Originally Posted by
Luke122
I think they kept the 8gb model just to get that lower price point. When you consider the wifi and the added functionality features, like Remote, etc, the 8gb touch is a pretty killer device.
Agree that its a killer device and I love mine to death (probably why I'm a bit upset about all this), but then why is the Zune HD 16GB only $220 while the Touch 8GB is $200? Aside from Apps, isn't the Zune HD technically better and offers more features? HD Radio, nVidia Tegra... it does have a slightly smaller screen I suppose, but I doubt that plays a real difference in price.
http://www.iphonespies.com/apple-news/ipod-review/zune-hd-vs-ipod-touch-2g/
I can understand why they dropped the 16. For me, the 8gb is plenty of capacity, since I dont watch video on my ipod. If I did, 16gb wouldnt be worth the price, and I would have gone straight to the 32gb anyways. Now that the 64gb is out, that's really for people who live through their ipod.
The 16GB should be around $200, the current price of the new 8GB. If Zune HD could do it, then why can't Apple? Zune HD is basically brand new while the Touch has been around for quite awhile so you would think that the Touch would be the better deal... I just can't see any real reason why they would drop the 16GB and keep the 8GB, other than to maximize profits at the expense of their consumers.
The touch was always just a portal device for me anyways, I rarely stored much on it (when I had one) and mostly used it for surfing, streaming, and remote functionality. I agree that they should have added more of the functionality of the Nano into the Touch, but I think you nailed it.. who would buy the iphone if the touch could do all the same stuff (and run VOIP)?
Well, people who would want to seriously make calls. VOIP isn't a very good replacement at all and it only works when you have WiFi. I still think this is their reasoning, but I think its foolish. I don't think they have anything to really worry about. There are enough desirable features on the iPhone to get the iPhone and its even pretty cheap to buy. Its those monthly plans that are the problem. Maybe they are just waiting to really revamp the Touch once the AT&T contract ends? I really hope so... although there will probably be better devices out by that time. Hell, if the Zune HD got Apps, that would be a better device now. They should of added the extra features, now that the market is catching up, they're going to be just like any other device aside from the well developed app store (which they won't be able to boast about for too much longer with the way that technology advances). A camera and a radio would have kept them on top for quite a bit longer, but they pretty much blew that chance. They better pray the ZHD doesn't get an app store... or jailbroken for that matter.
I think the reason we dont see big capacity on the iphone is the potential for theft (more to lose), the possibility of running up huge data charges (downloading stuff. "I've got space, I'll get that"), etc. I dont think the iphone has wifi either does it?
Yea the iPhone has WiFi. But most people are just kind of like, whats the point? Except when they want/need unlimited downloading.
I think they are just waiting for next year to realease the large capacity iPhones. Earlier this year was practically nothing, but that makes sense. Major upgrades every two years coincide with the two year contracts. Probably another reason why the Touch didn't get a whole lot of real features, they're probably waiting for next year since it SHOULD be a big year. We'll see I guess.
I'm sure that will be the next big announcement from Apple anyways.. camera on the touch! No more 8gb touch! 8gb shuffle!
I'd laugh so hard if the Shuffle got a camera. "How do I use this thing!? It have no buttons or even a screen!" lol
They'll tell you that you have to connect the Shuffle with a camera to a standalone camera to get it working. You know, just to make it that much more useless. lol
I can still see a huge market for the shuffle and the nano, so I doubt very much they'll go away. Yes, there are other options out there, but I had my hands on a Sansa clip yesterday, and I'd still take the Nano over it. The shuffle? Probably not.. I dont really like the control scheme and the lack of a screen. YMMV.
I'd take a Nano over a Sansa Clip any day too. lol That's not even a fair comparison. :p
I bought my friend a Nano (which he then bought an iPhone a month later lol) for Christmas last year. They're pretty nice. I don't see them going away anytime soon, but sometime clear down the road I don't think they'll be as big or maybe even still around. The Touch is very pocket-able and does much much more than the Nano. The Nano is really only good for playing music. I just can't see the desirability lasting much longer with all these new pocket-able PMP's coming out all the time. That's probably why they added in the camera and radio this year...
I think they're too expensive right now though. The camera is nice but basically useless on the Nano, the Radio is definitely a nice added feature. But $150 for 8GB? I just don't know about that... $119 would be a better price point. It'll probably drop to that here shortly though.
Even the Ipod classic still has a relevant market. I have a friend with a 120gb model, and its FULL. He's got his whole library on it.. even though I'm sure he never listens to some of his stuff. The classic is really for the storage freaks.. no doubt about it. How long until we see a 250gb classic? Or an SSD based one? Probably not long.
Oh yea, I totally agree here. That's why I said it was a smart move on Apple's part. 120GB for basically the same price of their 8GB Touch (or 16GB Zune HD) is an awesome deal if you don't need or want the features of a Touch. I could easily fill up a couple Classics. lol