The Canyon That God Built?

[d_stilgar]

I never said that I believed what my roomate thought. I actually agree with you. How do you explain dinosaurs if the earth is only 6000 years old. But as much as we can say that science disproves it, I don't think knowledge can ever be completely solid. An example that has been said before, the earth is flat . . . boy were we wrong.

I personally am not going to limit my thought on what people say can or can't be done. I will never limit myself in that way. And yet, I am also not going to believe complete crap to be true when I'm 99.99% sure it isn't.

That said, I know where I stand in all this and there is no point arguing it any further.

[CanaBalistic]

The 6000 year thing is from the bible. Apparently (according to the great beyond) dinosaur fossils were put there to "test our faith"...

I believe the more scientific definition of 4.54 billion years and also that jesus was put here to test our faith of the scientific.

Glass half empty vs half full.

[Airbozo]

little fyi; Not everyone believed that the world was flat. This was misinformation promulgated by the church. You believe them or... well, die! This is the same church that would put people to death for believing that the solar system did NOT revolve around the earth, in fact it was the churches belief that _everything_ revolved around the earth and the earth was flat to boot.

If it comes out of a religious tome I would tend NOT to take it at face value. I took some religious theory classes many moons ago and was told this by _most_ of my professors (who are Jesuit priests). Most of them did not think the bible was factually correct, rather a "guideline" of events. It is the people that take the bible and other religious tomes as 100% fact that tend to be fanatics...

[CanaBalistic]

If it comes out of a religious tome I would tend NOT to take it at face value. I took some religious theory classes many moons ago and was told this by _most_ of my professors (who are Jesuit priests). Most of them did not think the bible was factually correct, rather a "guideline" of events. It is the people that take the bible and other religious tomes as 100% fact that tend to be fanatics...

The reason the facts are misconstrued is because jesus never had a testament. He left it to james and the other deciples to create the testament's. Which is why we have so many off shutes of christianity. No one has the actual facts. Only the interpritation of the facts by the deciples.

Apparently judas had a testament aswell. I wonder what church destroyed that little tid bit of information. (please dont reply to the last sentence, that is mearly my interpritation)

[Airbozo]

I know you didn't want a reply, but...
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/gospeljudas.html

Yes there is a gospel according to Judas testament, found in 1994 by Russian archaeologists. Not read anything about it, but yes it does exist.

Interpretation is why there are so many off-chutes of ANY religion. You would think that if there was a god and he/she/it wanted us to worship them, there would be no confusion as to HOW to worship them or what religion was correct (Uhm Morman, Morman is the correct answer, sorry Jerry Falwell). You would also think that with the redphone to the creator, that little things like flat earth, planet revolution, witches would have been taken care of a little better by previous pope's and other spiritual leaders. I mean who in their right mind would argue that the Spanish Inquisition was from god and not man?

Man invented God(s) to explain what they could not.
Man invented religion to control other men.

[Zephik]

Whenever I hear the name of Jerry Falwell, I think "mega-church". What a laugh...

Don't mormons like worship seagulls and believe jesus was a cowboy or something? lol don't ask where I get my facts, I just make them up as I go along ...wait, that kind of sounds like religion!

"Man invented God(s) to explain what they could not.
Man invented religion to control other men."

I still believe in the possibility of a higher being or whatever, but I couldn't agree with you more there. especially the second part. Makes me think of early Catholicism.

[d_stilgar]

Don't mormons like worship seagulls and believe jesus was a cowboy or something? lol don't ask where I get my facts, I just make them up as I go along ...wait, that kind of sounds like religion!

Less than two minutes of research . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagull_Monument

[DaveW]

Wait, that's true? That's freakin hilarious!

Which is why we have so many off shutes of christianity

Interpretation is why there are so many off-chutes of ANY religion.

for the record, the word is off-shoots.

-Dave

[Slug Toy]

you know what ive just realized? every thread like this one so far has boiled down to a debate about religion. just once id like to have a discussion about volcanogenic massive sulphide exhalites, or sedimentary processes.

[DaveW]

volcanogenic massive sulphide exhalites, or sedimentary processes.

Yeah...what now? :s

-Dave