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    Default Re: motherboard replacement- DV6000

    Dil what kinda rads do you have?
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    Default Re: motherboard replacement- DV6000

    ^^ Ditto

    Build option 1:
    Res/Pump- XSPC X20 200 (G1/4) (12v 3pin) ($49)
    http://www.xoxide.com/x2o-200-pumpres.html

    RAD- Swiftech MCR120 Quiet Power 120mm Radiator (G1/4) ($35)
    http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-mcr12...-radiator.html

    CPU- Koolance GPU-220 (G1/4) Chipset Water Block ($65)
    http://www.xoxide.com/koolance-gpu-220.html

    GPU- Koolance CHC-125 (G1/4) Chipset Water Block ($45)
    http://www.xoxide.com/koolance-chc-125.html

    Barbs- XSPC G1/4" to 3/8" barb fitting ($2ea x
    http://www.xoxide.com/g1-4-to-3-8bfit.html

    Tube- PrimoFlex Pro LRT 3/8in ID 5/8in OD UV Blue Tubing ($2 ft x2)
    http://www.xoxide.com/primoflex-38id-58od-uvblue.html

    Fill Port- Danger Den Fillport - Blue (G1/4) ($14)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21...c101s460#blank

    Drain Port- Danger Den Fillport - Black (G1/4) ($14)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21...tl=g30c101s460

    T-Fitting for Drain Port- Primochill 3/8" UV Reactive Leakproof T Fitting - UV Blue ($2)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/74...tl=g30c499s745

    TOTAL- $260


    Build option 2:
    RES- MCRES Micro Rev2 Reservoir (G1/4) ($26)
    http://www.swiftech.com/mcresmicrorev2reservoir.aspx

    PUMP- Swiftech MCP355 3/8in Water Pump ($75)
    http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-mcp355-pump.html

    RAD- Swiftech MCR120 Quiet Power 120mm Radiator (G1/4) ($35)
    http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-mcr12...-radiator.html

    CPU- Koolance GPU-220 Chipset Water Block (G1/4) ($65)
    http://www.xoxide.com/koolance-gpu-220.html

    GPU- Koolance CHC-125 Chipset Water Block (G1/4) ($45)
    http://www.xoxide.com/koolance-chc-125.html

    Barbs- XSPC G1/4" to 3/8" barb fitting ($2ea x
    http://www.xoxide.com/g1-4-to-3-8bfit.html

    Tube- PrimoFlex Pro LRT 3/8in ID 5/8in OD UV Blue Tubing ($2 ft x2)
    http://www.xoxide.com/primoflex-38id-58od-uvblue.html

    Fill Port- Danger Den Fillport - Blue (G1/4) ($14)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21...c101s460#blank

    Drain Port- Danger Den Fillport - Black (G1/4) ($14)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21...tl=g30c101s460

    T-Fitting for Drain Port- Primochill 3/8" UV Reactive Leakproof T Fitting - UV Blue ($2)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/74...tl=g30c499s745

    TOTAL- $281

    Either option = OUCH!

    If I can get used parts that work.. that would be sweet.

    The other thing though is, all of this is going to be WAY overkill. The CPU is ~33W and the GPU is ~11W. The Koolance CHC-125 is "rated" upto 175W per website and the Koolance GPU-220 "rated" upto 200W per a search. haha, I am a little bit under that.


    What about running a dual 40mm or 80mm radiator?
    Magicool Extreme Slim Profile 2X40mm Radiator- http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=22275 ($30 on sale for $20)

    HW Labs Black Ice GTX M160 - Dual 80 millimeter Radiator- http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=26364 ($50)

    Single 92mm?
    Magicool Extreme 1X92mm Radiator- http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=22274 ($40)

    I think this would save a lot of space and still perform well within spec. Plus, with say the dual 40's, I could save a bit of money if bought on sale (savings of ~$20) Or am I just crazy?

    Oh and the quick disconnects. They are pricier then I thought.
    Female- Koolance QDC (High Flow) No-Spill Shutoff Nozzle, Female Barb (10mm, 3/8") (VL3N-F10B) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11...tml?tl=g30c405 ($14 x 2)

    Male- Koolance QDC (High Flow) No-Spill Shutoff Nozzle, Male Barb (10mm, 3/8") (VL3N-M10B) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11...l=g30c405s1026 ($12 x 2)

    Threaded quick disconnects (1 connected to each block)
    Female- Koolance QDC (High Flow) No-Spill Shutoff Nozzle, Female Threaded (VL3N-FG) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10...tml?tl=g30c405 ($13 x2)

    Lots of info. Going to stop here. Since this doesn't included the other misc hardware needed and fluids.. I don't think this would be an immediate build unless I can talk the wife into an early bday gift. lol


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    Default Re: motherboard replacement- DV6000

    Fluid is easy, just a silver coil and some distilled, since you probably won't be seeing much of it

    The disconnects are expensive, and tend to kill flow quite hard, but since its not like you need the high flow badly, I think your loop would survive, and it would be definitely nice to be able to disconnect the cooling pad for travel.

    As for rad, I would think the 80 or 40.2 would be just fine for what you need

    Res- I think going with the Swiftech micro res would still be a good idea, because it has 4 ports so you could just lead one to a fill/drain port instead of using a t-line, or even just leave it on the edge of the pad to access directly

    It looks like you picked out your blocks already

    Only thing i would suggest is maybe finding a different pump? The mcp355 would work, but I'm sure you could find a smaller one that uses less power, maybe check out that other guide to see the pump he used? I think he ended up powering it by USB too, so that would be great

    EDIT: Is it bad that I'm so into this topic? lol

    EDIT 2: Man I need to think of everything before posting, edits suck I forgot to mention, I posted in one of TGS's threads (the AMD bulldozer one) I may have some of that neon green butt ugly tubing from the bigwater kits, I never actually used it, I think it was around 7-8m of it, 3/8" size. I may or may not still have it, but if you're interested in it lemme know and I can send it your way instead of letting it collect dust
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    AHAH! I checked that water cooled laptop thread..then went to his website, and found that it was a bad link to his pump :/ so I looked at the pic..and saw a company name on a manual behind it...google magic later reveals: http://www.kidwind.org/xcart/product...&cat=79&page=1

    It would take a little modding to get it working right, but that's why you're on this site right? Also, $10 is a bit more affordable than $75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldersan View Post
    Fluid is easy, just a silver coil and some distilled, since you probably won't be seeing much of it

    The disconnects are expensive, and tend to kill flow quite hard, but since its not like you need the high flow badly, I think your loop would survive, and it would be definitely nice to be able to disconnect the cooling pad for travel.

    As for rad, I would think the 80 or 40.2 would be just fine for what you need

    Res- I think going with the Swiftech micro res would still be a good idea, because it has 4 ports so you could just lead one to a fill/drain port instead of using a t-line, or even just leave it on the edge of the pad to access directly

    It looks like you picked out your blocks already

    Only thing i would suggest is maybe finding a different pump? The mcp355 would work, but I'm sure you could find a smaller one that uses less power, maybe check out that other guide to see the pump he used? I think he ended up powering it by USB too, so that would be great

    EDIT: Is it bad that I'm so into this topic? lol

    EDIT 2: Man I need to think of everything before posting, edits suck I forgot to mention, I posted in one of TGS's threads (the AMD bulldozer one) I may have some of that neon green butt ugly tubing from the bigwater kits, I never actually used it, I think it was around 7-8m of it, 3/8" size. I may or may not still have it, but if you're interested in it lemme know and I can send it your way instead of letting it collect dust
    I agree. I think the disconnects would be quite beneficial. I would just need a way to protect them on the bottom of the laptop from catching on stuff. I think that would be a minor setback to the many good reasons for having them.

    Cool. I was hoping the small rads would be good. I know they cost about the same, but like the disconnects, I think the pros out weigh the cons. Space savings being the biggest pro.

    With the res.. and you talking about not being able to see much. I was looking at some external mounted ones like the Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 80 Inline Reservoir (BP-WTZM80P-BK). It is small and could be mounted externally possibly. The current spec pad is for a 17" laptop, mine is a 15.4" so there is potentially enough room for mounting on top of pad next to laptop.


    The blocks I picked can be replaced if something with similar mounting is found. I picked them for their adjustable mounting points being that these chips do not have a standard layout.

    I am going to look at other pump options. Being that the tube "min" is 1.4" ID I would still need it to effectively push through everything. The dual 40's premounted barbs are 3/8" OD..

    Any suggestion on a smaller but effective pump for running 3/8" plumbing? The build log doesn't show what kind of pump, just uses 2-6vdc and 1/4" plumbing. I'll have to take a look at some other rads to see if I can use a 1/4" barb on the 40's or 80's.

    I think its awesome your are into it. I need the help. lol

    Any help with any of the parts is appreciated. I was going to go blue, but not partial to it if I can maybe save some money. Besides, if this thing works out, I don't think anyone is going to care about the hose color. lol

    Thanks for all the help.
    Outlaw


    EDIT::: I need to type/search faster lol. Awesome catch. I didn't even notice the book behind the pump. lol. I just worry if the pump would be effective pushing through my loop. I agree 10 dollars is way better then 75. lol Also for pumps, I was thinking of looking at the in home fountains that just sit on a table. Only prob is I don't know if they are AC or have a converter/transformer in them for DC.

    Off to look at 1/4" barbed rads..


    EDIT 2:::
    Found a,
    dual 40mm for $22 bucks but it says good fit for hoses with 5/16" (8mm)
    single 80mm for $40 bucks with customizable fittings. I could get the 1/4 for this one.
    dual 80mm for $40 bucks with customizable fittings. I could get the 1/4 for this one

    Using 1/4" plumbing, I think (please correct if wrong) I would be able to use a smaller pump like the Kidwind one and still have it efficient because it would increase the pressure and raising flow slightly.

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    Lol exactly. For the quick disconnects, I was thinking putting rubber grommets around the holes in the cooling pad, so that its not metal on metal and would prevent a lot of scratching. Another possibility would be to put some rubber feet on the laptop to keep it from sliding on the cooling pad, or make the holes for the quick disconnects a little wider than they need to be so nothing gets wrecked if they get nudged. Another possibility would to have some pegs or something stick up from the cooling pad and fit into holes in the bottom of the laptop to keep it from moving while its on it. As for protecting them, im assuming you mean when the pad is disconnected? You could probably make up a false "base" for the laptop, maybe a giant foam pad with cutouts for the nozzles?



    The smallest pumps I found were actually the mcp355 and phobya's dc12-220 (http://goo.gl/jZZIc).

    Since you're looking at that bitspower res, I think it would look awesome mounted at an angle off the back of the cooling pad, possibly as a backrest for the LCD on the laptop? Then you could show your fluid off, maybe get blue fluid if you really wanted blue?

    About the rad, you mistyped, its 3/8" ID not OD as for 3/8", the mcp355 is made for that, and the phobya has generic G1/4 threads so you could easily just throw some on there

    I feel like a kid in a candy store when i think about all the possibilities for this mod lol

    Np, count on more help if I can give any
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    I could definitely do the grommets for the pad to protect the edges from rubbing on the hoses. And, yes I was concerned more when the hoses are disconnected as the barbs would be pointed straight down about 1.5" give or take.

    If the laptop/pad combo is like the one we have now with our other laptop, I don't think sliding around will be an issue BUT with it being LC, better safe then sorry.

    I like that with the mount of the res. I would probably just use some elbows to do a 90 directly into the base. The res would allow for easy fill, and I could do something in the base for draining. Or figure out a way to make a "flush system" like the ones for cars and coolant flushes.

    I would use green if able to use your supplied hoses. The blue was going to be an attempt to get the wife to at least like it when finished. lol Plus the blue matches most of the leds on the laptop. (pwr and quick play buttons are all blue).

    Sorry bout the rad info. It wont work if I go 1/4" anyways, lol

    With the pumps, its almost worth the 10 bucks just to try it on the loop, but if it didn't work, I would be using one of the $40+ pumps. With the higher rated 12v pumps, could I have a switch that runs them at 5v or 12v or would that just wreck the pump? I only ask because some give power ranges where some give 1 set voltage.

    Thanks again.
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    For the pump, I'm not sure. It honestly depends on the pump, and how it likes to run at lower voltages. Some just won't run under a certain voltage, say 8v or so. Others wont run at all unless at 12v, I really dunno. Some pumps also have speed controls, but I'm not sure about those two.

    Another thing I just thought of (silly me) is power. I'm not quite sure how you'd manage to get it to run off the laptop's power (plus it'd prolly drain the battery really fast) but if you're cool with wired, im sure you could use a typical power adapter (e.g. http://goo.gl/UQq7m just a quick google search for reference) and pop the end off and wire up a molex connecter for the pump, maybe an off-on-5v switch somewhere in the middle? you'd have to ask someone with more electrical experience than me lol.

    To make your wife happy: if you're going to use fittings straight into the base, you could probably use blue fluid if its only going to be visible in the res, and just use the green tubing inside the pad

    Speaking of res, you could simply use the same port for fill/drain, just tilt the whole thing on its side bit more hassle, but slightly cheaper

    Honestly, I think that the res mounted on the top/back end of the cooling pad, at an angle for the lcd to rest on it comfortably, with the 40.2/80mm res below it, fan(s) facing out the back, would be kind of a cool look pop a few LED's all over the place and call it good!
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    Done and good! lol

    Just repricing everything for 1/4".. who knew the barbs and tubing is more expensive then the 3/8 or larger. Guess it's not in too much of a demand.

    Well, after a long search. I think I got everything.

    Blocks:::
    CPU- Koolance GPU-220 Chipset Water Block (G1/4) ($65)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10...?tl=g30c89s147

    GPU- Koolance CHC-122 Chipset Water Block (G1/4) ($45)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/72...?tl=g30c89s147


    Barbs:::
    Block Barbs 1- Danger Den G 1/4" High Flow Thread Barb - 1/4" ID ($3 x2)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/64...l=g30c407s1028

    Block Barbs 2- Koolance QDC (Extreme Flow) No-Spill, Female Threaded G 1/4 (VL2N-FG) ($12 x2)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12...l=g30c405s1341

    Koolance QDC (Extreme Flow) No-Spill, Male Panel Barb (6mm, 1/4")(VL2N-M06B-P) ($11 x2)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12...l=g30c405s1341

    Res Barbs- Koolance G1/4 Swivel 90 Angled Barb w/ Clamp (6mm / 1/4" ID) - Single - (NZL-L06B) ($6 x2)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/95...l=g30c407s1028


    Plumbing and Accessories:::

    Tube- Tygon R-3603 1/4" ID (3/8" OD) - Laboratory Tubing ($2ft x2)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/22...?tl=g30c99s170

    Drain Port- Danger Den Fillport - Blue ($14)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21...tl=g30c101s460

    T-Fitting for Drain Port- 1/4" ID UV Reactive Leakproof T Fitting ($3)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/22...tl=g30c499s745

    Reducer- FrozenCPU 3/8" to 1/4" UV Reactive Leakproof Reducer ($2 x2)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/22...tl=g30c427s459


    Pump:::
    Pump- KidWind ultra small low voltage pump 1/4" ($10)
    http://www.kidwind.org/xcart/product.php?productid=24


    Radiator:::
    RAD- MagiCool Mini II Dual 40mm Radiator (3/8") ($22)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11...c95s1311#blank

    FAN- Sunon MagLev-Vapo 40mm x 20mm Fan w/ TAC Sensor Wire - Bare Wire (HA40201V4-0000-C99) ($17 x2)
    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/93...6c15s560#blank




    I guess I will put the KidWind pump as the pump for now. Better to spend 10 bucks and have it not work, then 70 and have it blow the lines, lol

    For power. There is no portability. lol The battery is dead and last I checked (years ago), it only held power long enough to shut down after unplugging ac. Right now, the current power supply for the laptop only is 90W.

    I could get one larger psu or 2 separate ones. If 2, I could make a 'plug' in the side of the pad to supply both psu's and to just have one ac plug used.

    The making the wife happy part is she likes blue. I think the blue would look cool too. Since you said you had 3/8" hose. I put some clear Tygon hose on the list now. If you have green 1/4", bonus. lol

    I left the 40x2 rad for price and just figure I could get some 1/4 - 3/8 adapter for that.

    With the res, I think I would still do a drain port with a T just for convenience. Plus I don't want to risk having the res drip on the pad when draining. Filling, I would use the res and prob just a small funnel if necessary.


    I could do some blue (if sticking with that theme) led's behind the fan/res to illuminate that. I think it would give a cool effect, then maybe like you said, some placed throughout the pad.

    And I came across a LC laptop build where the integrated a temp readout into the laptop. If this worked, I think I would do that too. lol Never hurts to know the temp.


    Thanks,
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    Default Re: motherboard replacement- DV6000

    Couple things come to mind:

    I'm a bit confused as to how you'd get just one set of quick disconnects would work for both blocks If you wanna make a quick paint sketch or something to clarify that'd be cool

    That drain port is for bigger tubing, check the danger den website lol. you may be better off with something like this, it also eliminates your need for a T http://goo.gl/AyJIp

    Next, I'm not quite sure of your work area/tool situation, but you could probably save quite a bit on tubing/reducers if you simply cut off the pre-existing barbs and tapped it with G1/4 threads. I'm sure someone on these forums could easily help you out with that

    For power wise, if you can get decent flow with that tiny pump, remember how guy before just wired it up to usb? that would eliminate your need for a second psu If it doesn't, theres gotta be some way you could (either off the laptop or the psu) splice a molex connecter in there somewhere

    And yeah, that temp lcd would be cool
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