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    Quote Originally Posted by dr.walrus View Post
    Basically, no. You're using the term malware incorrectly.

    Malware is a 'catch-all' term used to describe all forms of malicious software. A virus is malware, A trojan is malware. A worm is malware. The original post keeps drawing a distinction between 'malware' and 'viruses'. This isn't correct.
    The OP was using the term 'malware' to refer to a type of executable that is malware. It's used broadly but not incorrectly. I'm sure people that read this will figure that out and it won't be a big deal.

    I have no viruses or malware on either of my computers...wth are people clicking on to have 787 infected files? Geez! I had a roommate years ago that had an old computer with over 5000 infected files...I recommended he wore a bio-hazard suit when formatting that sucker.
    I'll procrastinate tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mDust View Post
    It's used broadly but not incorrectly.
    No, it's used totally incorrectly. Viruses are described by the OP as independent of malware, and malware is used as a term to describe a specific type. The guide describes a pretty solid method of removing a particular type of rootkit infection (albeit a common problem being that this type of infection is the type that can't be dealt with using the standard technique of 'install/run *** anti-virus software'.

    Why not use a simpler method - remove the hard drive and put it as a slave in a secondary system. Run an antivirus with good detection rates on it (I favour Kaspersky, and bulk licenses cost almost nothing), because the concealment techniques the executables use won't work if you're not booting from the infected drive. Much quicker, albeit with a bigger chance of registry or system file degradation, but if the computer is rescuable you should just be able to repair the OS install. For best results, scan it using several different types of detection software.

    Quote Originally Posted by mDust View Post
    wth are people clicking on to have 787 infected files
    In my experience, in order of probability
    1) Young men who haven't discovered streaming porn sites
    2) P2P file sharing, mainly illegal software
    3) Those links that say 'ZOMG YR COMPUTER IS INFECTED' (I paraphrase)
    4) Unfiltered spam emails

    My antivirus scans every executable and every email, checks every hyperlink in my web browser and is set to automatically block and quarantine. Five Kaspersky licenses cost 10 off eBay, and it has the best rootkit detection rate (active and inactive) in the industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr.walrus View Post
    No, it's used totally incorrectly. Viruses are described by the OP as independent of malware, and malware is used as a term to describe a specific type.
    He never defined either term. The only way I would have it changed is to refer to "viruses and 'other' malware". There is other malware that are not rootkits that antivirus programs don't find...so I'm not sure what the issue is here.
    Quote Originally Posted by dr.walrus View Post
    In my experience, in order of probability
    1) Young men who haven't discovered streaming porn sites
    2) P2P file sharing, mainly illegal software
    3) Those links that say 'ZOMG YR COMPUTER IS INFECTED' (I paraphrase)
    4) Unfiltered spam emails
    I guess that's why I don't get any viruses...I don't do any of those things.
    I have noticed that even legit software nowadays tries to install browser toolbars, change your homepage, monitors your web activity, installs additional unwanted programs which usually mess with Windows defaults, and random other shady things. It used to be you could just keep clicking 'next' through any installation process and not worry about a thing...now it's much wiser to read what's going on. What 'ware' is between malware and legit software?
    I'll procrastinate tomorrow.

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    I'm not going to argue this any more, but I'll leave this to speak for itself:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatSatan View Post
    Malware isn't detected by spyware programs or your anti-virus. It sneaks in and disables your Anti-Virus. It then creates a virus building center and pumps out viruses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mDust View Post
    What 'ware' is between malware and legit software?
    Bloatware. Ever seen a fresh install from a major vendor? All that **** that you don't need and is guaranteed to slow your system to a crawl. Take AOL for example: hijacks nearly everything related to TCP/IP, and is an utter bitch to remove.

    I've got an article that I started back in January regarding different types of attacks (DDOS, scareware, fake AV suites, worms, trojans and the like) along with a condensed history of virii in the computer sense. Perhaps I will dust off what I have so far and finish it up.

    Now, as far as this whole malware argument...I have to side with dr. walrus. From Wikipedia:

    Malware, short for malicious software, is software designed to infiltrate a computer system without the owner's informed consent.
    And from the same article, two sentences later:

    The term "computer virus" is sometimes used as a catch-all phrase to include all types of malware, including true viruses.
    I would also add to this that if you follow this (or any other guide on here), TBCS will not be held responsible for any damages caused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drum Thumper View Post
    I've got an article that I started back in January regarding different types of attacks (DDOS, scareware, fake AV suites, worms, trojans and the like) along with a condensed history of virii in the computer sense. Perhaps I will dust off what I have so far and finish it up.
    I could have done with that with my malware research project last year! Though I don't think my tutor would be mad keen on the reference (TheBestCaseScenario, 2010)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr.walrus View Post
    I could have done with that with my malware research project last year! Though I don't think my tutor would be mad keen on the reference (TheBestCaseScenario, 2010)
    This paper would not have been peer edited, so your prof might have had a bit of an issue there. However, I was/am planning on putting all my references at the end, APA style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drum Thumper View Post
    This paper would not have been peer edited, so your prof might have had a bit of an issue there. However, I was/am planning on putting all my references at the end, APA style.
    Well, with this type of reference, peer review isn't an issue if the source is just reporting, you mean your work constitutes original research?

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    What a lively discussion!
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    In the pic above I used my biggest hit count with Malwarebytes of 787, I just worked on a computer that had 790!!
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