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    Default Re: Watercooling pump question

    as far as i know there are only 2 setups that do 4 way sli. 2 of the GTX295's or 4 of the GTX 285's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by x88x
    I'm not sure I'm allowed to do that...they get real weird about non-US-citizens (which are plentiful on the internets ).
    You, sir, have piqued my curiosity...


    I've seen the mobo's with endless amounts of x16 slots, but I'm not entirely sure the manufacturer designed the product because they thought someone might need 7 graphics cards...It's my assumption that they never even expected all of them to be populated by something as taxing as a graphics card. I would further assume it would function properly but performance would probably be sub-par. I can't even imagine the workout that x58 chip would enjoy.
    It seems like there shouldn't be nearly enough lanes to run all those cards...wikipedia says the x58 supports 36 lanes. I read a little about that board from various (read: unreliable) sources which say it can support 4 cards at x16...hmmm... They also say that regardless of what the other slots are running at, the last slot is always x16...if so the remaining six still wouldn't be able to hit x4. It must be magic. I would think that 4 cards would run at x8 and the rest would be running at a pitiful x1. You might want to email EVGA to make sure 7 graphics cards will work in it before committing to this project.

    While absorbing information at EVGA's site I found a list of cases that that beast will fit into. Most other cases will require extensive modding to make it work. I normally wouldn't consider that a limitation, but you said you didn't want to do much modding since it's for work.
    I'll procrastinate tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mDust View Post
    It must be magic.
    Heheh, almost. What they did was they added another NB in order to get more PCIe lanes. Dell has a few of their Precision workstations that have a similar setup, though only with 4 x16 slots instead of 7

    Quote Originally Posted by mDust View Post
    You might want to email EVGA to make sure 7 graphics cards will work in it before committing to this project.
    Yeah, I'll definitely be doing that if we get the go-ahead to build it...make sure that it'll actually work before we drop 8 grand on the thing

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    Seven graphics cards most likely won't.

    There's an NF200 chip that splits the lanes on each of those cards. HOWEVER, there are already two NF200 chips on that board that split the existing lanes. There was a guy that tried it with 9800GX2s and could not get anything to talk. His was with six.

    Also, remember crosstalk latency. That SLI connector does some of the negotiations required to team those cards up. I know you're not running SLi, but even in CUDA apps it's used to exchange. After a while, I'd imagine its loss would be an issue-especially in a heavily CPU-bound area like an enthusiast board with a single socket. Make sure to get a Gainestown if you do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x88x
    ...they added another NB in order to get more PCIe lanes.
    That's just sneaky... I figured they probably did something extreme on the board (other than 7 PCI-E slots ) but I couldn't find anything technical about it. Even if this thing gets toned down a wee-bit, it's still going to be a beast.

    Also, I was pondering the flow through the water blocks:

    I realized that in the parallel setup that was suggested (A) might not work well with 7 water blocks. The flow will be highest in the blocks closest to the inlet and outlet but there's nothing really forcing the water through the blocks that are furthest. I modified it (B) so that all the blocks will have decent flow. The water moving past the bottom blocks will draw water through them, so no blocks will have 'sitting' water. I also figured, since you're considering multiple pumps, I'd modify a series setup (C) to make it work. What I drew up assumes at least 2 pumps and if more are used, the blocks may be split up such as 2-2-3 instead of 4-3. Basically, there is a pump > cards in series > rad > 2nd pump > cards in series > rad...etc.
    I'll procrastinate tomorrow.

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    Thanks. I think B would probably be the best option. I would love to something like C, but I seriously doubt the angle connectors would fit between the cards.

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    i like B. for something on this scale i think it will come down to testing, no one has done such a test, that i know of.
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    I'm voting for C, it's what I did for my dual 3870X2's
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