Careers in Computers

[stewart123]

Stewart; Want the sales people to respect you more? You have to make them realize what you do to keep them able to sell. Let the computers crash for several hours and when you save the day, they have a little more respect.

Its not just me, its my whole department. We get quite a bit of respect from people who work under the account executives, but the majority of the sellers look at IT people as people who have no people skill. I would love to show them my value in that way, but I am pretty sure I would lose my job.

[Airbozo]

Stewart; I was not implying that YOU crash the servers, just next time it happens, make sure they know your dept. is fixing it. It probably won't matter anyway as most sales people I have met tend to think of everyone as being below them.

I have been in the argument about who keeps a company alive and it is the chicken and the egg tale all over again (if it weren't for sales people you would have no company, No no, if it weren't for engineers you would have no product to sell, no no, if the computers were not running you would not be able to design products or sell them...). Sales people for the most part are tough to even reason with. In my experience sales people are like politicians; They promise you a bright new world and deliver a dirty cat box.

nil8, I will send along my pastry cream recipe too... Easy stuff. You just can not walk away from it or it WILL burn.

BTW I know the soufflé recipe by heart and can make one blindfolded with one arm tied behind my back (had to make one on short notice for one of my classes. When you get to class they hand you a box of food and you have to make 3, 4 course meals out of what is in the box (plus you can use the regular kitchen stuff), but the meal HAS to be made from the contents of the box.) Kind of like the Iron Chef concept. The instructors were shocked when I brought out perfect cheese soufflés...

[Drum Thumper]

Yes, most if not all IT people have no use for electronics theory now days.

Sadly, this is very true. We modders seem to be a dying breed in that respect, what with our love of LEDs and CCFLs, not to mention other cool things like the blast door!

Thankfully, it is our art (if you will) that is bringing in the new blood, so to speak. Things like the Doom 3 mod and Pedrofilo's crazy assed Alien mod, among others, inspire the rest of us to better ourselves. The sky truly is the limit, and yet there are footprints on the moon.

Its not just me, its my whole department. We get quite a bit of respect from people who work under the account executives, but the majority of the sellers look at IT people as people who have no people skill. I would love to show them my value in that way, but I am pretty sure I would lose my job.

Sales people for the most part are tough to even reason with. In my experience sales people are like politicians; They promise you a bright new world and deliver a dirty cat box.

Oh, the horror stories I can tell regarding sales people. A bunch of uneducated overweight assholes who think the world revolves around them for the most part. Every now and then you'll find a diamond in the rough, and if I have offended you, let me make ammends by stating that you, dear salesperson who mods computers in your spare time, ARE that proverbial Diamond! +Rep to you, whoever you are!

It's these same jerks that force me to say screw the local economy and buy online.