Horrible Temps in Apevia X-discovery. Help.

Update: I put in a better 120mm fan and manually set GPU fan to run 50%. CPU runs between 40-50c and GPU runs between 65-75c. Thanks guys!


I picked up a 2nd hand PC off a friend of mine, it originally was in an x-clio a380, and the case was severely beat up (and dirty). I decided to move it to a case that I actually liked and wasn't a full tower.

I've since moved everything over, but am having the same problems with temps that the x-clio was having. I installed the nvidia system monitor and it reads:

GPU Cooler: 38%
GPU Temp: 77c
MCP Temp: 78C

I can't seem to find just a plain "cpu temp", so I'm assuming the MCP is that. I opened up the case last night to make sure the fans were blowing in a decent direction (mix of in and out), and I noticed the air temp felt really warm. Right now I'm using the stock fans that came with the case (1x 80mm side intake, 1x 120mm rear exhaust). I have 1 more 80mm and another 120mm coming from new egg hoping to perhaps install a top blowhole with the 120mm and mount the 80mm up front to help with more intake (or on the other side intake slot).

After enough research I've noticed that the "optimum" (that most people want) is somewhere around 40-50c with any piece. The temps haven't shown any obvious effects on performance (the previous owner had the system for at least a year).

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated, but I would just like to point out that I hate "ghetto-rig" jobs and (unfortunately) I'm low on capital for major modification (sorry, no water cooling).

Thanks in advance.

p.s. I filled in what I could for PC specs in the profile, I don't know all the specs, but ask any question you feel the need to, I'll try to answer as best I can.

If I am not mistaken the nVidia tools only monitor the video card. Download "speedfan" and run it and post your temps. It will show you the cpu temp and lots of other info...

also you could post some pics of how the interior is set up as well. check to make sure he doesn't have it over clocked to the point of absurdity.

Ok, installed speedfan and what I have so far is:

GPU: 77c
Temp1: 42c
Temp2: 41c
CPU: -64c (that can't be right)
Internal Temp: 37c
Remove Temp: -64c (once again...can't be right)
core: 19c

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Originally Posted by kazhrei

Ok, installed speedfan and what I have so far is:

GPU: 77c
Temp1: 42c
Temp2: 41c
CPU: -64c (that can't be right)
Internal Temp: 37c
Remove Temp: -64c (once again...can't be right)
core: 19c

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Yeah on some motherboards a few of the temps look whaky.

I am pretty sure though that "core" is the number you are looking for. I will double check tonight when I am home or someone else can chime in...


Welcome to TBCS BTW!

what operating system are you using in it? do you know your processor? speed fan has some known glitches for certain processors.

System:

Win 7 32bit
ASUS M2n-SLI Deluxe board
AMD Athlon II X2 Dual Core 5000+
Geforce 8800 GT
Corsair 1gb DD2 (not sure of anything else on it)
I believe the CPU cooler is the stock one.

I have no OC'd a thing, I'm not comfortable enough to contemplate it.

Plus... I'd like to maybe get this heat thing under control.

Core is usually the CPU temp. If that's it, yours is really good.

Now I just need to figure out how to drop the GPU down from the 77c it's currently running... :smoker:

I'm going to probably buy a slot cooler in the near future.

Vantec

I wouldn't mind switching to water cooling in the future, just not sure if i have the space in the case (or my wallet) to pull it off.

i would the temp monitoring with this
http://download.cnet.com/Core-Temp-3...-10794077.html
sometimes a different view works better. otherwise you should look into a program called everest (its what i use) but some pics of your internals would be good too, to post pics i would use either photobucket or imageshack. in a pinch you can go into the bios and look at the temps in there too. That will eliminate any software based issues.

also, slot coolers dont really work that well. and they make alot of noise.

Well, the latest program reads: 47 and 42c (core 0 and 1 respectively).

I'll see what I can do for pics of the internals.

yep, and its normal for GPUs to run that hot. my 3870x2 @ idle, looking @ it right now, core 0 is 62ºC and core 1 is 50ºC. (core 0 is farthest from the fan, gets hot air from core 1 blown over it)

they get around 80~ish C for core 0 and 75~ish C for core 1 under load (playing MW2, 1280x1024, max settings)

Oh...well then I guess I shouldn't freak out so much about the GPU being 77c.

Thanks.

Speaking of other things though: I just got the 2 new fans from the UPS guy, time to slap em in and see if we get any difference.

I would also suggest two other free programs for temp monitoring: OCCT and Furmark. Both excellent. If you're still not happy with the GPU temps, this cooler is one of the best around as far as dollar to performance ratio, and it's passive. I used one on my 8800GT and was very happy with it. It's kind of big, so measure your space if you're thinking about it. Just a thought.

also look at this guy
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118222
dropped my load temps down to about 60 from 75 on my 9800, my friend jake got the same for his 8800 too... its dead silent compared to stock cooling

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Originally Posted by blueonblack

I would also suggest two other free programs for temp monitoring: OCCT and Furmark. Both excellent. If you're still not happy with the GPU temps, this cooler is one of the best around as far as dollar to performance ratio, and it's passive. I used one on my 8800GT and was very happy with it. It's kind of big, so measure your space if you're thinking about it. Just a thought.

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I have an apevia x-discovery for the case, it's pretty tight already, not sure if I could fit something that big.

yea, the zalman looks bug, but it should fit no problem, it"ll cover the the PCI below it, but nothing else.

I honestly don't plan on putting anything else in the slots below anyway. I'll eventually upgrade the system to better guts, but that's in the future.

i totally understand, im in the same process, ill be going from
2.8 AMD dual core
nvidia 9800 gt
4gb ddr2
320 gb hee

to

3.2 phenom 2x4
ati 5770
8gb ddr3 ram
2x250gb in raid 0
1x 750 gb data drive

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Originally Posted by diluzio91

i totally understand, im in the same process, ill be going from
2.8 AMD dual core
nvidia 9800 gt
4gb ddr2
320 gb hee

to

3.2 phenom 2x4
ati 5770
8gb ddr3 ram
2x250gb in raid 0
1x 750 gb data drive

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I plan on going to something like a 2.6-3.2 quad-core (amd), definitely staying with nvidia though. I had bad experiences with ATI cards. I also plan on throwing another 1tb drive in (or 2 500mb more than likely).

As for ram, I heard that 32 bit windows has a ram limit of 4gb? I ask about it because when I tried to run 64-bit on my current system it just wasn't stable (was getting 0x7f errors, tested ram and it's all good), when I switched to 32-bit, it was back to normal.

yeah, 32bit is limited to 4 gb... keep in mind that your video card memory limits this, eg, if you have 2 1gb gpu's and 4 gb of ram then it will show only 2 gb of system ram.

Yeah I had heard about that. Hopefully when I upgrade the guts to something am3 socket based, it'll not be so funky with 64-bit OS.

yeah... it might be a Mobo issue... i would google your board and the error message. but if you arent planning on getting the whole new rig.... there is a whooole nother option open to you... :twisted:

That evil face scares me....what kind of options are you thinking of?

lol.... well... pick out your new rigs parts... buy the stuff that fits in your current system, eg bigger hdds, bigger PSU ect, then when you have all the little stuff get the big stuff.. For ex, im going ot have the new case for my new rig built and modded. lol... im ocd with that stuff... i would rather buy a little at a time than get the whole thing at once... well... my budget thinks that way...

Upgrading for the most part could be that way, but the mobo is an am2 slot, so anything am3 COULD fit, but wouldn't do near as good. :P

Plus, it was a second-hand system. I wouldn't mind getting the parts I want and truly making it my own.

Once I become more confident with my electronics work I plan on switching all the leds out in the fans and such with purple ones (cause you can never find good purple led fans in the sizes you want), probably some purple CCFL's, etc...

I like the blue, but it's so overdone, green isn't a color I like, and red just doesn't work for me (too many of my friends' systems are red).

I'll probably throw a 120 mm blowhole on top of the case also if I don't go water cooling.