fan help

[crenn]

Ok, here is another design:

Base:
Case/PSU
Antec LifeStyle SONATA II, Piano Black (Includes a 450W SmatPower 2.0 PSU, also includes a 120mm case fan) $104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129155
HDD
Seagate 250GB 8MB Cache 7200.10 (SATAII) $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148142
DVD Burner
Pioneer 111D (Black) $35.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827129001
Operating System
Windows XP Pro w/ SP2 OEM $137.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16837102062
Additional
Sunbeam Front Panel $25.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811998811
Logitech Cordless DesktopS 510 $57.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823126180

AMD System (Skt939)
Motherboard
Asus A8N-VM CSM $78.99 (Has on board GeForce 6150)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131570
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ $147.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103531
RAM
Crucial Technology Ballistix 1GB (2 x 512MB) $95.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148007

AMD System (Skt AM2)
CPU
AMD Athlon64 3800+ $145.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103631
Motherboard
Asus M2NPV-VM (Has on board GeForce 6150) $84.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131014
RAM
OCZ Gold 1GB (2 x 512MB) DDR2-800 $112.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227126

Intel System (Skt 775)
CPU
Intel Pentium 4 511 Prescott 533MHz FSB 1MB L2 Cache $105.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116013
Motherboard
Asus P5LD2-VM $108.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131545
RAM
OCZ Gold 1GB (2 x 512MB) DDR2-800 $112.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227126

AMD (Skt 939) System $765.91
AMD (Skt AM2) System $786.91 (Is new technology, hence the slightly higher price)
Intel (Skt 775) System $770.91

This is the best I could come up with, it will do what you want it to do, and it will have decent cooling already. And all systems allow you to upgrade later on if needed.

[rusty shackleford]

i got a build thats intel more stuff just under $800 and since im going to use a tv rather than a monitor more than likely i have a video card with tv out but very much like yours ill list changes and cheaper prices

Hard Drive
Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6V250F0 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $79.99 item

DVD/CD Burner/Player
NEC ND3550A 16x8x16x DVD+RW, 16x6x16x DVD-RW, 8x DVD+R DL, 6x DVD-R DL, 48x32x48x CD-RW, Black, Dual Layer, Retail Box DVD Burner with Software $29.99 item

Floppy Drive
1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive (Black) $7.95 item

Fan
SUNON KD1212PTB1-6A 120mm 2 Ball Case Cooling Fan - OEM $8.99 item

Graphics Card
Radeon X550 128MB 16x PCI Express Video Card w/TV-Out, DVI $48.50 item

Fan
Link Depot Corp. FAN-9025-S 92mm Sleeve Case Cooling Fan - Retail $2.99 item

Exhaust (PCI)
AOC FC-2002-B Ball Bearing System Blowers - Retail $9.99 item

Keyboard and Mouse
Adesso RF Wireless Key board Optical Mouse Combo $21.99 item

Processor
Intel Pentium 4 630 Prescott 800MHz FSB 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 EM64T Processor - OEM $146.61 item

Memory
pqi 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) System Memory - Retail $64.99 item


racking up at $799.95+tax+shipping ill have $600 of it tomorrow and then ill prolly be able to bum money from my mom and 2 month max ill have $720 so i think shell lend me $80 and pick up tax and shipping

[RenovoCS]

Ok I was reading through everything and do you have someone else kinda helping you along on some of this stuff or are you just kinda finding what looks cool? Before your last post I was going to suggest checking out tigerdirect.com, with their rebates you get some really good deals

[crenn]

Final Design:
Base:
Case/PSU
Antec LifeStyle SONATA II, Piano Black (Includes a 450W SmartPower 2.0 PSU, also includes a 120mm case fan) $104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129155
HDD
Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6V250F0 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144013
DVD Burner
Pioneer 111D (Black) $35.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827129001
Operating System
Windows XP Pro w/ SP2 OEM $137.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16837102062
Additional
Sunbeam Front Panel $25.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811998811
Keyboard/Mouse
Logitech Cordless DesktopS 510 $57.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823126180
Floppy Drive
1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive (Black) $7.95
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?inv...D-321B&cat=RDM
Motherboard
Asus P5LD2-VM $108.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131545
CPU
Intel Pentium 4 630 $146.61
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16819116198R
RAM
pqi 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) System Memory $64.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820141187
Gfx Card
Radeon X550 128MB 16x PCI Express Video Card w/TV-Out, DVI $48.50
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?inv...0L-C3H&cat=VCD

Total Price$819.98 (Not including P&P)

If you drop the Sunbeam Front Panel, it will be under $800

Price with Sunbeam $793.99

[simon275]

The sunbeam front panel is kinda pointless unless he really wants all that stuff. Also xp home is cheaper I never saw any point in getting XP pro unless you really want to tool around and do remote desktop connection. It's only $87.99 ($88 )

The extra $76 could be spent on a better graphics card or maybe just leave it the way it is and save $76

[rusty shackleford]

i work with windows the file system and most things of that nature primarily and the extra tools xp pro has to offer are a benefit to me

[Nagoshi]

Okay two more things... No, three more.

First, if you really intend to go with Intel, the best overclocking processor you could buy is the Pentium D 805 (http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...CP1-PD-805%20C) which is basically rated at 133FSB*20 for a 2.66GHz base speed. You can overclock it to more than 4GHz with lots of work.

With the stock cooling you can get it to 166MHz FSB = 3.33GHz on stock voltage. For better stability, increase the memory frequency to the maximum which should be DDR-533. Getting from 133FSB to 166FSB will unlock new memory frequencies which you will be able to use to increase system stability. The temps will be a little hot, so I could recommend you a new CPU heatsink (if you can get the best Zalman around it would be just fine). After that you can get that beauty to 3.60GHz (180FSB) always on the stock voltage. And since the FSB will be upped, your memory will work faster which will result into a nice general performance gain. If you wanna go to 4GHz, if you are using the best Zalman heatsink then the temps will play around 70C while loaded so I strongly recommend you a Watercooling setup. No need for a mroe than $200 setup, something really basic can do it (I believe Thermaltake has one really cheap). Up the voltage to 1.5625V in the bios and you push the FSB to 200MHz! 20multi*200MHz FSB = 4GHz

The best boards around for this processors are :
Asus P5WD2-E Premium
Asus P5WD2-WS Premium
Asus P5WD2 Premium
Gigabyte G1975X Turbo
Gigabyte 8I955X Royal

Note that you will need a PSU of AT LEAST 500W since the CPU will take around 150W by itself at 4GHz.

Complete guide : http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/..._41_ghz_cores/

Second, I really dont recommend using your computer on a TV. The quality just sucks. I still recommend you having one computer screen hooked up all the time, i ncase you have problems with your TV display.

Third, note that Lexan, plexi, acrylic, etc, are all the same kind of plastic. Lexan is not basically bulletproof, whoever told you that is wrong. Lexan tend to heat and can bend at very high temps, and I still recommend you to buy a plexi case. It seems like you're young and have no experience in cutting palstic and plexi, it would be more dangerous and worthless than buying one.

[rusty shackleford]

ok nagoshi i dont have the money to do that my family has an old old from before 2000 15" crt monitor that i can use just in case or get one from my friend for cheap or if my dad decides to get a new computer this one second im not going to overclock a processor like that because i dont have $200 for water cooling so im going 3.0Ghz and maybe overclocking that eventually aalso i can afford a $200 board and i dont need a 500W psu since im not going to overclock to 4.1Ghz lastly i have plenty experience workin with metal and plastic al you guys or most have the necessity of a dremely or some sort of cutting tool ive done plenty work with both metal and plexi and i did it old school and long amounts of sweat and blood and maybe not pc case thick lexan but at higher thicknesses it is basically bulletproof i already chose a good case ive got my $610 will have to save longer about 2 months so im gunna have done plenty of homework and will know my stuff and most of my computer knowledge has been gained in the past month and ive been absorbing it like a sponge and the building part im like mcgyver i made a fan out of a bottle cap a 9V a rc engine and a pretzel jar and a rocket out of pen parts im adhd so im always thinking if im gunna mod or build something i need no help outside of the computer parts like psu mobo and proc ok but i wanted to ask some people who knew what they were talking about on reccomendations since im on a budget

[Nagoshi]

Okie but dont tell I will have told you.

I still recommend having at least 500W of power for your computer, even if youre not going to overclock it all the way up, if you plan on having leds, cathodes, and accessories... just think that by itself the D805 processor, when not overclocked, takes 85W of power. Plus your mobo, HDDs, CD drives, and everything else that will be in it, you woull get up easily at 400+ watts. And dont think about getting a cheap no-brand PSU, unless you wanna buy a new computer in a year. Go with a brand, such as Thermaltake, Antec or many more computer brands, sparkle, enermax, etc.

You will have to waste quite a huge amount of time in that plexi/lexan case if you really want to build it, you will need to drill all the measurements for your board screw holes, your PCI slots, the PSU hole, the drives cage (dont think for your current comp, youll need at least 3 5.25'' bays and 3 3.5'' bays, and this is a bare minimum), all the holes for your buttons, leds, fans, etc, this is going to be alot of work. Its okay if you want to spend all your summer on that case instead of working, its not my trouble.

And you can overclock the D805 processor to 3.33GHz on the stock heatsink. Its going to run a bit hot, but if you have a good cooling in your case (front and rear fans) its going to be just fine. Note that the D805 is a dual-core, and dual cores are 64-bit.

[crenn]

Nagoshi, I helped him with this computer, you can be sure it will run. If you read the final design, it has an Antec Sonata II, with a 450W Antec SmartPower. I think that should be enough for him, including him overclocking.

Also, his budget doesn't allow for a D805.