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    Cool how to water cool?

    ive been looking into water cooling and it seems cool
    whats the price range and what do parts do you need and what do they do?
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    Default Re: how to water cool?

    At a minimum you need;
    A pump
    A reservoir
    A water block (one each for everything you want to cool starting with the CPU)
    Tubing
    Flow indicator (not absolutely necessary, but a good safety device)
    Treated liquid (at least purified water, but better to use specifically formulated liquid)
    Connectors
    Radiator and fan

    Optional; other water blocks for, GPU, North bridge chip, RAM, HD's, Office chair. Quick disconnect connectors, uv reactive liquid for the cool look!

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    Default Re: how to water cool?

    Quote Originally Posted by Airbozo View Post
    At a minimum you need;
    A pump
    A reservoir
    A water block (one each for everything you want to cool starting with the CPU)
    Tubing
    Flow indicator (not absolutely necessary, but a good safety device)
    Treated liquid (at least purified water, but better to use specifically formulated liquid)
    Connectors
    Radiator and fan

    Optional; other water blocks for, GPU, North bridge chip, RAM, HD's, Office chair. Quick disconnect connectors, uv reactive liquid for the cool look!
    ...and everything inbetween. Such as clamps! You will want some good clamps for sure. Can't have your tubes popping off! ^^

    blah blah blah... Ctrl + V.

    That should set you on the right path for now. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask! ...Because I know you will anyways.

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    Default Re: how to water cool?

    Yes CLAMPS! forgot that most important device to hold the water back...

    The reserator is a nice product if you have room outside your case. It is nice and quiet!

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    The Thermaltake Symphony *Mini* is supposed to be pretty good from what I have read around on the pro review websites. There is a very small difference between the Symphony and the Symphony mini cooling wise. The Zalman externals are pretty good from what I have read as well, most likely better than Thermaltake external kits, I just don't fancy the way they look.

    If you want the best of the best. Build it yourself. DangerDen is a great website for building water kits yourself. ArcticMod.com has some very nice unique water cooling products if you are looking to put in that extra bit o cash for that extra bit o zip zam zow. I've have been told that ArcticMod's hyper web tubing is some pretty top notch stuff.

    This is my Price Guide for buying premade kits. This is all *my* opinion mind you.

    $60-$130 - It looks cool ...thats about it for the most part. Usually lacks "expandability". Which is fine if you are only looking to cool a CPU and/or a GPU at a good Zalman FAN level. Risk of breaking down is moderately high. Read PLENTY of reviews on the product and don't be fooled by those who are easily fooled themselves. I mean by that is "noobs" who think they know what they are talking about but really don't. A decent way to avoid this is by reading reviews that have HIGH (10-30+) "was this review helpful to you?" scores such as on newegg.

    $130-$230 - Cools better than a good air system. Usually has good "expandability" options. Pretty low risk of breaking down. This is the price range that you SHOULD be looking at if want "better than air" cooling but don't want to fork out a bunch of cash.

    230+ - Usually considered to be the "extreme" of the cooling world. If you want the best of the best, this is where you should be in your shopping cart. High expandability, low risk of breaking down, durable material, low chance of disappointment ...and so on. You pay for what you get, when you pay in this price range, well you get what you pay for!

    Water cooling isn't for the "faint of heart", Not everyone can do it. imo. But with a good bit o research, just about anyone can learn and be on their way to a whole new world of cooling.

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    Default Re: how to water cool?

    What ^^ HE ^^ said... (nice writeup SnowFire)

    Only thing I would add is that I found the water cooling install to be medium in complexity, but to actually make it look good was a nasty! dog! in heat!

    One of the best watercooling installs I have seen, the modder used copper pipe, bent precisely where it needed to go. Anyone know the name? link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airbozo View Post
    What ^^ HE ^^ said... (nice writeup SnowFire)
    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Airbozo View Post
    Only thing I would add is that I found the water cooling install to be medium in complexity, but to actually make it look good was a nasty! dog! in heat!
    tru-dat. The install can be a major pain for "new to water cooling" people. That is one thing I like !A LOT! with the Thermaltake Symphony series. ...or any Thermaltake kit for that matter. They are UBER simple to install. It's almost ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airbozo View Post
    One of the best watercooling installs I have seen, the modder used copper pipe, bent precisely where it needed to go. Anyone know the name? link?
    I know what you are talking about, but dangit, I can't remember either! It's here somewhere on the forums, I would say from around a week to a month ago? Maybe a bit longer. But he had an awesome setup. It was like bathroom plumbing, but inside of a computer. lol I, of course, mean that in a good way. ^^

    I bet those copper tubes would act like miniature radiators if you had fans blowing on them?

    That reminds me, you can buy small radiators to go inbetween spots in your tubes. MDCS had some but I don't believe it worked out for her as they, even though are not as big as a true radiator, are still pretty big and she didn't have the room for it. LINK

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    Default Re: how to water cool?

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    One of the best watercooling installs I have seen, the modder used copper pipe, bent precisely where it needed to go. Anyone know the name? link?
    I know what you are talking about, but dangit, I can't remember either! It's here somewhere on the forums, I would say from around two weeks to a month ago? Maybe a bit longer. But he had an awesome setup. It was like bathroom plumbing, but inside of a computer. lol I, of course, mean that in a good way. ^^
    It was last week, but I cant remember either :/

    For a simple WC that cool only the CPU, the reservoir is optional, better, but optional.

    The choice of your WC system depend on your own use:
    Do you want:
    1- A good OC (Big bucks)
    2- Great look (depends)
    3- Just able to say : Hey I'm watercooled (can spend less then 100$)
    4- Complete Silence (big bucks and maybe more)

    I'm still saving money

    Anyone who think a computer is sexy need to #$? and fast

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    Default Re: how to water cool?

    Well keep in mind -- if you spend less than 100$ or so on a WCing setup, it'll have mediocre performance, and that's not good =/

    It isn't always big bucks to silence your setup and not always big bucks to OC it too. I've OC'd my AMD Athlon 64 3200+ S754 Newcastle core from 2.2GHz (220*11) to 2.6GHz (236*11) on air, not to mention I have way too much THC on my CPU. The heat increase was minute, only 1 degree C all around (under load and idle). I think the heat increase might have affected the GPU as well, but even less so.

    And silence, well, the most expensive part will probably be the pump. Silent fans shouldn't be hard to locate for the radiator or whatnot.

    Here's an interesting idea: Ionized air cooling. I know it's been done before, but until recently did I understand how awesome this could be.



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    Default Re: how to water cool?

    What is "Ionized Air Cooling"? I've heard of the Ionic Breeze... is that the same thing? What is it? What does it do, or rather what would it do for a person like one of us?

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