed to. That's where a little modification comes in. Here I've got the mount marked, and ready for cutting. The left pencil line is where a bend will be, the right line is where the cut will be.
After it's cut and bent, this is the end result.
More coming soon...
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
March 6, 2008
Man, I love updates! Updates mean progress is being made. It's a little bittersweet though. I can see the end in sight, yet building is so much fun. I don't want it to end, yet I have other projects (home related) I need to work on.
With my last update, I was still making holes. With this one, I'm still making holes, although they'll be a little smaller in the end. To start here, I needed to finish the hole in the frame for the widescreen LCD. Luckily, there really wasn't that much cutting involved.
Now, here is a shot with the LCD's and gauges sitting in place.
Okay, now that's out of the way. So, what's next? Well, I need a fan controller. Not just any fan controller, I have a Zalman ZM-MFC1 Plus.
Okay, that's a fine controller you say, but where the heck am I going to put it? If you've been paying attention, space on the front of the case is at a premium. That doesn't mean I'm out of room though. In fact, far from it. However, it's not exactly a 'drop in' procedure. As with everything else so far, a lot of cutting and modding will make it fit.
Well, let's get on with it! Here you can see where the controller will sit.
That brushed aluminum face sure looks nice, but it's gotta go.
Here I've got the holes for the knobs marked out and ready to drill.
The holes have all been drilled, and the fan controller is test fit in place. Everything seems look good. You can see how the LED's in the fan controller will show though the hole in the case.
To be continued...
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
March 6, 2008
I'm going to get sidetracked for a quick moment here. While working on the face of the case, I thought I'd take a little time to make the holes for the Bulgin switches that will find a home there.
All marked out...
Here's the secret to getting great large holes. Only a nice step drill bit will do. They're not exactly cheap, but they're worth every penny spent.
Moving back to the fan controller, this picture shows you a little bit of the problem I've got to work out. The inside frame on the case is in the way. Well, not for long... A few holes and filing will take care of the problem!
More coming soon.
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
March 7, 2008
Although not directly modding related, my new motherboard has arrived... I'm not sure on the processor yet, but I do have two new sticks of 2x2GB Mushkin DDR2 Redline that I'm going to drop in here.
I can't wait to get this thing up and running. The fact that I've now got almost every component I need, only makes me realize that I'm very close to pulling this whole project together. From here on out, I shouldn't have to spend my time picking out parts, and wondering what I yet need or want. I've got to take what I already have, and a find a home for all of it. Only a little over a month to go!
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
March 10, 2008
I've got just a quick update here. Although I have work to do on the front of the case, I decided to mix it up a little. I started working on the top of the case, and it's associated fan assembly. It's the largest cutting project I have left, and I am anxious to get it out of the way. If you've been following along, you should have seen a mock up earlier in the log. This should have given you some idea of the direction I'm headed.
The first thing I had to do, was get the layout marked on the case's top panel. You can see that there is a small strip missing where the original acrylic window was. I'll fill that in a little later.
The final cut is done, and I'm working on cleaning up the edges.
All done except for the filler strip.
Okay, so now what? Well, the fans won't actually be sitting in top of the case. They will be sitting in recessed and angled pockets. The next step is to get the pockets made. Here I've marked out a panel, and it's ready to hit the metal brake.
All bent!
I can't use the panels as they are, I need to cut the excess aluminum off. Here's one side done.
Now the other side.
That's it for now, but I'll have another updated for you all tomorrow. Stay tuned!
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
March 11, 2008
I've got a micro-update here. I'm currently still working on the top panel, but I've got a couple more shots of the work in progress.
Here you can see the top panel sitting on top of the fan tray. The missing strip will be added once I join the two pieces together.
Then finally, you can see the fans sitting in position. Don't worry about the wires right now. They will all be sleeved and presented nicely. They will drop into the center of the cover behind each fan.
Well, I'm going back to work. I've got 6 big holes to make!
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
March 14, 2008
I've got a little more work done on the top panel, so I thought I'd get a few pictures up.
The first thing I had to do, was cut about 12mm off the top rear of the case. I needed this material removed to resolve a fan clearance issue. Who knew that six 120mm fans could take up so much room? ;-)
Next, I used one of my grill templates to mark out where all the holes needed to be.
A little time with a hole saw made quick work of the aluminum.
With the help of a little JB Weld, the two top pieces were joined together. Here you can see the top panel sitting on the case.
Here is another pic with the fans in place. Now I've got to get the missing strip in place, and tomorrow I can get it sanded, cleaned up, and get the wiring for the fans figured out.
Speaking of the wiring... I mentioned something about not needing to unhook wires when I removed the top of the case. Well, these little things are going to help me achieve that. I've got male and female spring contacts.
I'm off to bed for the night, but work will continue tomorrow!
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
March 18, 2008
Update time! I've been a busy guy, so I thought I'd share the fun with all of you. There's no sense in waiting, so I'll jump right in...
Last night I was too tired to dremel, but I still wanted to make progress. That left me with a few different things I could do to pass the time. I ended up choosing the one that seemed the most fun. So, enter the Via Epia Pico-ITX integrated motherboard... Just to recap the purpose of this board, it will be a dedicated download and storage box. It will reside inside the Rogue, and be networked both by wired and wireless. The 10.2" widescreen belongs to the Epia, and the whole thing will be controlled by a program called Synergy. This will allow full control of the box, without the need for a dedicated keyboard and mouse. The Epia system is something that can be left on at all times regardless of whether or not the Rogue is on. There's really not much sense in leaving the Rogue on to suck down power while I download stuff overnight...
So, let's get on with the pics. Some of these may look familiar, but for the sake of continuity, I am reposting them here. Putting the Via system together couldn't have been any easier. I only encountered one problem, which I will cover below.
The Epia will have 2 hard drives attached. There is a 40 GB laptop drive for the OS, and a 750 GB drive for storage.
In this picture, you can get an idea of how small a Pico-ITX board really is. It's not much bigger than a laptop drive.
It's getting 1 GB of memory...
And a 90 watt power supply...
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
March 18, 2008
Man, I love updates! Updates mean progress is being made. It's a little bittersweet though. I can see the end in sight, yet building is so much fun. I don't want it to end, yet I have other projects (home related) I need to work on.
With my last update, I was still making holes. With this one, I'm still making holes, although they'll be a little smaller in the end. To start here, I needed to finish the hole in the frame for the widescreen LCD. Luckily, there really wasn't that much cutting involved.
Now, here is a shot with the LCD's and gauges sitting in place.
Okay, now that's out of the way. So, what's next? Well, I need a fan controller. Not just any fan controller, I have a Zalman ZM-MFC1 Plus.
Okay, that's a fine controller you say, but where the heck am I going to put it? If you've been paying attention, space on the front of the case is at a premium. That doesn't mean I'm out of room though. In fact, far from it. However, it's not exactly a 'drop in' procedure. As with everything else so far, a lot of cutting and modding will make it fit.
Well, let's get on with it! Here you can see where the controller will sit.
That brushed aluminum face sure looks nice, but it's gotta go.
Here I've got the holes for the knobs marked out and ready to drill.
The holes have all been drilled, and the fan controller is test fit in place. Everything seems look good. You can see how the LED's in the fan controller will show though the hole in the case.
To be continued...
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
March 18, 2008
Tonight I got a little more work done on the top panel, in addition to playing with the Via system.
Here is the completed top. All the edges are filed and sanded clean. It's also got the holes drilled for the fan wires. It's almost ready for paint, but I've got a few more things I want to do first.
I want to keep everything neat and organized, and this little piece is going to help me do that.
A few minutes later, I pull this out of the metal brake.
A little dremel work.
Finally! This is a cover for the fan wires. All wires will be hidden and routed to the front through this.
More to come!
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Re: Project: Rogue (A little SFF insanity)
March 20, 2008
Another day, another update! I've got a few different things I've been working on, so I'll get right to it.
Of all the things I need to get done, I decided to work a little more on the motherboard tray. Since the laptop DVD drives are IDE, I thought I'd take a little time to work on hiding the IDE cable.
Here I've marked out the motherboard tray for the slot I need to make.
With the slot cut in the motherboard, I thought I'd work on getting those DVD drives covered up. So, I've marked out a piece of aluminum, and it's ready for cutting.
The piece is cut and ready for the brake.
The cover fits like a glove...