New PC Built, no power to CD drives

[jreffy]

Hey guys, I just put together the build in my sig, trying to get her all fired and up and install my OS. Everything seems to power on and run just fine, except for my 2 slim CD drives. I checked the wiring to all my molex's and pins because I sleeved the cables, and everything is in order. I put the adapter boards on the CD drives and those went on without a problem.

If I can't power the CD drives, I can't install the OS :( Well at least I know my hard drive is blank because I turn her on and nothing happens, haha.

I'll come back and post the actual drives in a minute.

Matsu****a - CW-8122-B
Panasonic - UJ-85J
http://www.slidirect.com/product26-121.html
with this bezel;
http://www.slidirect.com/web/do/pub/sku/view;jsessionid=CF0317055DC98527DE49E504A86CC5CE?c ategoryId=10&id=40
and these adapter boards;
http://www.slidirect.com/web/do/pub/sku/view;jsessionid=E04911766CDD0183D1D717C29E28BCB0?c ategoryId=8&id=38

Just out of curiosity, should I be able to power on those CD drives without plugging in the ribbon cable? (Just so I can pull these drives out and test them on my test-power supply, would make it a lot easier).

[SgtM]

sure.. you don't need the IDE cables plugged in to test the CD drives for power. I do it all the time.

[jreffy]

Re-checked my custom sleeved cables and molex. I even took a drive and plugged it directly into my test PSU's 4 pin power cable. Nothing.


I'm wondering if my converter-cards on the back are bad, or something else just isn't right =/.

[SgtM]

look at the drives themselves. Try them with another PSU, and then try another drive with the new PSU. If you get the same results with the other PSU, and the other drive powers fine off of your new PSU, then it's the drives.

[jreffy]

Ok, here's a run down of what I've attempted so far.

Slim-drives plugged into the system - nothing
Slim-drives plugged into only a test PSU - nothing

Bought a regular DVD drive thinking there was something wrong with the slim-drive converter boards.

Plugged the regular DVD drive into my test PSU only - nothing
Plugged it into my machine and mobo - nothing
Plugged the power into my test PSU, and the IDE cable into my machine - nothing


running out of ideas here guys =/

[AJ@PR]

Can you hook-up your new PSU to the moBo?
Then try the drives?

=\ unsure over here of your troubles mate

[jreffy]

Can you hook-up your new PSU to the moBo?
Then try the drives?

=\ unsure over here of your troubles mate

The PSU in my system is a 550W Silverstone, and that's what's currently plugged into the mobo. My test PSU is just a lame PSU that came with my case, so I only use it as a test PSU because of it's lack of power.

I think today I'm going to open my current PC and try and install that new regular DVD drive inside it, see what happens.

[AJ@PR]

I think today I'm going to open my current PC and try and install that new regular DVD drive inside it, see what happens.
Keep us updated... I'm scratching my head.

Can't you make a test run, by completely installing the lame PSU to your moBo... etc.?

Just wondering. :)

Peace
AJ

[jreffy]

Keep us updated... I'm scratching my head.

Can't you make a test run, by completely installing the lame PSU to your moBo... etc.?

Just wondering. :)

Peace
AJ

I doubt it. It's the PC in my sig, and I think the case PSU was something like 400W or even 350W. I'm going to buy a multimeter today and test my molex connections. My buddy thinks that the CD drive might not be getting enough power.

[ajmilton]

er, you can determine if the drive's bad or not without powering your whole system. just plug a known good PS into the motherboard power and the cd drive, hit the power button, then try to eject the cd drive.
you can even just short 2 of the wires on the PS motherboard power connector, but i don't recall which two offhand.
don't have to plug in fans, HDs, floppies, etc. just the cd drive

[Fear]

What kind of drive are you looking for? I have alot of DVD and CDrewritable drives around here I can test and give ya if you pay shipping.

[jreffy]

What kind of drive are you looking for? I have alot of DVD and CDrewritable drives around here I can test and give ya if you pay shipping.

I just bought a simple 30$ DVD drive to play with.

For the previous poster, are you saying I need to have the IDE cables plugged into the DVD drive in order for it to eject?

Because I do have a "test PSU" that is to say, a PSU with the 3rd and 4th wires shorted out so that the PSU will turn on and off. I've used it to test my watercooling loop and other devices several times.

I cannot get either the slim DVD drives, or the one I just bought to power on either installed into my system, or just plugged into my test PSU.

[ajmilton]

no, if you have the test PSU and the cd drive ain't broken, that should work. IDE doesn't need to be plugged in

sounds like they're both broken if they don't work with the test PSU. or somehow they need more wattage/voltage/whatever than the PSU can supply with no load. in which case they're broken anyways, as far as i'm concerned :P

sounds like you need to start working on RMA stuff and find another brand :P

[jreffy]

no, if you have the test PSU and the cd drive ain't broken, that should work. IDE doesn't need to be plugged in

sounds like they're both broken if they don't work with the test PSU. or somehow they need more wattage/voltage/whatever than the PSU can supply with no load. in which case they're broken anyways, as far as i'm concerned :P

sounds like you need to start working on RMA stuff and find another brand :P

I doubt this is the problem, since I just bought the DVD drive new yesterday. I'm going to plug the new DVD drive into my current (old) PSU and see what happens when I get home today. Also I can check connections with the multimeter.

My guess, that makse sense, is that for some reason the drives aren't getting enough power in my current system, and also with the test PSU.

[jreffy]

CURIOUSER AND CURIOUSER



So my molex coming from the PSU are fine. I tested them all with a multimeter. So for the heck of it I plugged the regular new DVD drive in. Works fine with just the PSU plugged into it. Which it wasn't doing before, how odd. Opens, closes, no problem.

So then I plug it into my rig, and power it up. Nothing, no power. So while the PC is still on, I pull out the IDE cable, suddenly the DVD player is on.

So basically I'm not getting power to the DVD cable when the IDE cable is plugged in, but I DO get power with just the PSU plugged into it.

[AJ@PR]

From here:::
http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/computer/storage/optical/support.html


Support for other OEM drives is available for US customers. Send email to panasonic@bigbytecorp.com with the following information: Drive Model Number
Name/location of the dealer/reseller where the drive was procured
Month/year when the drive was procured
Operating System
Description of the problem

Maybe this helps:::
http://panasonic.co.jp/psec/support/dvdram/lim/eoem/sw9573drvxp.html

:?

[jreffy]

I'll try it out, but I know for sure it's not a driver problem, since I have no drivers and no operating system even installed on this computer yet, hahah.

[Maz]

you said that these were slim drives? like from a notebook?

if so do you have the adapter for the back of the drive to turn it into ide and a 4 pin power connection.

mini-itx has these adapters (http://mini-itx.com/store/?c=5#p2112) and im sorry if you arent using them and tried wiring up your own cable, your screwed. you probably just fried the drives. (happy thoughts)

[jreffy]

you said that these were slim drives? like from a notebook?

if so do you have the adapter for the back of the drive to turn it into ide and a 4 pin power connection.

mini-itx has these adapters (http://mini-itx.com/store/?c=5#p2112) and im sorry if you arent using them and tried wiring up your own cable, your screwed. you probably just fried the drives. (happy thoughts)

Yes, but I'm having this problem with the slim drives, AND a new DVD drive i bought when I had these problems

[jreffy]

Contacted ASUS, described the problem, and he didn't even ask me any questions, he just said, "yeah, that's definitely a motherboard problem, go ahead and fill out and RMA form and we'll take care of it"


So...more delays. But at least it gives me time to work on my case paint-job. Now that it's Christmas time, I'm not expecting a fast turnaround for this mobo =/