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    A British judge ruled on the eve of Al Gore co-winning the Nobel Peace Prize that students forced to watch "An Inconvenient Truth" must be warned of the film’s factual errors. But would there be any science at all left in Gore’s "truth" if these errors and their progeny were excised?

    Minutes of non-science filler dominate the opening sequence — images of the Gore farm, Earth from space, Gore giving his slideshow and the 2000 election controversy. Gore then links Hurricane Katrina with global warming. But the judge ruled that was erroneous, so the Katrina scenes would wind up on the cutting-room floor.

    Another 12 minutes of filler go by — images of Gore in his limo, more Earth photos, a Mark Twain quote, and Gore memories — until about the 16:30 minute mark, when, according to the judge, Al Gore erroneously links receding glaciers — specifically Mt. Kilimanjaro — with global warming.

    The Mt. Kilimanjaro error commences an almost 10-minute stretch of problematic footage, the bulk of which contains Gore’s presentation of the crucial issue in the global warming controversy — whether increasing levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide drive global temperatures higher. As the judge ruled that the Antarctic ice core data presented in the film "do not establish what Mr. Gore asserts," this inconvenient untruth also needs to go. [Note to readers: A video debate between Al Gore and climatologists on this point produced by me can be viewed by clicking here.]

    After still more filler footage about Winston Churchill, the 2000 election, and rising insurance claims from natural disasters, Gore spends about 35 seconds on how the drying of Lake Chad is due to global warming. The judge ruled that this claim wasn’t supported by the scientific evidence.

    More filler leads to a 30-second clip about how global warming is causing polar bears to drown because they have to swim greater distances to find sea ice on which to rest. The judge ruled however, that the polar bears in question had actually drowned because of a particularly violent storm.

    On the heels of that error, Gore launches into a 3-minute "explanation" of how global warming will shut down the Gulf Stream and send Europe into an ice age. The judge ruled that this was an impossibility.

    Two minutes of ominous footage — casting Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush, and Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) in a creepy light and expressing Gore’s frustration with getting his alarmist message out — precede a more-than-9-minute stretch that would need to be cut.

    In this lengthy footage, Gore again tries to link global warming with discrete events including coral reef bleaching, the melting of Greenland, catastrophic sea level rise, Antarctic melting and more. But like Hurricane Katrina, these events also shouldn’t be linked with global warming.

    Based on the judge’s ruling, the footage that ought to be excised adds up to about 25 minutes or so out of the 98-minute film. What’s left is largely Gore personal drama and cinematic fluff that has nothing to do with the science of climate change.

    It should also be pointed out that Gore makes other notable factual misstatements in the film that don’t help his or his film’s credibility.

    He says in the film that polio has been "cured," implying that we can cure "global warming." While a preventative polio vaccine does exist, there is no "cure" for polio.

    Gore attempts to smear his critics by likening them to the tobacco industry. In spotlighting a magazine advertisement proclaiming that "more doctors smoke Camel than any other brand," he states that the ad was published after the Surgeon General’s 1964 report on smoking and lung cancer. But the ad is actually from 1947 — 17 years before the report.

    Gore also says in the film that 2005 is the hottest year on record. But NASA data actually show that 1934 was the hottest year on record in the U.S. — 2005 is not even in the top 10.

    Perhaps worse than the film’s errors is their origin. The BBC reported that Gore knew the film presented incorrect information but took no corrective steps because he didn’t want to spotlight any uncertainties in the scientific data that may fuel opponents of global warming alarmism.

    "An Inconvenient Truth" grossed about $50 million at the box office and millions more in DVD and book sales. Gore charges as much as $175,000 for an in-person presentation of his slide show that forms the basis for the film.

    Considering that a key 25 percent of "An Inconvenient Truth" is not true — and perhaps intentionally so — it seems only fair that Gore offer a refund to moviegoers, DVD/book purchasers and speaking sponsors. Where are the class action lawyers when you need them?
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    I demand a refund for watching transformers- evil alien robots, as well as good alien robots cannot come here and fight on here planet.

    The human race has recently found that it is a fictional production made to look real with computer graphics and "acting".

    My lawyer and many other lawyers are in the process of bringing lawsuits against Dreamworks, Paramount and Hasbro pictures for cheating and lying to the american public and myself about said events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quakken View Post
    I demand a refund for watching transformers- evil alien robots, as well as good alien robots cannot come here and fight on here planet.

    The human race has recently found that it is a fictional production made to look real with computer graphics and "acting".

    My lawyer and many other lawyers are in the process of bringing lawsuits against Dreamworks, Paramount and Hasbro pictures for cheating and lying to the american public and myself about said events.
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    I had to watch that crap... ugh. But we have to kill Manbearpig and I'm being serial and nobody will believe me and I'm being serial. *Sad look on his face*

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    But making anyone watch something on a controversial subject, and make them choose it is real shouldn't happen.

    Unless it's the matrix. If they made us watch that in school, I would believe it on the basis that it's so full of asskickery.
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    The fact that Al Gore got ANY recognition for this is freakin' insane. He did not go out to the locations he talked about and gathered the research. He merely found and compiled it. Hell, I could do that. And with a few hundred thousand, I could make a movie that dispenses "facts" in between clips of me in a car or plane or something talking about my life. What he did was not hard, what he did was not legit, and what he did sure as **** does not warrant nearly as much recognition as it got.



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    While I'd never argue with the fact that Gore doesn't have much credibility as a scientist, I would keep one thing in mind. Just because a court ruled that the film was misleading, doesn't mean that everything in it was false. A legal fact is an entirely different beast from a scientific fact. If I walk into a courtroom and motion that the moon is made of green cheese and no one successfully argues that I'm wrong then it becomes a legal fact that the moon is made of green cheese. I haven't seen more than clips from the movie and I don't know anything about who testified in the trial, but I would hesitate to jump to any conclusions about the outcome.

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    this is always a sour subject, I think i saw it somewhere, that 1)In the last 200 yers we can produced 2% of the so called gasses that cause global warming.
    2) the eartch started heating up before the indestrual revolution, before green house gasses were being produced

    3) 1/3 of said gasses are produced by the likes of farm animals (Cows and the such) and other creatures such as plancton.

    4)The world goes round in cycles of heating up and cooling down, i beleve we are due a cooling down period soon

    4) (My personal theory) If these green house gasses are soo dence that there trapping heat in by bouncing it back down, why dosen't it bounce it away from the earth before it passes through it

    as said in another thread, there is evidence for GW, and some against it. neither side can prove it 100%

    Im not saying we didn't cause global warming, acctualy i am, we didn't cause it, we just speeded it up a little bit. But look at then Mount St Helens exploded, the earths temp dropped quite a bit.

    Plus there is always something to moan about, once we get over the whole "Were all going to die unless we do this that and the other" drama, some sicentist or goverment body (For taxing) will come up with another disaster sitting round the corner to kill us all


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    That is the idea- we are speeding it up. But, there are far too many factors to call any idea true. Without the ability to make an accurate model (there are too many variables) its impossible to say that if we release enough we could cause a
    type of nuclear winter, because they start to reflect the sun.

    But that al gore movie was just a bunch of hype and hubbub, that anyone with some video editing software and several pounds of stock footage could piece together. Every thing in it has a possible opposite also, and well founded evidence against and for it.

    I still want my refund for watching transformers. Or maybe just a bluray player and it in HD, then i would be happy.
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    4) (My personal theory) If these green house gasses are soo dence that there trapping heat in by bouncing it back down, why dosen't it bounce it away from the earth before it passes through it

    as said in another thread, there is evidence for GW, and some against it. neither side can prove it 100%
    The reason is that the atmospheric carbon dioxide is able to blanket or block (more like an insulator) for thermal energy in the form of heat. Light can pass through the CO2 with no effect. So light passes in, strikes the surface of the earth and is converted to heat, which cannot dissipate back through the C)2 blanket. It's why your car gets so hot in the summer when the windows are rolled up. The windows behave axactly like the greenhouse gases in that light enters the car, warms the dash board and such, then the heat cannot escape.

    And you are right, there is lots of evidence of gloabl warming and the theories behind it are sound, but proof will only come with time if it is a fact.

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