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08-03-2008, 11:05 AM

Sponsored by:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/AquaComputerLogo.png (http://www.aqua-computer.de/)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercoollogo.jpg (http://www.watercool.de/aktuell/)

MIPS Computer GMBH
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-mipslogo.jpg (http://www.mips-computer.de/)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/CorsairLogo-Horizontal-RGB.jpg (http://corsair.com/default.aspx)

This is my first real desktop mod, and it's been long in planning. Now that most of my components have arrived and some progress has been made I've decided to share what I've created so far.

The concept behind this case is to design a simple elegant case jam packed with technology, toys, and a powerful watercooling setup.

The idea for the design was directly inspired by the case I started with, a 10th Anniversary Lian-Li PC-a60c: *click for big*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-stockcase1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-stockcase1.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-stockcase2.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-stockcase2.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-stockcase3.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-stockcase3.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-10thanniversaryplaque.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-10thanniversaryplaque.jpg)

First I'll outline the system components I'll be using:

Main System
Lian-Li PC-A60C 10th Anniversary #294 of 300 (http://www.xoxide.com/lian-li-pc-a60c.html)
Silverstone Strider 1200W Modular ATX (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=28822&vpn=SST-ST1200%20&manufacture=Silverstone%20Technology)
AMD Phenom X4 9850 BE Quad Core AM2 2.5GHZ (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29153&vpn=HD985ZXAGHBOX&manufacture=AMD)
Corsair Dominator PC2-8500 5-5-5-15 8GB (4x2GB) (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=31395&vpn=TWIN2X4096-8500C5D&manufacture=CORSAIR)
ASUS AM2+ M3N-HT Deluxe Mempipe 3-way SLI (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29806&vpn=M3N-HT%20DELUXE%2FMEMPIPE&manufacture=ASUS)
2x EVGA E-geForce GTX 280 SSC 648MHZ 1024MB 2.322GHZ (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30562&vpn=01G-P3-1284-AR&manufacture=eVGA)

Secondary System
VIA ARTiGO Kit A1000 C7 1GHZ 1GB DDR2 (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29070&vpn=A1000&manufacture=VIA%20TECHNOLOGIES%20INC.)
OCZ 1GB DDR2 SODIMM PC2 PC-5400 667Mhz (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19340&vpn=OCZ26671024VSO&manufacture=OCZ%20Technology)
Fujitsu 2.5" IDE 5400RPM 120GB (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=21828&vpn=MHV2120AH&manufacture=Fujitsu)
XDX 7" VGA Touch Screen TFT LCD 1024x768 (http://cgi.ebay.ca/Headrest-7-VGA-AV-PC-Touch-Screen-XGA-TFT-LCD-Monitor_W0QQitemZ130233993143QQihZ003QQcategoryZ29 501QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZ p1638Q2em118Q2el1247)

PCEngines ALIX.2C1 Kit 3x10/100LAN (http://www.xagyl.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=10&products_id=184&osCsid=4772a31932817ac93717a26a98285f5b)
SparkLAN WMIA-207GN WLAN 802.11n Mini PCI (http://www.oxfordtec.com/us/p138/SparkLAN-WMIA-207GN-WLAN-802.11n-draft-wifi-Mini-PCI-Module(Atheros-AR5008-3NX-AR5416-XSPAN-chipset)-Wireless-miniPCI-card/product_info.html)
1GB Type 6 Compact Flash (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=13641&vpn=CF%2F1GB&manufacture=Kingston)

Pioneer Slim 8X DVD+/-RW Slot Load (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=666610200&vpn=DVR-K06&manufacture=Pioneer)
Slim CD/DVD-ROM to SATA Adapter (http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170232180299&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=007)
4x Hitachi 3.5" SATA 7200RPM 750GB (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=333315479&vpn=0A35771&manufacture=HITACHI%20GLOBAL)
3x LaCie Neil Poulton eSATA 7200RPM 750GB External (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30869&vpn=301314U&manufacture=Lacie)
Lian-Li Aluminum 50-in-1 Card Reader (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1728/dri-41/Lian-Li_Brushed_Aluminum_50-in-1_Card_Reader_CR-33B_-_BLACK.html)

Mini Nova USB Bluetooth Adapter (http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00417&dept_id=015&cat_id=036)
Zalman Plus Multi Fan Controller (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6136/bus-109/Zalman_ZM-MFC1_Plus_Multi_Fan_Controller_-_Black.html)
Matrix Orbital GX Typhoon USB TRI-LED LCD 240x64 (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7114/lcd-58/Matrix_Orbital_GX_Typhoon_MCE_USB_LCD_Black_Bay_De vice_w_Remote_-_Tri_Color_Display_GX_Typhoon_MCE-TC-BBI.html)
2xNexxtech mini 4 Port USB Hub (http://www.thesource.ca/estore/Product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=USB_Hubs&product=2616552&MSCSProfile=287001FD2674671CC1C6E1B8FD422E08189A68 40DC7FAC3D810D12A5BEC4F9DDC8C84165DB83580FB0710380 D2F35F2A088F9E66027B4806D1D787B75DDD851EBB17F05B70 004001B4E35E0225A581A195C32406B4FE42354279683236B0 D3AE7AECC79B3C9758310089B6C1ACA55948B9993612990453 3026E9BC9F11850F9E7079F799D595AE5F)
AquaComputer multiswitch USB 1.41 (http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shop-index.htm?http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shopsystem/product_info.php?products_id=1866&osCsid=ec5f5f74f307bd4941a8d39ec20ab1bf)
AquaComputer aquaero 4.00 USB (http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shop-index.htm?http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shopsystem/product_info.php?products_id=1866&osCsid=ec5f5f74f307bd4941a8d39ec20ab1bf)

Air Cooling
6xScythe Ultra Kaze 120mm x 25mm 133.60CFM (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6441/fan-378/Scythe_Ultra_Kaze_120_x_38mm_Fan_-_3000_RPM_DFS123812H-3000.html)
1xScythe Kama-Flex 80mm x 25mm 34.0CFM (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7083/fan-421/Scythe_KAMA-FLEX_80mm_x_25mm_Fan_-_2500_RPM_w_S-FDB_Bearing_SA0825FDB12SM.html)
9xScythe Mini Kaze Ultra 40mm x 20mm 4.86CFM (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6438/fan-375/Scythe_Mini_Kaze_Ultra_40mm_x_20mm_Silent_Mini_Fan _SY124020L.html)

Aqua Computer Aquastream XT Ultra USB Eheim 12 V (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6582/ex-pmp-58/Aqua_Computer_Aquastream_XT_Ultra_USB_Eheim_12_Vol t_Liquid_Cooling_Pump_w_Aquasuite_Software.html)
Feser XChanger Triple 120mm Xtreme (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7224/ex-rad-131/Feser_X-Changer_Triple_120mm_Xtreme_Performance_Radiator_-_Thermochill_Killers.html)
D-TEK FuZion V2 Socket AM2 Waterblock (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7600/ex-blc-491/D-TEK_FuZion_v2_Universal_CPU_Water_Block_-_AMD_and_Intel.html)
D-TEK FuZion v2 Quad Core Mid Chamber Insert (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7602/ex-blc-493/D-TEK_FuZion_v2_Quad_Core_Mid_Chamber_Insert_-_FuZion_v2_.html)
Mips Ram Freezer 4 Ram Waterblock Nickel Edition (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25341&vpn=MCH1245&manufacture=MIPS)
2xAquaComputer G200 waterblock for GX280 (http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shop-index.htm?http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shopsystem/product_info.php?products_id=1866&osCsid=ec5f5f74f307bd4941a8d39ec20ab1bf)
AquaComputer Durchflusssensor (Flow Sensor) (http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shop-index.htm?http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shopsystem/product_info.php?products_id=1866&osCsid=ec5f5f74f307bd4941a8d39ec20ab1bf)
6xAquaComputer Rotary elbow adapter G1/4]AquaComputer aquaero/aquastream XT temperature sensor 70 cm (http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shop-index.htm?http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/shopsystem/product_info.php?products_id=1866&osCsid=ec5f5f74f307bd4941a8d39ec20ab1bf)
Danger Den Cooling System Fillport Black (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19714)
Primochill Primoflex Pro LRT Black 1/2IN ID 3/4IN OD Tubing (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7687/ex-tub-320/PrimoChill_PrimoFlex_PRO_LRT_Tubing_12ID_34OD_with _18_Wall_-_Black.html)
20x Bitspower G1/4 High Flow 1/2IN Dark Nickel Plated Barb Fittings (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7612/ex-tub-315/Bitspower_Black_Sparkle_G14_Barb_Fitting_-_12_ID.html)

Here is a rough concept of the design plans: *click for big*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-concept.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-concept.jpg)

I'm sorry I diddn't take any progess pics so-far but I'll be doing so from here on out.

Hello All-

As many of you know, last year, Jesse was forced to place this project, as well as many others, on hold while he was called to head overseas to consult for work. While overseas, Jesse fell ill of e. coli poisoning. Unfortunately, Jesse Lang passed away before he was able to resume his project, leaving millions of people on the forums wondering “where has Jesse gone?”. I was contacted by his lawyer, who notified me of his death and informed me that Jesse had specified that I take over his project and complete his creation.

My name is Tobias, I, like Jesse, am a Canadian modder that has always had a passion tweaking computers, I am not a stranger to basking in the glow of computer monitors, even as a child. That’s why, when presented with the opportunity, I was very excited to take part in the development of PROMETHEUSCU. Jesse was a technologist, and it became evident very soon after I met him that he had a gift. A gift for taking something mundane, something you would not even look twice at, and reinventing it in a way that would blow any person’s mind. I was fortunate enough to get to know him, and later became his apprentice in the User Experience Design world. He introduced me to the idea being to align my interests, technology and creativity, into a possible career path. Jesse was, and will forever be a huge influence in my life. It would truly be the least I could do to fulfil his request and rebuild PROMETHEUSCU in his honor. Unfortunately, over the past two years in storage, various parts of PROMETHEUSCU have been either lost or pulled for other projects. It is my intention to fulfil Jesse’s wish of completing PROMETHEUSCU by building upon the remnants of the case and original design plans.

I wish to humbly request that you, the community, would follow me in my quest to honour Jesse's memory through the completion of one of his last great works.

If anyone has any questions or concerns please feel free to contact me via PM.

Best regards,


08-03-2008, 11:05 AM
Now onto part pictures: *click for big*
AMD Phenom 9850 BE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-cpu.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cpu.jpg)
Asus M3N-HT
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-mobo1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-mobo1.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-mobo2.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-mobo2.jpg)
SilverStone Strider St1200 1200Watt
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-psu1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-psu1.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-psu3.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-psu3.jpg)
Corsair Dominator RAM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-ram1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-ram1.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-ram2.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-ram2.jpg)
The 120mm Fans
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-fans1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-fans1.jpg)
The MO TyphoonGX tri-colour
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-mo-typhoon1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-mo-typhoon1.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-mo-typhoon2.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-mo-typhoon2.jpg)

08-03-2008, 11:05 AM
After a few hours with the dremel and jigsaw... then many more with a set of hand files I turned my lian-li case into the below:

The details:
First I cut out some material from the drive bay area

I then mounted the Alix 2c1 embedded linux firewall after installing the mini-PCI wifi-n card and the 1GB compact flash
A cutout was made to allow space for the lan ports on the motherboard tray. Also a box was cut from the drive bay to allow for the pump to be mounted.
I haven't yet built the pieces that will guide the airflow; but i have installed the fans that will cool the Alix board.
1/4inch slots will be milled on the panel and dividers will be constructed to guide the air out the slots. Until then, this is how it stands.
Here is the Pump
And the mounting bracket put into place

Two 120mm fan holes were cut from the top of the case

A large rectangle was removed from the front panel to make space for the 7" touch panel LCD

08-03-2008, 11:06 AM
I then built another temporary bracket to hold the PSU in place. This too will be replaced with a CNC machined bracket.

After cutting a piece of copper plate that will 'compression' fit into place. I used double sided foam tape to afix the slot load dvd-rw.
I then installed the slim-DVD to SATA adapter.

The drive is then squished into place, and holds suprisingly well

Then the pump is mounted to the bracket, this foam is also temporary and will be replaced with black neoprene

We then come to the Pico-ITX unit that will live in the drive bay

Here is is installed

I then cut apart the Corsair Dominator fan assembly and made some temporary mounting brackets, the final brackets will be CNCd as well.

The zalman fan controller that I'll be using

Here is the fan contoller installed

The final fan assembly and some glamour shots

I also got a Lian-Li card reader, it will be stripped of its case by the end of this mod

08-03-2008, 11:06 AM
Here is the radiator I'll be using:
The cutout I made, where it will live. I still have to make mounting brackets for it.

This is where the hard drive bay will mount

But first these need to be installed. Again these are only temporary, for fitting purposes, the final peices will be made from copper plate and will be CNC machined.

Now we can suspend the drive cage

And finally we come to the below images. This is how Project PrometheusCU sits right now, waiting on delivery of some of my watercooling components.

As it stands I'm at about 30% complete.

Hope you all enjoy the work... I've poured pretty much everything I have into this case - in terms of both skillsets and money.

Please feel free to leave comments, crits, suggestions.

Tune in soon for more!

08-03-2008, 11:06 AM
Let us begin.

I've finished the rad mount prototype.

I started with a 40"x40"x1/8" sheet of used aluminum.
This panel was once used in the fabrication of Carbon Fiber sheets - the aluminum panel are used to help form the carbon panel. The carbon is cooked in a heated press at ~40,000tonnes. After a short while, about 100 carbon panels, the aluminum develops imperfections and heat stains - It's then thrown away. My Dad runs the Carbon Fiber plant so over the years I have developed a rather large collection of these aluminum sheets.

After a bit of rough cutting with the trusty jigsaw I did some light filing to clean the cuts.

Then onto bending

The final product, minus the holes.

Once that was complete I checked the fit - luckily the "measure 5-times cut once" methodology continues to work for me.

A side view, note also that the final bends will be much more precise. I plan on having 'V' shaped groves milled into the copper plate where bends are needed to ensure accuracy.

Then I had to drill precise holes in the the chassis.

From there I did a test fit. (Note that the final design will include slots for airflow, I'll post an illustration later today.)
Almost perfect, I eyeballed the holes in the rad mount prototype and a couple were off slightly. No big loss though because the final product will be machined precisely.

Thanks for reading! More to come.

08-03-2008, 11:06 AM
Another update for you guys, but there will be more to come this weekend.

I've finished the tray prototype that will both house the radiator, and lift Prometheus 3.5" off the ground.

We again start with some aluminum plate. As you can see I've marked out the areas to be cut.

Like the above post, I've put the jigsaw to work.

After using the dremel to crudely score the bending lines I put the piece in my bending brake.
This is what I came up with

A close-up of the joints.

Then a test. Perfect Fit!

And here is how it sits right now.
In fabricating these parts I've realized that the final design will need to seat the radiator about 1/4" lower. As you can see from the pics, I haven't left enough room for the front rad fan to breathe.
But that's why I made these prototypes... to narrow in on design flaws such as that.

That's all the fabricating I'll be doing today, tune in later I'll have some illustrations posted.

Thanks for reading!

08-03-2008, 11:07 AM
A small update for the masses.
Here is an idea of what a couple of the copper components will look like.
From left to right - Front Facade Panel, Top Exhaust Fan Grill, Radiator Grill/Mount. I'll post the designs for the rest of the pieced some time tomorrow; along with some of the illustrations that I'm going to have engraved throughout the case.

black = cut
grey = engrave
dashed = bend
*click for supersize*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-schematicr3-low.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-schematicr3.png)
Added a a 'jagged edge' to the front facade. Since the touch panel LCD covers the traditional front air intake I will need to mill slots in the side of the front panel to act as air intake. The jagged edge will make space for these intake slots. The slots can be seen in the initial design concept illustration (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-concept.jpg)

Thanks for reading! Tune in soon for more.

As always, crits are welcome and appreciated.

08-03-2008, 11:08 AM
Small update

Black lines = cut
Grey lines = engraved
Dashed lines = bend

Here is my concept for the plaque replacement on the back of the chassis

I've also completed the concept for the drive bay enclosure (the piece seen taped into place in this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-part1-2.jpg) image).

I modified the original design (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cncpaneldesign.jpg) to encase the lower 3.5" drive bays, and allow for a fill point (nearly forgot about that).
*click for supersize*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-bayenclosureconcept-low.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-bayenclosureconcept.png)

08-03-2008, 11:08 AM
welcome to the forums langer!

i have been watching you silently on BT and i really enjoy this mod so far, good luck with it

08-03-2008, 11:08 AM
Here is the accumulation of all the final part concepts that I'm going to be milling from Copper plate.
(as always, click for supersize)

1: Drive Bay Enclosure - Left Side
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-bayenclosurelconcept-low.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-bayenclosurelconcept.png)

2: Drive Bay Enclosure - Right Side
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-bayenclosurerconcept-low.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-bayenclosurerconcept.png)

3: Authenticity Plaque

4: Front Facade
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-frontfacadeconcept-low.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-frontfacadeconcept.png)

5: Bottom Tray/Radiator Housing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-lowertrayconcept-low.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-lowertrayconcept.png)

6: Parts List Plaque

7: Radiator Fan Grill/Mount
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-radgrillconcept-low.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-radgrillconcept.png)

8: Top Fan Grill
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-topgrillconcept-low.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-topgrillconcept.png)

9: Front Lower Tray/LCD housing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-frontlowertrayconcept-lo.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-frontlowertrayconcept.png)


08-03-2008, 11:08 AM
A small text update:
I've ordered a number of small aesthetic copper bits off eBay - everything from copper ribbon wire to fishing rod parts. I may have gotten a bit carried away because I've started bidding on a 1987 Buick Grand National, we'll see if I win tomorrow afternoon.

I've also ordered 100x5000mcd White LEDs and 100xLED chrome holders/mounts.
With those comes the need to convert the chrome mounts to copper, so I got my hands on a case of 6x8oz cans of Krylon Premium Metallic Copper Brilliance (http://www.krylon.com/products/premium_metallic/) spray paint - it too has yet to arrive but I've read that it looks just like copper plating.

This weekend I also spent a few hours in Rhino, modifying my CAD drawings to incorporate some of the revisions suggested to me by the machinist. Hopefully I'll have some precision aluminum prototypes cut this week.

I expect delivery #2 of 4 of my watercooling parts tomorrow, along with the GTX 280ssc cards - upgrade compliments of eVGA.
The AquaComputer components will be sent out to me Monday (hopefully).

I'm in the middle of correspondence with an Indian manufacturer of Copper Braided Sleeving (http://sreelalguru.com/braided_sleeves) for the tubes and wires. I hope I've finally found a supplier in the form of Sree Lal Guru Industries, despite their reluctance to provide such a small quantity.
If anyone knows of a NorthAmerican source for "Bare Copper Braided Sleeving" willing to sell small quantities, please link me.

The last remaining unordered component will be the MIPs 4 RAM Cooler.

I can see light at the end of the tunnel now.

I'm on the lookout for a several LED controllers that will support 100 LEDs, something that will allow me to create a custom light show in and on Prometheus... if anyone knows of a source for such a product please let me know... it's proving -like so many of the parts for this project- very elusive.

Tune in soon, and Thanks for reading.

08-03-2008, 11:09 AM
I forgot to ask:

Anyone know where I can get my hands on the Lian-Li copper PSU (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/computex-day-1-cooling,1618-7.html) to match this case?

08-03-2008, 11:09 AM
Parts update for the masses:
I recieved a package of watercooling supplies today.
First up - a D-Tek Fuzion rev 2 with quad core nozel insert (insert not installed in below images).

FeserOne Orange non-conductive coolant, I'd have preferred black but since I'll be using black tubing and no reservoir I don't see the difference... and neither will anyone else, hehehe.

20x Bitspower Hig Flow 1/2 barbs - dark nickel plated edition.
Here you can see the difference between the Bitspower fittings and the stock DangerDen and D-Tek ones.

A Black DangerDen Fillport

Last but most certainly not least... 15' of Opaque Black Primochill Primoflex 1/2ID tubing.
I was quite surprised by the width of the wall, I guess I don't have to worry about puncture leaks... too much.

That's all for now folks, tune in soon!

08-03-2008, 11:09 AM
Yet another update for you all, I got a package in the mail form eVGA today. My -free- upgrade from the 9800GTXssc cards.

To go with this will be two of these:
Only they wont be shipping for another 10-days.

08-03-2008, 11:11 AM
Clearly nothing is sacred:

Naked GTX280's, and I must say that I have a new appreciation for nVidia engineering... the heatsink on these babies was nothing short of a work of art - engineering at it's best.

They are considerably lighter now only about 245grams

08-03-2008, 11:12 AM
A small teaser for you all. I took delivery of my secret weapon today:

Don't bother asking where, some of, this will be used... that's a surprise.

08-03-2008, 11:12 AM
A small, bummer, update:
UPS just delivered my Acrylic Copper Colour 2-way Mirror... but I'm totally pissed! The colour is all wrong. It's more of a 'burnt copper' instead of the 'red copper' colour I'm using. I may still find a use for it, but it's 'mystery purpose' will likely be replaced with carbon fiber pieces. (You can't see though the acrylic here because I've not yet removed it's protective backing).

08-03-2008, 11:12 AM
Some great news.

A User by the name of xtreme0915 over at the nVidia SLi-Zone forums has volunteered to donate his old Aquagate Viva Duo (http://www.coolermaster.com/products/product.php?act=detail&id=141) Watercooling kit for the benefit or Prometheus. With this comes a cemented decision to watercool the Pico-ITX unit as well as the main system. I'll be purchasing a 40.2 radiator (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=336&products_id=22275), and using the Aquagate's waterblock/pump to cool the Pico board.

Another big thanks shout-out goes out to xtreme0915!

08-03-2008, 11:13 AM
In anticipation of this new generous, unprovoked, donation. I've started making the necessary modifications to the Pico-ITX heatsink.
Modifications that will allow me to mount the waterblock/pump from the Aquagave Viva unit to the Pico-ITX board.

This is Part-1 and it is still unacceptably rough. when its finished the edges will be square and it'll sport a mirror shine.

Here is what I started with:

Then after a couple hours of Dremel grinding followed by hand filing I came up with this:

Here you can see the amount of material that needed to be removed, because Via had a recessed spot in the middle of the three screw holes where the fan sat. So I had to bring down the whole surface to be flush.

08-03-2008, 11:13 AM
Some more great news!

I've been honored with a nomination for the "Mod Of The Month (http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2008/07/30/motm-july-08/1)" competition over at the Bit-tech.net forums! So if it's your prerogative and you have the means - throw me a vote.

Exciting news from AquaComputer... in the form of some one-of-a-kind PrometheusCU special edition parts.

I just want to take a moment to thank everyone again, it's amazing to see how well the community has accepted this project. It started as a passion and has BOOMED into something so much more - sponsors, MOTM nomination, ~430,000 image views. All I can say is WOW.

The excitement has just begun, I still have many plans for this project so stay tuned for more.

08-03-2008, 11:16 AM
@b4i7 - Thanks mate!

Since I'm new here I figure I should take a moment to tell a little about myself.
Me name is Jesse Lang, I'm a 20-year old Film School Grad, and a graphic designer/motionographer by trade.

I saved my pennies for over a year in anticipation of this project. So-far I've put well over 500hours into it's design and construction. With those hours comes the HEAFTY price tag of about $8400 so-far...well above my initial budget. Because of this I'm pretty much teetering on the brink of poverty - but with a smile on my face over what it'll become in the end.

In the end the case will sport many custom CNC machined solid copper components.

A custom watercooling system provided in part by AquaComputer.

3 Computers in 1 case:
1- The watercooled main system running Windows Server 2008
2- The watercooled Pico-ITX system running Windows Home Server with a custom built front end GUI. This will control the watercooling of the main system and also function as a media jukebox.
3- The embedded Alix 2c1 Linux firewall/router running pfSense. This will act as a wifi card/router/firewall.

And an elaborate lighting system featuring about 100 White LED's and a custom built lighting controller.

I'm putting every ounce of my skillets and cash into this project so I hope you all enjoy!

Tune in soon for there is A LOT more to come.

08-03-2008, 02:54 PM
this projekt actually looks quite good. when i saw the presentation of it on bit-tech it didnt seem like something special but i like the many hours of planning you have thrown in it:)

BUT a big mistake that i noticed from the start (dont know if you know this already) is that your fans is blowing air downwards instead of pulling air into the case.
you will have a better airflow if making them pull into the case

08-03-2008, 05:43 PM
Very nice work! Welcome to TBCS, I love your mod so far and will be watching with great interest!

08-03-2008, 06:26 PM
Ah, you finally landed here. Welcome to the best modding community ever!

08-03-2008, 11:52 PM
@Acey - Thanks for the welcome man!

@jdbnsn - Thanks mate, you shouldn't have to wait too long.

@p0Pe - Thanks man but the fan direction is known - they just look meaner that way while under construction in my opinion. In addition to the advice offered to me on the Bit-Tech and [h] forum, I also have a former Boeing Aerospace Engineer (family friend) and expert on aerodynamics helping me design my air-flow guides to maximize airflow/performance.

Another small update for you all.

I just picked up a dozen BlinkM I2C contolled RGB LEDs (http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8579) - "BlinkM uses a high quality, high power RGB LED and a small AVR microcontroller to allow a user to digitally control an RGB LED over a simple I2C interface"

100 white 3mm LEDs, 100 resistors and 100 Chrome Holders to be copper plated.

and with these comes a USB Arduino Control Board (http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=666) that will allow me to write a control program for the lighting inside the case. I'll have the RGB LEDs change from blue to red depending on the water temperature. The other 100 white LEDs will slowly/randomly fade in and out (Mac style) when they are on.

Also a dozen fiendishly overpriced Countersink Allen Screws made of copper:

More coming soon - Thanks for reading.

08-04-2008, 12:31 AM
You had me at Carbon Fiber... And yes, I am asking, -WHERE IS IT GOING ALREADY????

08-04-2008, 09:50 AM
@rendermandan - Thanks a lot mate, your motorized madness project was actually one of the inspirational creations that got me started on this project. BRAVO on that!

The boy 4rm oz
08-04-2008, 10:01 AM
I was wondering when you would bring this over from Bit-Tech Langer. A truly awesome mod my friend. Great work.

08-04-2008, 11:09 PM
@The boy 4rm oz - Thanks for the warm welcome mate!

08-05-2008, 10:02 AM
I'm glad you liked my case mod. -Have you seen my custom LED RGB lighting controller I made for my XPS Laptop?


Its funny, I bought some of the electronics for it from SparkFun.

08-05-2008, 11:16 AM
@rendermandanCool lights mate, I hadn't seen that. I'm thinking something similar for my mod only I want it to be automated, I want the lights to signal certain event changes (eg: water temp rising, water flow rate dropping, water level, etc). I love what you created there however, fantastic work... you may be getting some emails from me in the future in search of help.

I did some extensive modding on my own laptop. I crammed a whole bunch of stuff into my eeePC (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=148886&highlight=eeePC)...since doing this there has been a whole eeePC modding underworld develop. I've actually modded about 6 of these units here (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=153389&highlight=eeePC) is another example, for good measure.

08-06-2008, 04:42 PM
Ok i have to ask, where did you get the arduino board?, I can't find one for the life of me and the only place that i knew sold them has stopped selling microcontrollers

08-06-2008, 10:20 PM
@mercerman318 -

and with these comes a USB Arduino Control Board (http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=666) that will allow me to write a control program for the lighting inside the case.

08-07-2008, 05:18 AM
You have taken modding to a another level with this . .looks amazing! +Rep
Your concept designs are obviously well thought out, and the fabrication is right on.
Subscribed! Engraved copper plates were a nice touch. Badass!

08-07-2008, 12:43 PM
Awesome. Can't wait to see more.

08-19-2008, 05:12 PM
Sorry for the lack of updates folks. I had to leave town unexpectedly for about 10-days.

I'm back now and progress has been made with my CNC parts regardless of my absence.

Tune in soon for it'll be a busy week.

08-20-2008, 02:52 PM
Hey guys, thanks for the kind responses and concerns.

Despite my hopes of coming back to a mailbox full of goodies, the only items that have arrived in my absence are the WiFi antennas, the 100x 3mm LEDs and the 100x LED mounts. I'll post some images of these later tonight.

Still en-route are:
30x 1"diameter x 3/4"tall copper rings.
Female serial plug
12xBlinkM RGB LEDs
Arduino Control Board
12x8oz cans of Krylon Premium Metallics Copper Brilliance Spray Paint
CoolerMaster Aquagate (for the PICO unit)
2.40mm Radiator
Copper Hex Screws
1250ft of custom designed and manufactured 18AWG ribbon wire
Mips RAM-Freezer 4 memory water block.

Yet to be shipped AquaCopmuter products:
aquaero 4.00 USB Fan-Controller
multiswitch USB 1.41
aquastream XT Temperatursensor 70 cm
Rotary elbow adapter G1/4
2x aquagraFX for GTX 280 (G200) G1/4
Durchflusssensor (FlowSensor) G1/4

I haven't yet had a chance to meet up with my machinist to see how the precision cut aluminum prototypes are coming. I've not yet even begun to manufacture anything in copper plate... this will be the last step. I want to make everything from aluminum first to ensure that all the fits are perfect; however my machinist has informed me that he has cut out several aluminum parts and that they are looking good.

Due to the hectic schedules of myself, my machinist, and my financial adviser (who wants me dead, I'm sure) coupled with MASSIVE shipping delays; I'm back to sitting around waiting for stuff to arrive.

Until I get my prototype aluminum pieces I cant start the lighting or wiring because I wont know the exact placing.

The boy 4rm oz
08-21-2008, 03:58 AM
Got lots of gear heading your way mate.

08-25-2008, 02:41 PM
A small overdue update for you all.

Unfortunately my hands are still very much tied, due to many delays (mostly shipping), so progress has been minimal.

I have complete a number of little things this week however:
1- I have completed the lighting design.
2- I've modified and uploaded my verison of pfSense to my Alix board, so it's working nicely now.
3- I think I've completed my arduino lighting software, but I haven't yet got my arduino controller delivered so I don't know if it works as planned just yet.
4- I began designing my front end software that will control my watercooling and run on the from 7" touch screen.
5- I've also ordered a new keyboard (http://www.apple.com/keyboard/), I love my apple slim keyboard but I was unable to find black key replacements for it so I've ordered the bluetooth version.
It looks to me that the new macbooks and the slim bluetooth keyboard use the same keys at least I hope so because new replacement keys were about $2.50 a piece, so I ordered a complete set of black keys for the keyboard. I'll then make new copper housing for it to replace the stock apple aluminum. In theory this should make for a very sexy black/copper keyboard.

Some of the items that have arrived in the mail since my last posting:
Some of my lighting accessories:

The 3mm LED housings that I will paint to look Copper Plated:

White 3mm LEDs:

Resistors that will let me run the LEDs from a 12volt source:

And an assembly overview of what the LED holders look like:

I also got my Laptop WIFI antennas, I will be using 2x antennas for each of the antenna outputs on the WiFi card.

Lastly, my 40.2mm radiator has arrived, so once the aquagate gets here I'll be able to assemble my Pico-ITX watercooling system.
This thing is so bloody tiny, sorry for the bad picture, but keep in mind it's only 40mm wide... too cool.
I used the mill and a frighteningly precarious clamping technique to mill down the Pico's heat sink further

I decided to take some pics of my workshop, it's very dirty and the equipment is tired, but it all does the job well enough:
mill... strongarm style
enerpac press, and sandblaster
surface grinder

I forgot to take pics of the drillpress, but I assume you all know what those look like.

Here's the golden tool - 2.5axis router table

I decided to make an homage to Canadian modding out of some spare carbon panel I had laying around.

If the stars are aligned and my supplies arrive this week, expect HUGE progress over the next little while.

Thanks for reading, and tune in soon.

The boy 4rm oz
08-26-2008, 03:14 AM
Loving the idea for the keyboard mate. Can't wait to see that PICO water cooled. Nice workshop BTW.

08-26-2008, 04:13 AM
nice shop dude

08-26-2008, 09:58 AM
@The Boy 4rm oz - Thanks man, the pico should be the first part to get finished off... assuming my aquagate arrives as planned.

@Dont-Fear - Thanks man. The shop is actually my fathers MAN CAVE, but of course he doesn't mind my tinkering.

08-26-2008, 10:41 AM
In case anyone is still a bit confused as to my plans for the Pico I'll outline it below:

The 40.2mm radiator (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-40mmradiator.jpg) will be cooled by 2 of the cool air intake 40mm fans (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-bay6.jpg) mounted in the front panel/drivebay.
The stock Pico-ITX heatsink (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/stockvia.jpg) has had a flat spot (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-picowc3-1.jpg) milled into it to allow me to afix the CoolerMaster Aquagate pump/block to it.
I asked xtreme0915 to send me some pics of the aquagates pump/waterblock, hopefully this will fill in the blanks:

08-26-2008, 07:44 PM
wow thats tiny man....

08-29-2008, 11:07 AM
Another parts update:

My parcel from SparkFun (http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php) arrived this morning. As did my box from AquaComputer, only I won't be able to pick it up from the post office until later this evening.

So-far we have:
The BlinkM RGB LEDs

The Arduino control board

The Female serial plug that will allow me to convert the USB>Serial adapter (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-serial.jpg) from Male to Female.

I'll have my AquaComputer stuff tonight, so tune in then.

Thanks for reading.

08-29-2008, 05:23 PM
So I see you have experience in programming C/assembly. In my opinion it would have been easier for you to build a custom rgb controller than implement I2C communication with a controller. I would say it would have been even less coding to do that.

You can easily implement color change between blue and red if you buy a temp chip and implement it using I2C once again. There are some other cool sensors available too.

Regarding the 100 LEDs then just hook up some transistors and it should work well. Don't forget to do the math first. If you have any problems regarding programming arduino or any implementation - write me.

Drum Thumper
08-29-2008, 07:38 PM
2 things: I want your shop, and I'm going to be subscribing--I considered the BlinkMs for a mod, and am curious as to how they're gonna work out.

08-29-2008, 08:08 PM
@custom_electronics_man - Thanks for the advice. I have considerable programming experience but Arduino will be new to me, but I figure it can't be that hard. As for the 100 or so white LEDs I'm going to split them into 5-6different zones, which will help with the wiring a little bit. You'll probably end up getting some communications from me in the future, thanks a lot for the offer.

@DrumThumper - Thanks man... tune in and we'll see how well they work out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/AquaComputerLogo.png (http://www.aqua-computer.de/)
Again many many thanks to my sponsor AquaComputer (http://www.aqua-computer.de/) for generously providing the following:

For those of you who aren't aware of the power of the AquaComputer components. here (http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/download/aquaero_multiswitch_tubemeter.wmv) is a small demonstration video showing the power of the AquaComputer system (aquaero display, aquastream pump, multiswitch, tubemeter water level sensor, aquasuite software).

Here (http://www.aqua-computer.de/e_content/e_aquaero.htm) you will find AquaCopmuter's explanation of the AquaComputer automated "monitoring" hardware.

Aquaero 4.00:

AquaComputer 90degree swivel elbows:

AquaComputer Flow Sensor:

Multiswitch 1.41:

And the center pieces of the system... PrometheusCU Edition G200 waterblocks. Aquacomputer was generous enough to build two of these fore this project. (Note that the Prometheus text appears 'burnt' in the images but this doesn't show up to the naked eye)

More assembly to come soon.

Thanks for reading!

The boy 4rm oz
08-29-2008, 09:12 PM
AquaComputer makes some really fantastic stuff. Like the PrometheusCu edition water block mate. Quality.

08-30-2008, 08:02 AM
@The boy 4rm oz - Many thanks man, nothing but the best =)

09-02-2008, 11:10 AM
The CoolerMaster Aquagate Duo generously donated by xtreme0915 of the SliZone forums has arrived today!

I will be using the Aquagate's clever little waterblock/pump assembly to cool the pico board.

Here is how the waterblock will be mounted to the Pico-ITX board. Note that I've yet to construct a proper bracket for mounting.

Here is a pic of the board next to the rad that will be cooling it.

Here's a quick glimpse of my desk right now, it's been sitting like this for about a month... I really need to pick up the pace.

The boy 4rm oz
09-02-2008, 11:16 AM
I am really hoping that water cooled PICO works for you. I really wanna have a mess around with a PICO board.

09-02-2008, 07:21 PM
Watercooling a pico. +Rep
First time I have seen this done.
Looks like the GPU watercooling system
. .will be efficient enough cool the pico.

09-02-2008, 09:05 PM
@The boy 4rm oz - Thanks for the vote of support, again I can't recommend the Pico more... it's just so cool.

@Eclecticos - Since the Pico-ITX board doesn't need cooling (http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=425) I'm pretty sure that even this modest loop is more than overkill. I'm pretty sure that this is the worlds first watercooled Pico I search for others but I've found no-one else mad enough to do it.

09-03-2008, 03:06 AM
so small.... looks pretty sweet

09-03-2008, 03:38 PM
That key would look amazing

do you intend on a mouse and screen to match as well?

09-03-2008, 03:53 PM
@DonT-FeaR - Aye, it is small... and damn sexy if I do say so myself.

@scar~face - Thanks. I'm definitely making a mouse but a screen may be tricky as I currently have 5-screens for my setup (1x42" 2x22" 2x19") and the project itself will ahve 3xscreens built into the case. If there is time, and $$ left I'll be making 5 monitor mods, but don't hold me to that.

09-04-2008, 06:28 AM
very sexy... (????) lol good work keep it up

Dane Bramage
09-04-2008, 12:31 PM
i like the look. very clean. most excellent progress.

09-04-2008, 09:48 PM
@DonT-FeaR - Sexy... indeed! The metal fabricator in me loves to stare at these blocks and the fabrication quality.

@Dane Bramage - Thanks man, I'm moving as fast as I can. ;)

09-05-2008, 12:37 AM
I've been away from the forums for a while, but I just learned my lesson. Fantastic mod, +rep and subscribed.

09-09-2008, 08:51 AM
Wow... I get buried under work, and dig myself out to find this...
I really need to spend more time here. o.o

+rep +sub.

09-09-2008, 06:19 PM
This is gonna be sick. Im lovin it so far.

09-11-2008, 11:14 PM
@TheMainMan - Thanks a lot man, hopefully I'll catch you around town some time. ;)

@Helix666 - Happy to be a reason for dragging you away from the real world mate. Thanks!

@grayfox2 - Many thanks.

My machinist (who is doing all my work for free BTW) called me today declaring that he will work though the night if necessary, I'll have the prototype parts cut tomorrow. It's been a crazy time for him and I can't really hold anything against him considering the predicament, also he just moved his shop to a new building at the beginning of Sept.

I have a new dilemma however.

Corsair has been kind enough to provide 8GB(4x2gb) of Dominator 1066mhz RAM with no heat spreaders attached, only they've expressed a little caveat which has me thinking.

With these MIPS Computer GmbH has been very kind and has sponsored me with a RAM Freezer 4 memory waterblock:

However since Dominator ram has additional PCB height to aid in heat dissipation:
I'm concerned that the Dominator RAM may not work with the RAM Freezer 4.

Of course I could ask Corsair to provide a RAM from the XPS series that does not have the extra height, but I'm waiting for MIPS Computer to get back to me with measurement specifications.

I've also taken delivery of a couple other aesthetic items this week, I'll have pics up tomorrow or early weekend.

Thanks for reading... and waiting... see you all soon.

The boy 4rm oz
09-12-2008, 02:24 AM
Congratz on the front page mate. Loving those RAM coolers.

09-18-2008, 02:37 PM
The boy 4rm oz - Thanks mate.

Sorry for the delays folks, but my metal is still not cut (don't get me started... I'm pissed) and until it's installed I cant really do a whole lot else.

I decided to try my hand at fabricating panels from my fabric. These were soaked in resin and pressed at an obesene pressure of several thousand tonnes.
You don't get this look from carbon decal!

The next one is the closest thing to a definition of "indestructible" as you'll ever find. I don't know how many layers there are in this - but it's about a 1/2" thick. It will be used for a few structural components.

I've also got a few yards of copper mesh, I have a few plans for this stuff it looks really cool when wrapped tightly around wires and cables.

Another generous donated product courtesy of Mach over at TheBestCaseScanario's forums. Some braided copper sleeve.

Lastly we've got 100' of 18gage copper flat wire to be wrapped around the black tubing for aesthetic reasons.

Also the metallic copper paint I ordered on July 27th is still not even shipped yet which is holding up some of my smaller mods.

I'm just playing the waiting game from now until when my metal is cut. I've done a few little things like lapping my GPU's and CPU, other than that noting big.

The boy 4rm oz
09-18-2008, 09:07 PM
I am loving the detail you are going into my friend. Can't wait to see the cables with the copper accents and what you end up doing with that CF.

09-19-2008, 04:11 AM
nice work... love the look of copper..

09-19-2008, 08:31 AM
Suh-weet, you found a vendor for the copper mesh. Did you source locally or have to have it shipped from India? Can't wait for mod pr0n :)

09-19-2008, 10:05 AM
@The boy 4rm oz - Thanks mate. The devil is in the details.

@DonT-FeaR - Thanks.

@Mach - I managed to find a eBay source for a great price too - it is a fabric mesh but it bloody well looks the part regardless (plus it weighs much less than a true copper weave). I'll fire you off a PM with the source. And THANKS again for the copper sleeve - it's pimp.

09-19-2008, 11:12 AM
No worries, let me know if you need more.

Definitely shoot me a PM on the supplier

09-19-2008, 01:21 PM
this things incredible! cant wait to see more updates!

09-20-2008, 09:38 PM
@Mach - PM sent sir.

@SXRguyinMA's - Thank you very much, there is much much more to come... lots of cool **** that has yet to be revealed in it's entirety.

10-02-2008, 07:00 PM

I've got Watercool Germany on-board now. They've generously offered to provide some waterblocks from their new 'Heatkiller' V3.0 lineup coming at the end of October. With this addition I'll be removing the D-Tek Fuzion and perhaps cooling the motherboard as well.... which calls for another Aquastream XT pump IMO.

I'm very very excited about this - I have to give some credit to ModSquad as I've never heard of the Watercool Heatkiller before he posted the image of one of their blocks in his CopperHead mod. Suffice to say I fell in love and had to have them.

For those of you not familiar with the HeatKiller blocks, here's a tase:

More to come, thanks for reading.

10-02-2008, 08:18 PM
theese blocks will fit your theme 2tm!

The boy 4rm oz
10-02-2008, 09:37 PM
They are some seriously sexy and well crafted blocks, they look the part and they cool very well. Congratz on the new sponsor.

10-02-2008, 11:33 PM
Congratz man. Cant wait to see the finished product. Those blocks by the way or beautiful becasue they are so simple. Nice clean lines. After you get it built definatly want to know how well those blocks work.

10-07-2008, 03:43 AM
Hey been reading your project, its amazing ive never seen anything like it great work, one thing with the last picture above of the motherboard you have all the waterblocks in place the one closest to the pci-express slots seems a bit worrying if you have tubes out of there the gtx -280s wouldnt seem to fit. Just a observation you might find a way round it :D


The boy 4rm oz
10-07-2008, 04:21 AM
That isn't a pic he took. That is a reference pic from the manufacturer web site show casing all of their blocks. A GTX280 would fit due to the PCB being in line with the center of the PCI slot. The mosfets ads such would be on a seperate loop anyway to keep temps down so the tubing wouldn't really interfere with the GPU.

10-07-2008, 04:38 AM
Oh ok cool, was just sayin:D thanks for the info.

The boy 4rm oz
10-07-2008, 05:07 AM
No worries.

10-08-2008, 06:57 PM
very nice man... very sleek....
you are encouraging my urge to make a water cooled cpu block.... thats right make.... lol

probably wont,,,,

very nice

10-09-2008, 01:36 PM

I spent two days learning Rhino/Visual Mill/ToolPath then I spent the last day cutting (actually I'd call it 'watching the machine cut').

I admittedly went though a couple of 1/8 bits but I expected to break a few. The machine took just over 10hrs to cut the parts out (damn grills!). I've not yet started cleaning the edges of these prototypes but I'm doing that soon.

I'll let these teaser pics speak for themselves.

HERE are the aluminum prototypes that once filed/bent/installed will be replaced with finely machined copper.

I started with some 1/2ply wood and a scrap 40"x40"x1/8" hunk of aluminum.

I then booted up rhino and prepared the parts for cutting.

Holes were drilled for screws to hold the aluminum down.

10 long boring hours later:
rad grill:

MatrixOrbital Typhoon enclosure/PSU mount/and Right side drive bay enclosure.

Left side drive bay enclosure:

Bottom rad housing - lower tray.

Top fan grill:

Front face plate:

Some of the cuts look a little wonky in the pics but all the cuts are straight and clean - they just have quite a bit of burrs that need filing down - which I should be done by this weekend.

Here is the keyboard - pre-modding:

Thanks for reading - tune in soon.

10-09-2008, 01:48 PM
looks good! but yeah. alot of filling has to be done:P

The boy 4rm oz
10-09-2008, 10:20 PM
Damn 10 hours for a grill, it was worth it. Looking really good. I love that keyboard.

10-09-2008, 11:19 PM
Those peices look great. Can't wait to see them all filed down and ready to be put on. That's a cool looking keyboad, what is it?

10-09-2008, 11:43 PM
It's the slim apple wireless keyboard.

A quick and dirty test fit, everything looks to be really well measured. They fit perfectly.

The boy 4rm oz
10-10-2008, 02:56 AM
That does fit perfectly. Looks excellent, can't wait for you to get the gear in there.

10-10-2008, 08:50 PM
Thanks a lot guys, I really appreciate the support.


The MESS! (parts everywhere - on an under the desk)

10-11-2008, 12:15 AM
looking good so far + rep

10-11-2008, 07:28 AM
Great to see each stage as it happens

10-11-2008, 07:32 AM
wow so much cooler than i originaly thought....

The boy 4rm oz
10-11-2008, 09:29 AM
She is looking fantastic my friend, keep it up.

10-13-2008, 03:18 PM
Thanks a lot guys. I appreciate the support.

Update time.

Today I decided to finally fabricate the mount for the Pico-ITX waterblock/pump.

First I made a prototype from cardstock at 1:1 scale.

The I busted out the dremel and attacked a scrap piece of aluminum - left over from an old Lian-Li mod.

After an hour or so of hand filing, a couple quick bends, and a few holes drilled we get this:

It's then mounted to the pump/waterblock:

If you'll recall I did some modification to the stock Pico heatsink (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/stockvia.jpg). I've now finished off these mods with a few counterbored holes:

The waterblock is installed onto the stock heatsink

Finally this entire assembly is mounted to the Pico-ITX board - which is already mounted onto a bracket holding its PSU/IO/HDD. The entire thing can now be mounted into a standard 5 1/4" drive bay.

The whole thing still needs some final edge cleaning and most likely a coat of black paint - other than that she's all done.

Thanks for reading - more to come soon.

10-13-2008, 03:44 PM
Very, very cool! Can't wait to see what's next!

10-13-2008, 07:12 PM
Every things looking great. The aluminum really stands out. Can't wait to see more. +rep

The boy 4rm oz
10-14-2008, 03:35 AM
I am really impressed my friend, fantastic ingenuity . Also love that CF BTW.

I can't wait to finish LEXA and try to get my own PICO board for my new mod.

Dane Bramage
10-14-2008, 08:52 AM
that's some mighty fine bit of modding there, bud.

+rep bigtime.

10-15-2008, 08:59 PM
@Mach - Thanks! I still have much in store for you my friend.

@mittelmeier - Thanks man, I appreciate that.

@The boy 4rm oz - Thanks a lot mate. I'm stipulating that Pico's (and their successors) be a standard in all my projects hence forth.

@Dane Bramage - Thank you very much.

A simple question to Corsair has led to a some new developments which I will elaborate upon once the parcel arrives. This mystery parcel will be shipped tomorrow (hopefully).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/CorsairLogo-Horizontal-RGB.jpgI have to give a HUGE shout out to Robert from Corsair... who has been a massive help - even after that time I accidentally called his cell and woke him up (time zones are a pain). THANKS ROB!

Also some news from Mips
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-mipslogo.jpgThat RAM Freezer 4 has been reengineered and now supports Dominator class RAM. This new trinket was shipped out yesterday and is on it's way here from Germany as we speak. As an added bonus this item will soon be available from Mips if anyone else is interested.

The boy 4rm oz
10-16-2008, 02:31 AM
New toys, lucky you. Can't wait to see those new RAM blocks.

10-21-2008, 02:36 PM
Updates...many updates.

I have more to share but I'll save it for this evening.

My NAKED RAM courtesy of Corsair - 8GB of 1066mhz Dominator.

My Dominator compatible Mips RAM Freezer 4 has arrived as well. This this is BEAUTIFUL, a fantastic peice of engineering. The build quality is top notch.

Here they are installed:

I have several more updates to share, but I've been really busy the past week and I've not had a chance to take pictures. I'll post more stuff this evening - with that will be pics of some more Corsair goodies.

Thanks for reading.

10-21-2008, 02:38 PM
That looks awesome. I can't wait to see the rest of the progress tonight.

10-21-2008, 02:56 PM
F'n sweet dude!

10-21-2008, 03:47 PM
I had asked Corsair if they could at all provide me with the wires that go with their HX series PSUs.

They responded over and above to my request:

More to come tonight still, solong for now.

10-21-2008, 09:22 PM
this things coming a long nicely :bowdown: thats a LOT of wires!

10-21-2008, 09:35 PM
Awsome!!!! love the ram wb's

The boy 4rm oz
10-22-2008, 03:23 AM
You really are lucky mate. A very sexy RAM cooler for some simply awesome RAM, very nice. Love the PSU. The board looks great with all those water blocks on them.

10-22-2008, 01:47 PM

What's the word I'm looking for? ... "Schu-weeet!" ;P
In all seriousness, that is a very clean mod. +rep for you, and props to your sponsors.

EDIT: got to spread rep around before I rep you again. :/

10-22-2008, 05:41 PM
I just took the time to read through your worklog. I am extremely impressed! Looks amazing, I like the usage of multiple systems in one, and the fabrication is sweet!

10-22-2008, 07:10 PM
Small update. I wanted to upload these pics last night but Photobucket had other ideas.

I've started ordering my hardware for this project. In the form of Brighton Socket Cap Allen Bolts, and Coutersunk Allen Bolts.
I still havent got my hands on the smaller bolts as they were special order, but here's the big stuff.
The below sizing ranges from 4-40, to 1/4-20 - I've ordered a couple hundred in each size.

I got 100 carbide rods, the purpose of these will be revealed much later.

With those come six 36"x1/2"x1/16" copper flat bars. I will be bending these to fabricate cable ties and wire harness brackets.

Also, 15' of 3/8" split loom tubing - this will be used on the Pico watercooling tubes, and on a couple wires that wont be seen.

I also started bending my prototypes, and as expected I don't have the tools to do this to the level that I desire.

In light of this I've taken the liberty of sending the whole fabrication of these parts to China.
I will have a Chinese company fabricate these things to perfection from copper plate in the near future.
The parts that I have will work perfectly for what I intended them to do - these aluminum bits will be installed to allow me to continue fabrication of other parts. Also I've already made a couple of design changes that will be applied to the final copper bits.


Thanks for reading, more to come very soon.

The boy 4rm oz
10-23-2008, 02:08 AM
Lots of bolts. I can't wait to see those pieces made of copper.

10-23-2008, 09:31 AM
definitely, will look amazing :D

10-24-2008, 01:11 AM
Minor Update:
I've decided to add another loop to the mix for the motherboard - and it had to be fairly small to fit, so I've made a little order from Performance-PCs.

3 x Chomerics Thermattach® T412 Conductive Tape
1 x Enzotech Forged Low Profile Copper Northbridge Heatsink
1 x Thermaltake CL-O0027 TG1 Extreme High Grade Thermal Grease
2 x Bitspower Rotary Fitting "T" - 180 Degree Water Cooling Accessory - Black Sparkle Finish
2 x Bitspower Case Top Water Fill/ Through Hole Fitting Set
2 x Bitspower Dual G1/4" High Flow Fitting - Male to Male Thread
2 x Koolance Tubing Spring Wrap, Black [10mm, 3/8"]
10 x PrimoFlex Pro LRT Black Tubing -3/8in. ID X 1/2in. OD
1 x Black Ice® GT Stealth 120 Highest Performance Radiator
10 x Bitspower Premium G1/4" High Flow 3/8" Fitting - Black Sparkle Finish
4 x Enzotech Pure Forged Copper Ramsinks
4 x Koolance Tubing Spring Wrap, Black [13mm, 1/2" ID; 19mm, 3/4" OD]
1 x Sunbeamtech Notebook Memory Heat Spreader
1 x Yate Loon 120x20mm Medium Speed Thin Silent Case Fan - D12SM-12C

I have a somewhat vague vision of cramming in another 120mm rad and Aquastream pump along with Mosfet/NB/SB coolers.
If I can make it work it will add yet another level of difficulty, and fun.

I'm revising my part drawings as well to accommodate the new parts + some minor errors I hadn't seen early on.
More to come as soon.

The boy 4rm oz
10-24-2008, 03:13 AM
WOW you just keep making this harder and more fun for yourself aren't you lol. Good luck mate. I can't wait to see more.

10-26-2008, 05:33 AM
*drools at all of the above* *drip, drip, drip*(pool of spit)

10-27-2008, 02:07 AM
Since I want to minimize the airflow resistance on the main radiator mounted on the bottom of the unit I'll need to construct some feet that are 2.5-3" tall.

Aesthetically this is no easy task, and not something that I've addressed to date.

I've spent the past few hours in Illustrator trying to solve this large dilemma.

I've come up with the image below.
The intent here is to use a bunch of carbon fiber panels spaced ~0.5" apart to make a sort of skeletal base structure.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-01-low.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-01.png)
*click for big*
I've come up with a few extra surprises to go with this base design.
However...I'd like to ask what you all think of the concept first.

I've already devised a way of incorporating the PROMETHEUSCU logo into the mix - it was simply too complicated for me to be bothered drawing in perspective (at this time).
My intent is to put and LED in between every layer to allow crazy lighting effects
The flat part seen at the very bottom of the illustration acting as a flat base will be the uber carbon panel (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbontest202.jpg), shown earlier.

I'd love to hear your opinions and suggestions on how to add feet to this rig.

Thanks for helping and reading!

10-27-2008, 02:24 AM
Awesome sketch! That is going to look amazing when you start getting it laid out. I can't wait.

The boy 4rm oz
10-27-2008, 02:51 AM
Those feet are fantastic, takes the mod to a whole new level (literally) lol.

Will you be making the spines from copper or alu?

10-27-2008, 03:55 AM
DO IT!!!!! looks bloody awsome

10-27-2008, 09:21 AM
Nice work Langer! It could work although its taking the case in a more organic direction. It does speak to the excess theme tho :). How thick are the panels? Will it highlight the strength of the CF too? As an alternate idea, maybe look at speaker plinths/spurs or high end turntables for inspiration?



The boy 4rm oz
10-27-2008, 09:37 AM
Nice fins Mach, they look sexy lol.

10-27-2008, 11:20 AM
I totally agree with you Mach, I don't feel that it totally fits into the theme of the whole thing - that's why I'm asking for your aid.

I'd like to fabricate something along these lines - and I had planned on incorporating carbon throughout the case so I know the material will blend. It's the design that doesn't blend for me.

The carbon panels used would be fairly thick so I know the structure is there. There is also a fair bit of engineering that would go into these fins that you don't see in my rough concept illustration (I'll do another sketch to show this area - I'll post it later). So I'm certain that structural integrity wont be an issue.

I need the case elevated off the ground to maximize airflow to the rad, the case needs to be ~6CM off the ground.
My worst nightmare is to have the feet ruin the whole aesthetic - having the case sit on 4black aluminum popcan style feet is not an option for me.

Trying to develop a foot that holds the system ~2.5"-3" in the air is proving very very tricky.

What I don't want to happen is something like this:

Because I'll be making a stealthing plate/cable management system for the back end I have another concept that would give me a look something like this:
What I can do for this look is, extend the back stealthing plate and the front of the rad tray - there is very little extra work needed for this design.

10-27-2008, 12:47 PM
Agreed, the first picture looks bad.

Just to be clear though on the CF, I was asking to understand how thin they'd be ie something that'd highlight that its impossibly strong. The first though that comes to mind is Hyperboloid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperboloid_structure) but still too organic.

You could go to down the path of the Mac Pro but that just seems too derivative.

I'll have a think and dig through my design folder. How well does CF perform in compression if it's water cut?

10-27-2008, 01:13 PM
how the cf will perform will depend on the weight of the cf itself, type of weave, type of resin used and how it was molded (hand-laid, pressure molded, injection molded, etc)

10-27-2008, 01:37 PM
The carbon used with be extra rigid design, using high modulus fibers, and performance resins. A simple basket weave pattern. It will be pressure molded at ~600tonnes or so.

The carbon will be cut on a waterjet.

I'll do a drawing illustrating how I'd like to install these fins, as well as how I plan on incorporating the strength of carbon.

I just need to derive a way of making them more congruent with the rest of the design.

10-27-2008, 04:42 PM
Ok, ok stupid question. The CF will be one step below space shuttle grade. :)

How about something like this?

A little too curved but visually closer. All CF or alternating copper and CF.

Don't laugh but what about something like this?

Float the case above a weighted based that way you keep the visual lines but still get your gap.

10-27-2008, 05:23 PM
I love the Omen and I want one, but a starting price of $11500...I cant afford that right now.

Here's my revision 2, but I've been given ideas for a couple other directions to take it which I'm going to sketch out (one is more like the omen).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-02-LOW.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-02.png)
*click for big*

@Mach - "Float the case above a weighted based that way you keep the visual lines but still get your gap." - That gives me a great design idea, I'm going to give it a shot tonight. Thanks again man!

10-27-2008, 08:48 PM
Here is another idea for feet, inspired by the Omen.

All the concepts have a cable management back like the one featured in the picture below - the chunk removed from one corner is for the rear mounted AquaComputer Multiswitch.

In this design we extend the height of the back tray and the front Matrix Orbital Housing.
This also helps by offering a location for the Aquaero to be installed, below the Matrix Orbial Typhoon.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-03-low.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-03.png)

10-27-2008, 10:51 PM
A hybrid of rev2 and rev3:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-04-LOW.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-04.png)

10-28-2008, 01:18 AM
I really like the look of the last design. I think it fits the overall theme nicely and will keep the look.
I'm really going to have to come see this thing in person, it just keeps getting sweeter!

10-28-2008, 01:51 AM
very cool.... still love the first idea....

10-28-2008, 01:51 AM
Holy crap. That is amazing.

The boy 4rm oz
10-28-2008, 05:25 AM
I agree with the new design. The original one did look cool and all but the curved lines didn't really go. Still was a cool idea though.

That HP Voodoo PC is really cool, you just gave me a new idea for some feet ;).

10-28-2008, 07:10 AM
Ahhh much better, I like the latest design alot. Not to be a complete copper whore but are you thinking all CF or alternating with copper fins too?

10-28-2008, 10:33 AM
if you have that many fins the CF will be strong enough without question :D

I too like the idea of alternating CF and copper fins, would look tasty :up:

10-28-2008, 11:25 AM
Thanks for the suggestions folks, I'm going to draw rev 4 assembled now. Then I start on drawing each part to scale for cutting.

I had considered cutting 2x copper fins. Both would be sandwiched between 2x carbon sheets and used for the 1st and last fins, to add a subtle copper accent on the edge.

10-28-2008, 12:01 PM
Rev 4 - assembled.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-05-LOW.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-05.png)
*click for big*

10-28-2008, 12:05 PM
looks awesome in stencil form :D cant wait to see it :up:

10-28-2008, 05:17 PM
Thanks a lot guys, I think I'm going to go ahead with rev4, only some very minor revisions to add to it... and I'll let those be a surprise.

I added a splash of colour to the illustration, just to give a better idea of which parts will be made of which material:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-05B-LOW.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-05B.png)
*click for big*

10-28-2008, 08:37 PM
That's looking really nice. I would've chosen rev4 also.

10-29-2008, 02:21 AM
yea looking cool.... i still like the first one ... but its your mod :) make me change my mind with some more great work

The boy 4rm oz
10-29-2008, 02:45 AM
Now I have to agree, that by far does look the best. The first one was cool and all, unusual in design but this new one matches the straight lines of the Lian Li perfectly.

10-29-2008, 02:48 AM
yeah good point

number 4 it is...

ive been convinced

10-29-2008, 06:22 PM
Thanks a lot for the support everyone, I really appreciate and value your opinions.

Rest assured that I still have a few tricks up my sleeve with the case feet design, and a few ideas to better integrate the fins along with the rest of the case... but I'm going to leave you all guessing what they are.

I've gotten quite a few questions asking me what software and technique I used to produce my concept Illustrations.


As with my earlier "prototype part illustrations" the case feet concepts were drawn Adobe Illustrator. The images above are not 3D models - like you'd get with Sketchup - they are only 2D perspective illustrations. In fact it would have been easier and faster for me to do these perspective drawings by hand... but everything is just so much cleaner on screen.

I'll post a couple of images tonight showing how the drawings are done. Essentially they are just drawn using the line tool - one line at a time, doing my best to eyeball the proportions while staying true to the perspective.

I do it this way because of two major reasons:
1: I like to do perspective drawings, and I like to leave a certain degree of the design to my own internal vision. When I use 3D apps I find myself letting the program dictate my design, often this happens when trying to conform to the limitations of the tools available in the software.
2:Illustrations like the above depend less on exact dimensions and allow more flexibility (at the cost of time).

The only major disadvantages to 2D illustrations is that when you want another view, or even a subtle camera shift you need to do the drawing over again. Also... drawing curves - like the ones in my first foot revision - is a real pain in the ass, and takes a fair bit of understanding perspective principles.

10-29-2008, 06:22 PM
I'm such a fan of this project that I'm promoting it to "featured", great work and keep those updates coming! +rep

10-29-2008, 06:36 PM
WOW, I'm honored to have this project and myself awarded with a "featured log".

Thanks so much jdbnsn - I really appreciate this.

And another BIG thanks to everyone who has posted on, or even glanced at, this project worklog. Its the support, and kindness of the modding community that drives my inspiration. The acceptance that this project has received across the board has been incredibly surprising, and more-over incredibly exciting.

Thanks again everyone.

Tune in soon, there's a lot more coming - and it's coming soon!

10-29-2008, 07:27 PM
The last of the parts for the 2nd loop have been ordered today.

Again a big thanks to AquaComputer for their support; they are responsible for providing even more hardware for this project.

1 x aquastream XT USB 12V Pumpe - Ultra Version
2 x Connector set for Aquastream to G1/4
6 x Rotary elbow adapter G1/4

Thanks Sven. ;)

The boy 4rm oz
10-29-2008, 08:28 PM
Congratz on making a featured worklog. Believe me mate, you really deserve it.

10-29-2008, 09:36 PM
Congrats on the feature. You deserve it. Can't wait to see more. +rep

10-30-2008, 01:45 AM
One minor change... I don't like to add things that don't serve purpose, so in adding fins to the top I had to create purpose.

This is what I came up with - there's a bit more to the whole process, but this should give you the idea:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-05C-LOW.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-05C.png)
*click for big*

I haven't shown this feature yetm because it would be a bitch to draw the inlays in perspective, but I'll do my best to explain.
My plan is to cut the PROMETHEUSCU logo lettering out - leaving me 3-4" tall solid 1/8" thick copper letters.
Then I want to cut an 1/8" slots into the cross section of the fins. Letting me inlay the lettering perpendicular to the fins.

Ok I got half way though that last bit and figured I could just make a pic in less time:


forgot to add:

here is how the drawings are made... more or less:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-PERSPECTIVE.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-PERSPECTIVE.png)
*click for big*

The boy 4rm oz
10-30-2008, 02:04 AM
Looks really good but I think the top piece is a little too much. I love the name place on the bottom piece though.

10-30-2008, 01:51 PM
Just found this project today while seeking distraction during class.

I've looked at these forums for awhile but never got around to joining...until now.

Your project is just amazing, keep up the good work and I can't wait to see this project finished.

10-30-2008, 03:59 PM
I agree with tb4o, the top is a bit much. Maybe if you didn't take it down the side as far? The logo on the bottom fins is bad ass imo.

10-30-2008, 06:15 PM
Thanks guys. I do agree that the top is a bit much, but I think I can make it work before I send things out to be cut.

@gramatton - Welcome to the forums mate! Thanks for posting.

I got an email a few moments ago from Watercool... and it was very good news.

Production of revision 3.0 of the Watercool Heatkiller CPU block is complete - and it's a thing of beauty.

A huge thanks goes out to Rico, from Watercool, who says they'll be able to ship it out next week.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercoollogo.jpg (http://server3.gs-shop.de/200/cgi-bin/shop.dll?&AnbieterID=3395&rndid=88942651&Seite=frameset.htm&bnr=10164&PKEY=F3A7)


I cannot wait to add this baby to Prometheus... the stainless accents will match perfectly with the existing blocks too.

10-30-2008, 06:24 PM
That is one sick looking water block! It will fit in with the others nicely.

10-30-2008, 11:02 PM
damned nice block.

fits the theme well

10-31-2008, 12:22 AM
The black keyboard keys FINALLY arrived, and I'm quite pissed.

The keys fit, they fit really well... small caveat:

As you can see, some of the black keys are designed with a twist:

Normally I'd just scrap the plan, but this was a very expensive plan - that I was uncertain of from the beginning.

I've been running though a bunch of ideas and I've come up with this:

using an x-acto knife cut away the clips on he bottoms of the black keys, then cut the walls and corners off the existing white keys...ONE BY ONE!

The end result will work well with a few drops of super glue:

If you'll excuse me I have some grumbling and cutting to do.

10-31-2008, 12:30 AM
That's a shame they don't just interchange. You have more patience than I, the keys probably would've stayed as they were if it was me. You deserve some rep for what you are doing with the keys.

The boy 4rm oz
10-31-2008, 01:31 AM
They are some seriously sexy block and an awesome key board. +rep for going all out on this mod.

10-31-2008, 01:42 AM
yeah rodger that... agree with tb4o

rep ness

10-31-2008, 12:31 PM
@mittelmeier - The devil is in the details I'm afraid... and the devil is a bitch.

@The boy 4rm oz - As always, thanks mate.

@DonT-FeaR - Thank you.

10-31-2008, 07:21 PM
man i have to agree with ya the devil is a bitch... im redoing alot of my mod now cuz of the devil....

11-01-2008, 05:59 AM
Them fins gonna be copper as well?

11-01-2008, 06:20 PM
@Acey - nay nay sir, the fins will be Carbon Fiber (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-05B.png).

After 7hrs of straight carving and cutting, and a couple nicks on my fingers I have this:
The 'hollow' black keys:

The 'streamlined' white keys:

A pile of leftovers:

And the tools of the trade:
I still have to go get some super glue to hold them all together. The keys actually happen to 'snap' together quite nicely, the 'snap' even holds firmly... but I want glue.

Pics of the case and such will be posted tonight after clean my desk - perhaps tomorrow, if I can't get the light right I'll need the sunshine tomorrow.

11-01-2008, 07:02 PM
nice work man.... lots of patience

11-02-2008, 12:12 AM
Tons of patience. It will be worth it, those keys will look great on the keyboard.

11-02-2008, 12:33 AM
Wow, that looked like a lot of work. Good Job!

The boy 4rm oz
11-02-2008, 01:48 AM
Ye[ lots of patience mate, but a great result. Now all you need to do is make the copper ones right? lol.

11-03-2008, 02:28 AM
what is the keyboard,,, model??

The boy 4rm oz
11-03-2008, 02:30 AM
It's a MAC keyboard, I'm pretty sure anyway. Dunno the model.

11-03-2008, 05:37 AM
Yea, it's a MAC but I can't remember the exact model. It's a really nice keyboard even before he changed the keys.

11-03-2008, 06:02 AM
I'm pretty sure it's this wireless Bluetooth model


11-03-2008, 06:31 AM
:O very cool... nice

11-06-2008, 01:46 AM
@DonT-FeaR - Patience is synonymous with insanity apparently. Thanks!

@rendermandan - Thanks mate... once I got in the groove of it time flew by.

@The boy 4rm oz - I threw that idea around, and got a quote from a local machine shop but I discovered two things... 1-about $8+ for each key all said and done, 2-the projected weight of the copper keys is about the same as the weight needed to depress the key itself, so the keys would all be - nearly - depressed all the time with the weight.

If anyone has wondered where I've been...


I've been having a crap load of fun in my new Buick Grand National.. snow is coming soon so I only have a small window to play.

This car is unreal...it kicks like a bloody landmine for those of you in the know about cars here's the magic of my baby:

She pulls just over 11.4seconds in the 1/4 mile at 126mph!!!
To paint you all a picture of comparison:
McLaren F1 11.1s 134mph
Porsche Carrera GT 11.4s 132mph
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 11.5s 127mph
Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 11.6s 130mph
Ferrari F40 11.7s 125mph
Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 11.8s 126mph
Porsche 959 11.8s 119mph
Pagani Zonda C12 S 7.3 11.8s 129mph
... mind you my Buick will max out at about 145mph.

I had to install new racing radials in order to past the government safety inspection - the first time I used the transmission brake I actually managed to shred rubber off the wheels. I took a look at my scanmaster computer and it was showing 65mph... and the wheels were still peeling out - UNREAL! And once the tires warmed up I found myself with a sore neck at the end of the day. I'm in LOVE!

Back on track...er... off the track as it would be:
I get a Performance PC's delivery tomorrow with 43 items inside.
I get my 2nd pump and some more 90degree swivels from AquaComputer on Friday.
The parts designs have been finalized and I'll be sending the plans out to be manufactured. Water jet cutting, then laser raster engraving, then bending will be done on the copper in the next couple weeks. I'd have sent them already but I want the parts inside the performance PCs package in my hands first - just to be certain of the fit.

Rounding the home stretch now - I've continuously upped the complexity of this project over the past month which hasn't made anything easy and has pushed my completion dates back... but I always say "take your time and do it right." Regardless of that - I can smell the end coming.

The boy 4rm oz
11-06-2008, 01:51 AM
Yeah copper cast keys would be very heavy lol. A hell of a car you have there mate, extremely fast.

Can't wait to see the goodies when you get em.

11-06-2008, 02:18 AM
goodies woot!!!! cant wait

11-06-2008, 09:49 AM
Grand Nationals are amazing cars. I'd love to get my hands on one.

11-06-2008, 09:48 PM
One of my parcels arrived today:
First up the super skinny Black Ice Stealth GT 120mm rad that will cool the mosfets/nb/sb.

I also got a whole bunch of copper ram sinks that I'll be scattering about the motherboard - for pimp value.

With the unnecessary cooling comes a laptop ram cooler for the Pico-ITX ram.

The second loop needed tubing, and I figured 3/8" will more than cover that - my only issue with this tube is that it's a slightly lighter shade of black (also called GREY?!?!? way to drop the ball PPCs!) than my 1/2 tubing... so it will go right into the bin and I'll be ordering more from NCIX (the place where I got my other tubing).
The flash shows well just how GREY this 'black' tubing is.... useless.

In an attempt to minimize my tubing lengths i got a few anti kink coils:

I also needed some dark nickel plated 3/8" bitspower fittings:

I also got some bitspower T fitting for my fill points:

Some G1/4" bitspower male-male adapters:

Two bitspower fillports... that don't have caps... i didn't realize that and I expected some sealed caps and not just though holes.

Space constraints need to me replace one of my 133cfm Scythe fans with a slim Yate Loon (super lame company name IMO) fan.

Some thermal grease... anyone have any experience with this stuff in comparison to AS5?

And lastly some adhesive thermal pads.

Sorry for the crappy pics, lighting is poor in my basement.
Hopefully more updates tomorrow if my next Aquacomputer package arrives.

Thanks for tuning in... tune in tomorrow. Same Bat time, Same Bat channel.

11-07-2008, 12:47 AM
Nice goodies. Those heat sinks will look pimp.

The boy 4rm oz
11-07-2008, 03:36 AM
Very cool gear mate. The fittings look fantastic. Shame about the tubing. I have a urge to get white ;) lol.

11-07-2008, 04:00 AM
lol very nice bl bout tubing... dont throw it out tho........ put it in a cuboard.

cant spell....

11-08-2008, 06:59 PM
A quick update for you all:

I ordered the cable sleeving today - I couldn't find copper braid to the spec that I wanted and too many people are using plain old PET sleeve, so I went for Nylon.

The nylon sleeve that I will be using (http://cableorganizer.com/nylon-multifilament/#prices) is made to military spec and looks damn sexy IMO.

* UV resistant
* Operating Temp. -49°F to 248°F
* Melt Temp. 250°C / 482°F
* Excellent for sound and rattle control
* Compliant with European Union's Restrictions on the use of Hazardous Substances (RoHS) Directive

NM's fabric-like softness and flexibility hide surprisingly tough specifications. The high coverage sleeving meets or exceeds military specifications MIL-I-47203(MI) and MIL-S-47053(MI). Nylon Multifilament is highly resistant to abrasion, cuts, common automotive and marine chemicals, UV damage and vibration. It will not rot or retain moisture.

The only downside is that I had to order 100-225' of each size as a minimum... so I guess all my future projects will sport this sleeve... and the Buick will get some too.

HERE IS A VIDEO (http://cableorganizer.com/nylon-multifilament/#video)

On another note... I also ordered a custom license plate for the Buick - "D VADER"

11-08-2008, 09:01 PM
What diameter did you get? I'm looking for some sleeve to cover speaker wire for my GlaDos speakers. Maybe we could work something out. We'd have to work out the details somewhere else as to be kosher with forum rules, but I would be willing to buy some off you if it is what I need.

The build looks great.

The boy 4rm oz
11-08-2008, 10:00 PM
That sleeving does look good.

11-09-2008, 12:29 AM
@d_stilgar - I ordered minimum purchase lengths of 1/8", 3/16", 1/4", 3/8", 1/2", and 3/4". I'd be happy to part with some once I get it.

11-09-2008, 06:35 AM
very cool,,,

why didnt ya get langer as ya number plate?

lol happy birthday btw... i made a thread in chatterbox if ya didnt see it

11-09-2008, 01:30 PM
@DonT-FeaR - Thanks for the thread man, I appreciate that - very cool of you. As for the plate, I went with Vader because when Buick released the car back in the 80's it's nickname was 'Darth Vader' - I wanted to bring some of that nostalgia, that I was too young to appreciate, back.

11-09-2008, 03:38 PM
I got some more stuff form cableorganizer.com.

Some 'side-entry sleeving' called DuraWrap (http://cableorganizer.com/dura-wrap/#features).
# Tightly woven ballistic nylon construction
# Heavy duty, oversize hook & loop closure
# Resistant to engine chemicals and salt water
# Water, gasoline, and UV resistant
# High abrasion resistance

Dura Wrap is the perfect solution for organizing and controlling cables and hoses that are subject to constant exposure. This sleeve is made from one of the strongest materials known, ballistic nylon. The tightly woven nylon is paired with an industrial hook and loop closure to provide a durable and flexible sleeving.

Dura Wrap is ideal for keeping wires or hoses together or covering chains and hoses to protect the surfaces they run across. The sleeve provides the best abrasion resistance and water repellence when compared to other nylon sleevings.

The flexibility featured by Dura Wrap makes it easy to install over single or multiple hoses. The high strength and durability also help to protect operators or other personnel safe from high-pressure fluids that may be travelling in the hoses.

I opted for the 2.5" variety as I figured it would be a good way to manage the mess of cables that will cascade out the back of this machine when it's up and running.

I'm loving this website, some great stuff on there... check out these (http://cableorganizer.com/cord-it/).

11-10-2008, 02:54 AM
oh i get it now...

lol nice idea on the plates

i cant wait to see more of this case...

get ya keyboad done i like it lots... and lots

11-10-2008, 06:57 PM
@DonT-FeaR - As always, Thanks a lot mate. I had a kamikaze fly land on my clear coat so I had to sand the keyboard down and paint it again.

Another small update.

I took delivery of my second Aquastream pump today, and I've made the necessary modifications to mount it.

I must apologize for the very crappy images, the lighting is really poor in my basement.

First up I had to modify the 3.5" drive bay to accommodate the height of the radiator and the pump:

Then a small cut to the bottom of the 5.25" drive bay to make room for the inlet fittings:

Here is the pump installed, the install isn't yet finalized I've ordered a G1/4" plastic nipple to help reduce vibrations - and the pump will have a proper mount made for it to alleviate the strain on the outlet port.

My Watercool Heatkiller R3.0 CPU block was shipped late last week, and my NB/SB/Mosfet blocks are were shipped from Mips this morning - I'm expecting them Friday.

The cable sleeves will be shipped on the 18th of November.

More coming soon.

Thanks for reading.

AMD Killa
11-10-2008, 09:23 PM
Just a shame you didnt flip the motherboard, as you would be able to see those beautiful water blocks without looking at a funny angle. You could always put a mirror in the bottom.

Looks amazing so far. Cant wait to see it with the Heat Killer 3.0 (sounds like the title for a bad action movie:D) What's the internal lighting going to be like on this case?

11-10-2008, 09:40 PM
@AMD Killa -Thanks man. If you look back to the early posts you'll see i had some copper acrylic mirrors made for that very purpose. The lighting will consist of 12 BlinkM's (http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8579) and 100 white LEDs - all automated with a custom Arduino circuit/program and the AquaComputer multiswitch.

AMD Killa
11-10-2008, 09:55 PM
Sorry, I must have missed that post. Sounds like it's gonna look awesome with all that lighting. Can't wait to see it finished, as it already looks amazing.

11-11-2008, 01:57 AM
sounds like you got ya plate full with this atm ... cant wait

The boy 4rm oz
11-14-2008, 03:32 AM
Looking really sweet man, nice work.

11-15-2008, 10:53 PM
Another small update.

The very kind folks from performance PC's did me a favor and shipped some bits that I forgot to order super quick.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/header_left.jpg (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php)

First up another Scythe Fan:

Why 1x fan you ask?

Because I only ordered two extra the first time around, and I've allotted room in the final base design for the added height of 6x scythe fans. Delivering ~800CFM - realistically lower of course.

Also I'll be cooling the Alix integrated Linux firewall...because...er...um...those 433MHz Geode's are so... hot?. And it looks cool.
Enzotech did a fine shine job on this as well:

Lastly my first attempt at purchasing G1/4 plugs was a fail [see left], so I got "plug plugs" [see right]:

My fillport#1 - more on how these will be used later:

I've also repainted the keyboard, still needs sanding and more coats but it wont stop raining. Many more keyboard updates to come.

more later.

Thanks for reading.

The boy 4rm oz
11-15-2008, 11:19 PM
Man I love those Bitspower fittings, they look awesome. The keyboard is looking great also, nice work.

11-15-2008, 11:33 PM
Looking good! That keyboard is amazing looking. Can't wait to see it with the keys in place. +rep

11-16-2008, 03:54 AM
wow looking good man nice work.

11-17-2008, 03:28 PM
@The boy 4rm oz & mittelmeier & DonT-FeaR - Thanks a lot

Update time!

I took delivery of my chipset waterblocks today.

These are courtesy of Mips Computer Germany, these blocks are absolutely beautiful. Mips makes a damn fine product - with service to back it up too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-mipslogo.jpg (http://www.mips-computer.de/)

I'll let the pics to the talking today:

Only 1-more waterblock outstanding - and that's the R3.0 CPU block from Watercool. I hope it arrives soon.

More to come. Thanks for reading.

11-17-2008, 04:06 PM
I just re-read the entire thread, and i have to say this is amazing, i'm this close to starting a copper computer myself... Truly amazing work
On another note i was looking at hard drive coolers and came across this: http://www.quietpcusa.com/Smart-Drive-Classic-Cooper-Hard-Disk-Drive-Enclosure---All-Copper-P281C3.aspx
thought it would be perfect for you, cause i don't think you've said what you're doing with hard drives (if i missed it it's because i was busy staring at all the pretty copper

11-17-2008, 04:13 PM
Thanks for the link mate, but I don't know where I'm going to fit the HDDs any more - the extra pump and rad stole the intended HDD location.

Regardless of this, I'm using 4x 64GB SSD's internally and 4x750GB LaCie eSATA drives.

I've not yet found an enclosure suitable for 4xSSDs.

I'm leaning towards having the drives mounted below the chassis inside the radiator housing.

11-17-2008, 04:13 PM
WOW, those coolers look great on there. Amazing job man.

11-17-2008, 04:24 PM
should look great regardless, just thought you might like that :P

11-17-2008, 06:28 PM
looks dead sexy :bowdown:

11-17-2008, 07:17 PM
Thanks guys, small update.

I still have to sleeve the tubes with the nylon multifilament sleeving - much of the layout finalization will be done with the copper shrouds that are still not finished. The shrouds will also act as guides that will keep the hoses neat.

More soon.

11-17-2008, 07:35 PM
looks awesome!

11-17-2008, 08:52 PM
Looks great. :up:

11-17-2008, 08:58 PM
Wow, wow, wow! Amazing work Langer!

11-17-2008, 10:46 PM
Thanks guys

Slight revision, and a tubing diagram.

11-18-2008, 02:15 AM
:O wow

11-18-2008, 05:10 AM
The tubes look good as they are. Can't wait to see them once complete. Loving your work so far.

11-18-2008, 01:19 PM
looks amazing,

really diggin that keyboard. and i know its probably been said already but you have an incredible amount of patience, i woulda just popped all the keys out instead of taping them lol.

11-18-2008, 03:24 PM
Thanks a lot guys, and @gramatton - I did pop the keys off, but I had to tape over the electronics and the clips that hold the keys.

The sun is out so I got some better pictures.

Here is the 'fillport' for the first loop - this will be a bit more complex later on.

Here is the 'fillport' for the second loop, This T will be swapped for a Q and too will have a bit more added to it.

Here's where the Pico Rad will be mounted:

Here is a super simplified version of what will -sort of- be happening later.
*click for big*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-tubing-test-13-LOW.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-tubing-test-13.jpg)

I must stress that this is just the beginning, I have quite a few surprises left for this loop.
Also I will note that because of the second loop I'll no-longer be running the blocks in parallel - like my first diagram showed. The added tubes of the second loop kind of ruined that plan.

SO much more coming.
Tune in soon.

11-18-2008, 04:26 PM
That looks great! I can't wait to see more.

11-19-2008, 01:59 AM
wow... when are you going to start the feet for this thing?

11-19-2008, 02:04 AM
Looking good man! keep up the great work.

11-19-2008, 01:16 PM
ah i see. like i said, much more patience than i lol. of couse ima lazy bastard.

lookin good man, really comin together

11-20-2008, 10:33 PM
@mittelmeier - Thanks man, more coming very soon.
@DonT-FeaR[b] - All the copper bits, and the CF fins, are being waterjet cut, laser raster etched, and bent by the pros. I contracted a metal fabrication firm to make sure the parts were to 1/1000" spec.
@[b]rendermandan - Thanks man - same to you.
@gramatton - Thanks a lot... my patience is wearing on my sanity.

I just made another YET ANOTHER order from Performance-PCs today. Now I'm onto the wiring stage, so I finally know what I'll need.

Power Connectors:
4 x Connectx™ SATA 90deg Connector Female - End Cap
4 x Connectx™ SATA 90deg Connector Female - Pass-through Cap
5 x Connectx™ 4-Pin Floppy Connector Female
8 x Connectx™ 6-Pin PCI Express Connector Female
8 x Connectx™ 8-pin PCI Express Connector Female
10 x Connectx™ 3-Pin Fan Connector Female
5 x Connectx™ 3-Pin Fan Connector Male
2 x Connectx™ 24-pin ATX Connector Female
7 x USB 2 X 5 Header Connector Female
Power Pins:
80 x USB Header Female Pins
200 x Connectx™ ATX Female Pins
100 x Connectx™ Molex 4pin Female Pins
100 x Connectx™ Molex 4pin Male Pins
60 x Connectx™ Floppy 4pin Female Pins
Data Cables:
4 x E-SATA II Cable w/ Metal Latch - 6'
4 x SATA II Cable w/ Metal Latch - Straight to 90deg - 18"
2 x A.C. Ryan Dual Internal SATA to eSATA PCI Bracket
36" x PrimoFlex Pro LRT Clear Tubing - 1/2"ID X 3/4"OD
36" x PrimoFlex Pro LRT Clear Tubing - 3/8"ID X 1/2"OD
16 x Clamps for 1/2" Tubing
10 x Clamps for 3/8" Tubing
2 x Bitspower G1/4" Stop Fitting
6 x Bitspower Premium G1/4" Fitting Spacer
1 x Bitspower Rotary "Q" - Dark Nickel Plated
10 x Cord Clips 3/8" x 3/8"
24" x Heatshrink 3:1 - 1"ID
50 x Black Aluminum Pop Rivets 1/8" X 1/4"

Sub-Total: ~$300US

Suffice to say, there's more coming. Tune in soon.

In this picture:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-tubing-test-12.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-tubing-test-12.jpg)
You can see the difference in colour between the two tubing sizes - the colour difference is much more apparent to the human eye... luckily I'll be sleeving the tubes.

11-21-2008, 01:43 AM
I just got my receipt from CableOrganizer.com (finally, damn eChecks take too long to clear!) - I got the below:
225' - 0.125" Nylon Multifilament Sleeve (MSNYMF0125)
200' - 0.1875" Nylon Multifilament Sleeve (MSNYMF01875)
200' - 0.25" Nylon Multifilament Sleeve (MSNYMF025)
100' - 0.50" Nylon Multifilament Sleeve (MSNYMF050)
75' - 0.75" Nylon Multifilament Sleeve (MSNYMF075)
25' - 2.5" DuraWrap Ballistic Nylon Side-Entry Sleeve (MSDW250)
25' - 0.25" 2:1 Heatshrink (HS2-025FT)
25' - 0.5" 2:1 Heatshrink (HS2-050FT)
5' - 0.75" 4:1 Heatshrink (HS4-075-FT)

To- be shipped on the 28th... a bit behind schedule, but hopefully not an issue.

11-21-2008, 08:04 AM
holy crap thats a lot of stuff!

11-21-2008, 09:31 PM
jesus thats alot of things

11-22-2008, 01:11 AM
Hahaha yeah, I really feel sorry for the poor chap at Performance-PCs that has to box that package for me.


Also, I just noticed for the first time that I have 161 rep points. Considering that I only have 106 posts I was taken a back.

I'd like to thank everyone who has posted and especially those who have given me the +rep.

Much of my drive on this project has come from the thousands of positive responses I've received on my work-logs, and in my email inbox.

Thanks everyone!

11-22-2008, 01:51 AM
Here in the early hours of the morning I came up with a method of running the ATX and 12V lines between the motherboard and the mobo-tray - only to emerge right next to the PSU.

What I have come up with will involve soldering the power lines right to the mobo.

Also I'll be making a cut though the mobo tray beneath the ethernet port - I intend to solder a second port onto the bottom of the mobo, making it easier to wire the mobo to the Alix router.

I'll post a proper illustration - my brain fart doodling is indecipherable. Methinks it'll be tomorrow evening as I'm now off to bed now.

Karbon Killa
11-22-2008, 04:07 AM
OoOoO. Soldered ATX/12v wires wou;d be kick ass. Don't forget to take the connectors off the front of the board lol. I can't wait to see this.

11-22-2008, 08:38 AM
why sleeve the tubes? :) cant you just use black tubing? :D

11-22-2008, 04:16 PM
Soldering the power to your board...wow. Can't wait to see it done, never seen that before.

+rep for making my boss call you crazy

11-22-2008, 06:21 PM
We actually had a guy here remove the power connector from the motherboard and solder the wires from the PSU back into the board from the rear. It was amazing and I've never seen it done again. Unfortunately, I cannot remember who it was or what mod it was but if anyone here remembers please post a link.

Karbon Killa
11-23-2008, 02:44 AM
I've heard of it jdbnsn, I searched on google once one of my buddies told me about it, but never found it.

11-23-2008, 02:50 AM
what a loonie.... legend!!! lol

cant wait

11-23-2008, 11:17 AM
@Karbon Killa - Removing the connectors is part of the plan.

@p0Pe - I am using black tubing, and black anti kink coils, but I want to hide both of these under some sleeving.

@gramatton - Haha, thanks a lot man.

@jdbnsn - I'd love to see that, I've never seen it done before either. I thought I'd be the first TBH, but that's fine with me.

@Karbon Killa - I'm going o hunt for it now, hopefully I'll find it.

@DonT-FeaR - Sanity went out the door - along with all my money. hehe.

11-23-2008, 01:19 PM
@ATX soldering - I've seen it before also as a hardcore way to hide cables. This guide shows how to solder without removing the header.


Might I suggest ChipQuik (http://chipquik.com/). It works very well for desoldering. The manufacturer offers free samples to SMT manufacturers; given the hobbyist PR, they may throw some your way.


Then again, after eee pc modding, a big honking atx connector will be a breeze. :)

11-23-2008, 03:17 PM
Thanks for the links Mach, I appreciate that. I don't foresee any soldering issues as I have quite a lot of experience for a hobbiest - and a couple really nice soldering irons, one for surface mount.

I've actually used chip quick before to repair a Plasma TV, fantastic stuff but it sucks when it falls onto your lap because it keeps on burning as it rolls down your leg.

I know Mach knows about it, but I think this is a perfect time to PIMP my eeePC.
*click for slideshow*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/th_jesselang_eeePC_001_low.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/?action=view&current=2a2c1c2e.pbw)

I must note that I modded my first eeePC before it was cool, and there weren't any examples to follow, or pinout diagrams at the time - just me, patience, and a multimeter.

Here (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=148886) is a link to one of my eeePC mods (and my first) - for those of you who haven't seen it before.

As far as I know it's the most heavily modded eeePC out there with 16additions:
USB 32GB Flash Drive (Corsair)
16GB SDHC (SanDisk)
USB 4-port Hub 1 (Logix)
USB 4-port Hub 2 (Logix)
USB 7" Touch Screen 1 (eBay: Kiddshop)
USB ATSC wireless digital TV-Tuner (Artec)
USB Bluetooth Adaptor (Asus)
USB GPS Receiver (Route66)
mini-PCIe Wifi-N card (Intel)
Wifi-N MiMo antenna (x3)
USB Wireless Security AutoLock
USB 10-LED Light Bar 1 for keyboard illumination
USB 10-LED Light Bar 2 for internal "PIMP" lighting (w/ DIP on/off)
All onbard LED's and LED light bars swapped to 5000MCD Amber LED's

11-23-2008, 04:26 PM
i believe the guy that did that jon... his name is markleb here on the forums

11-23-2008, 07:24 PM
i believe the guy that did that jon... his name is markleb here on the forums

You are absolutely correct! That was they guy (markkleb) but unfortunately those images are no longer hosted. I emailed him asking him if he would re-post them so we will see.


11-23-2008, 08:12 PM
Thanks a lot man, I'd love to see this.

11-23-2008, 08:43 PM
We actually had a guy here remove the power connector from the motherboard and solder the wires from the PSU back into the board from the rear. It was amazing and I've never seen it done again. Unfortunately, I cannot remember who it was or what mod it was but if anyone here remembers please post a link.
Hey I know that guy, lol..........


In the next few days I will throw a few picts together and make a small gallery
(thanks JD)

11-23-2008, 08:55 PM
WooHoo! Thanks for dropping in markkleb!

And for the rest of you boys and girls, just wait until you see what this dude can do. I highly recommend checking out his gallery when he posts it.


11-23-2008, 09:25 PM
Very awesome, you've set the bar sir. I can't wait to see the rest of it!
Thank you very much for coming and sharing.

After some solder, a touch of dremeling and some 'cablegami', I'm hoping to hide the wires completely.

11-23-2008, 09:47 PM
@Langer-I've seen that eeePC before. Thought it was amazing then and its still is now. I still don't know how you got all that in there. I've had mine for awhile but all I've done is put some memory in. I'm gonna have to look into modding it soon.

@markkleb-That looks awesom man, wish I was that good with a soldering iron.

+rep for an amazing, crazy soldering job

11-23-2008, 10:01 PM
actually soldering the back side of the mobo isant that hard.

Here are a few tricks..
1-its NEVER too clean (surface or soldering tip) make sure the surface is free of oils (including fingerprints) and any type of coating.

2- dont use a monster soldering iron.I use a 30 watt version with a voltage control and a pointy tip.

3- tin the tip.. clean the tip and apply a bit of solder to it before heating the wire or surface.

4- I like to strip about 1/8" of the insulation off the wire and apply solder to the wire. Than I put a bit of solder on the mobo.

5- MOST IMPORTANT TIP.. work fast here, touch the wire to the spot on the mobo and heat it up for 1 or 2 secs. only. That should be fine if you keep heat near the mobo longer than that heat will fry something. If the tip is dirty or the joint is dirty it will take a LONG time to melt the solder so stop and clean the tip (I do for every joint I make)

6-dont move the wire while it dries (just a few seconds) or it will crystallize (the joint will turn a flat shade of silver) It will be very brittle and not join well.

7- Double/triple check the wires..Soldering a yellow where a black goes is bad.

11-23-2008, 11:24 PM
Here's a very quick and dirty diagram to roughly show my intent with soldering the ATX and 12V lines to the bottom of the mobo.

I had a short run of (1250ft, lol.. minimum manufacturing length) 24conductor 18agage 'PrometheusCU edition' ribbon cable manufactured by ITW Pancon especially for this (and alot fo the other wires) purpose.


11-23-2008, 11:49 PM
After some solder, a touch of dremeling and some 'cablegami', I'm hoping to hide the wires completely.

I am really looking forward to seeing what you come up with. So far your work is spectacular.
(1250' of wire...that should keep you in wiring for quite a while)

11-24-2008, 12:15 AM
Thanks so much man, and right back at you - I'm quite eager to see your results. That one pic showed very promising results.

11-24-2008, 01:37 AM
come on langer do it already :) wow markkleb

The boy 4rm oz
11-25-2008, 01:10 AM
I have seen a similar thing dont with touch pads. I think it may have been markkleb's work lol.

11-25-2008, 01:25 AM
oh rly.... that sounds cool... althought im not sure how that would help :)

11-25-2008, 01:30 AM
Thanks guys!

Quickie update:
After a lot of measuring, scoring, snaping, drilling, and filing I have this:

1 down, 1 to go.

The boy 4rm oz
11-25-2008, 02:03 AM
I made one of them for my wireless LAN card, they look great.